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LibraSparkle
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posted September 27, 2005 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone have any good advice on getting rid of acne?

I've never had any trouble with acne until recently. Right around Aunt Flo's visit each month I get 1-3 pimples always in the same places... but they're not like normal pimples, they're more like cysts. There is no head on them... they're not poppable, even if I weren't grossed out by popping zits.

Its almost like they never go away... I just can't see them anymore.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 27, 2005 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah.
I get the same thing, exactly as you described.
I know sometimes, it is more a hormone, therefore internal issue than it is a cleansing/product ritual.
I do all these good things externally for my skin. I know how to treat it. Sometimes knowing theoretically it should work, it still doesn't.
I am interested in others answers as well.
Supplements?
Certain foods?
Hormones?
Thanks for asking this question, LS!!!!

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StarLover33
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posted September 27, 2005 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
You're definitely irritated by something, acne takes place during high stress levels, and also when anger isn't being vented properly. All I can say is, don't allow it to go away on its own, it won't, you need to buy a cream. Most likely you should use ProActive Solution.

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Aphrodite
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posted September 27, 2005 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
I get those too! And they hurt! Ouch

I tried using an all natural Zip Zapper (from www.sumbody.com) and it bleached the area white. The zit was smaller, but still there. Haven't used that stuff since.

Hmm, I've been using ice to temporarily reduce the swelling, along with getting regular facials every 6 -8 weeks.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 27, 2005 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I know hydrocortizone does work.
Glycolic acid, benzoil peroxide. The typical anti acne formulas.
For scarring or redness, you can try hydroquinone at a 4% formulation, preferably with glycolic at 10% and sunscreen... you can get it over the counter, ask your pharmacist.
But.. I am curious about the cause and how to eradicate it rather than treat it, you know?
They suck and are so predictable.

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 27, 2005 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message

I smurfin' hate predictable zits!

Thanks for the input so far...

I'm really interested in the cause and how to eradicate them too.

I should probably break down and buy some kind of cream.

I think I'll hold off a little longer and see what comes of this string... and what Trillian has to say.

**Wanders off to find out what the heck hydroquinone is**

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let ther b light
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posted September 27, 2005 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hey libra sparkle
i agree with star lover.......the anger and stress part.
i have been blessed with clear complexion but on the rare occassions that i do get breakouts, its because of stress.
the best way to get clear complexion is to have loads of water and fruits because it cleans your entire system, and removes all the toxins. also a regular routine of exercise.....somethin which really makes you sweat, like jogging or aerobics will really help. the exercise bit will also help ease out your stress/ tension/ anger if any.
take care
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26taurus
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posted September 27, 2005 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hey what a coincidence, LS. I'm having the same problem. I had perfect skin all my life and recently it has been flaring up, especially around that time of the month. Sooooo annoying. I decided to take action this week and went to my local holistic health store and read up on what natural remedies to take to help it.

The book Prescription for Nutritional Healing is a great book that I've been meaning to pick up for years. In it, I learned that zinc is very important for healthy skin. Acne is often related to a zinc deficiency.

"Because long term use of zinc inhibits copper absorbtion, it should be taken along with that mineral....In a seperate study, zinc performed as well as the standard acne antibiotic tetracycline."
Vitamin A is important too, but dangerous in high doses. I also picked up some Vitrol(sp?). An herbal supplement that is supposed to help with pms and balancing hormones. A study showed it cleared up people's acne after ten days of use.

I also got a bottle of Akne*Zyme from EnzymaticTherapy (would copy/paste the link, but I cant do that on this computer). It has all of the essencial vitamins and minerals that promote skin health in it. Just started using it so I cant say if it works, but right now my skin is clear which may be from taking the zinc...? You can also get topical zinc creams that may help. I prefer to try and fight the battle from within, rather than putting all kinds of cream and lotions on my face, because that really is where most skin problems stem from, within.

The guy at the store also mentioned something about taking essencial fatty acids, I believe. Another great thing to try is tea tree oil. Also lavender oil is supposed to be great for your skin. I picked up a product called Desert Essence Blemish Touch Stick which is a special formulation of 11 essencial oils to promote clear, healthy looking skin. Tea tree oil is a natural antiseptic and much better for your skin than most of the products out there that contain peroxide and other unnatural ingredients.

Well, I hope that helps. You can find these product on-line or most likely at your local natural health store. Let me know how it goes. And I'll keep you updated too.

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26taurus
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posted September 27, 2005 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and the zinc you want to take must be 'Opti-zinc'. That's what the health food store guy told me. That it must say 'Opti'. The brand I got was "Now" Opti-zinc. Just an FYI.

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SunShyne
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posted September 27, 2005 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunShyne     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya peeps,

A combination of Zinc and Vit C is supposed to do the trick within 3 or 4 weeks - Zinc restores the acid-lkali balance in the body and Vit C strtengthens your immune system to the acne-causing bacteria.

Louise L. Hay says Acne is caused by a feeling of unacceptability / pimples are outbursts of anger, and the affirmation to put these right are 'I calm my thoughts' and 'I am a Divine expression of life. I love myself.'


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26taurus
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posted September 27, 2005 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi SunShyne! Yep, that sounds right!

And I read that - what Louise Hay said awhile back. Interesting eh?

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pixelpixie
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posted September 27, 2005 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Roc has a line of skincare products at a good acidic pH, with copper and zinc in it.. it is an excellent cleanser. They also carry medicated toner/treatment lotion.
It's called Purifa-C
See though? External.
It clarifies the skin.
Then there is always my fave.. Neo Strata.
AMAZING!!!!!!!! *green banded

Librasparkle *smurfing* giggle.

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 27, 2005 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Awesome! Thanks so much, 26!!

I'll head to Wild Oats tomorrow after work.

So... the Opti-Zinc... Will I find something that is a zinc/copper combo, or will I have to pick up the copper separately?

Oh... I'm excited now. This is just what I was looking for.

I'm a big fan of fighting things from the inside too.

Thanks so much! You're smurfin' awesome!

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26taurus
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posted September 28, 2005 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Great! Glad to help.
K, the guy didnt go into why it must be 'opti' zinc - I just believed him. But I've just done a little research and check this out. It explains why and goes into the copper thing. Very interesting and yes!- exciting! To be able to take care of it from within and have naturally clear skin without having to spend a fortune on products, and at the same time, nourishing your body by giving it something it needs anyway. Getting down to the root of the problem. Anyway, read this: (BTW, there are many brands of 'opti' [monomethioninezinc]. I'm sure Wild Oats will have at least one.)
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"Zinc Acne Treatment WORKS...
but ONLY when combined with a KEY missing zinc acne treatment co-factor

You've heard for years that zinc is a very important mineral for acne sufferers.
Several studies confirm that zinc dramatically improves acne symptoms. Some studies even suggest that zinc acne treatment is more effective then the drug tetracycline.

Yet other studies seem to suggest zinc does nothing for acne.

What's the real scoop?

Well my friend, listen closely because I'm about to clear up the zinc acne mystery for you.

After reading this report you will know why zinc acne treatment is SO effective for acne symptoms sometimes and why it doesn't work other times.

And you'll have the KEY missing piece to the zinc acne treatment puzzle. You'll know exactly how to get CONSISTENT and DRAMATIC results with zinc acne treatment.

Pay attention, because zinc is one of the natural acne treatments you definitely should look into.

What is zinc?
Zinc is a mineral found naturally in foods. It's crucial for so many functions in your system.

In fact zinc plays a key role in over 300 enzymatic reactions in your body. It also is crucial for your immune system. Without optimal levels of zinc in your system white blood cell count and T-killer cell count (immune system stuff) drastically drops...hampering your immune system.

This is why zinc has proven again and again to lessen the severity and duration of colds.

But what does zinc have to do with acne?

The zinc acne relationship
As explained in the special report, The TRUE Cause of Acne acne is caused by hormonal imbalance combined with congesting blood toxins.

Well my friend, it turns out zinc plays a very KEY role in hormonal balance. Zinc IN CONJUNCTION with a few other key nutrients helps to balance out hormonal production.

The end effect of the hormonal balancing of zinc acne treatment is that if USED properly, and if used with these other key nutrients zinc acne treatment will actually NORMALIZE your skins oil production.

In addition to that, it will help your body kill off any over growths of acne bacteria. But in all my experience with it that is the least important aspect for acne sufferers.

Zinc inhibitors
But that's not the whole story...

It turns out there are some substances that will drastically impair the action of zinc in your system. And some actually "deactivate" zinc in your system.

If these substances are in your system then all the zinc acne treatment in the world will do nothing for your acne.

This is one of the major reasons so many of the zinc acne treatment studies showed such a dramatic improvement for acne symptoms in one study, yet showed NO improvement in other studies.

It's because the zinc acne treatment researchers didn't understand that zinc is working IN CONJUNCTION with other key nutrients, and they didn't understand that zinc inhibitors were blocking the zinc acne treatment from working.

And believe me...it took me years to figure it out myself. Zinc acne treatment worked SO WELL sometimes yet not at all other times. It wasn't until years later that I was able to piece together this mystery.

How to use zinc acne treatment effectively
Well first remember, that zinc does not act independently. Zinc will only be effective at normalizing hormone production and normalizing skin oil if used in conjunction with the zinc co-factors explained in the program, Your LAST Acne Solution.

In addition to that, you need to be aware of zinc inhibitors and avoid them.

Next, you need to ingest OPTIMAL levels of zinc in your system.

Zinc is found in foods such as egg yolks, fish, legumes, soy lecithin, sunflower seeds, and whole grains.

You should always try to get your nutrition from foods, but here's the rub...

Zinc is a mineral (not a vitamin). And foods will only have as much zinc in them as they soil they were grown in had.

No zinc in the soil...no zinc in the food.
And conventional farming methods use fertilizers that do NOT contain zinc. As a result most foods have little to no zinc.

The same goes for animal food sources of zinc. The resultant food will only have as much zinc as the diet of the animal had.

It's pretty hard to get it from your diet alone these days. It's a very common deficiency.

Since it's such a key mineral for acne sufferers, and pretty inexpensive, this is definitely one of the minerals I would suggest you consider supplementing with.

I've researched and experimented with zinc acne treatment to death. And I can tell you from all my research and experimentation that there are only 2 forms of zinc that consistently work for zinc acne treatment...EVERY other form of supplemental zinc did not work accept these 2 forms...

What are they?

Zinc gluconate and Zinc Monomethionine (otherwise known as Opti-Zinc).

And of the 2 I strongly favor Opti-Zinc (Zinc Monomethionine). Don't waste your time with any other form of zinc.

L-Opti Zinc by NSI
proven best for zinc acne treatment

How to use Opti-Zinc for zinc acne treatment
If you read all the studies on zinc acne treatment, generally they were using in the range of 30-100 mg a day.

And it is often suggested that zinc should not be taken in excess of 100 mg a day.

But here's the twist on that...

Copper is a competing mineral for zinc. Excess copper hinders the action of zinc in your system.

And with the widespread use of copper piping and birth control pills (very high in copper), copper toxicity has become more and more common.

If you have high levels of copper in your system then you will need to take zinc in as high as 300 mg a day for before you will get results with zinc acne treatment.

If you do not have excess copper in your system then 50-100 mg a day will work like a charm if used in conjunction with the zinc co-factors explained in the program, Your LAST Acne Solution.

How do you know if you have a copper toxicity?

Good question.

If you take birth control pills then you are at a very high risk. If you drink tap water from copper pipes that is not filtered or purified in some way then you're at a considerable risk.

If you have a Caucasian blood line and your nipples are brown (not pink) then you have a SEVERE copper toxicity.

In addition to that, someone skilled in a muscle testing procedure known as applied kinesiology can quickly test you for a copper toxicity non-evasively. It's a simple procedure you can learn your self with a little practice.

Zinc acne treatment effective, yet not enough to cure acne

While zinc is a very KEY mineral for normalizing hormone production realize that hormones are one half the acne puzzle...congesting blood and lymph toxins are the other half, and zinc doesn't do anything to fix that.

So you need to use zinc acne treatment as part of a more comprehensive program to balance your hormones and purify your blood. Checkout the FREE Acne Cure E-Tutorial to discover how." http://www.natural-acne-treatments.com/zinc-acne.html
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The brand I got comes in 30mg doses and I am taking two a day. Could take three I guess, but I dont want to over do it and my acne is not severe - plus I'm taking the Akne*Zyme, which also has 30mgs of zinc in it. (dont take over 100 mgs)

Hope you find some and it helps. I spent a fortune in that store and there are still a few other things I want to go back and get! :O
Hydrochloric Acid is one. Supposed to be great for your skin. But that's a whole other story.

Good luck.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 28, 2005 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmmmm..
I noted a line by Roc, saying it had copper and zinc in it.. which seems to be contrary to this study.
I know it has something like magnesium as well.. I will look into it tonight at work... read up on it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I am almost positive it had both copper and zinc to clarify the skin.
But mine is simply external cleansing/treatment. which definately helps, but within is better of course.

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posted September 28, 2005 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I get that deep, under the surface acne sometimes too. I can't stand it, and if I mess with it too much I'll be quite blatantly blochy. A guy I used to work with whose mother was ... I think she may have been a beautician of some sort, but I also remember a conversation we had about anti-perspirant being bad for you, so perhaps she was into holistic things as well (this is San Francisco area California) (or maybe she was just current).

This doesn't prevent the root cause, but he suggested that when I get those that I put a very hot washcloth on the affected area. It brings the problem to the surface of the face, and helps you get over it faster. I don't often do that, but it DOES seem to work. I don't want to bother with sitting around with a hot washcloth on, so I just keep the spot under the shower rays a bit longer while showering.

My mom's always had adult acne, and I seem to have it as well, just not as bad. I don't think I've ever seen my dad with even a trace of acne.

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posted September 28, 2005 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
It seems like I get one every cycle. Have you read about the ZENO? It wouldn't bother me but Im very fair skinned and I hate the red spot so..... i bought myself a ZENO. IT does seem to work. Go to myzeno.com and read about it. It was 225.00 dollars but worth every penny. If i feel the slightest inflammation coming on i use it and then after the 2nd treatment it is no longer inflammed and then it just goes thru it's own process and goes away.

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26taurus
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posted October 04, 2005 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
BTW, the zinc I take also has 300mcgs of Copper in it.

And when I said, 'Vitrol', I meant Vitex. ....dont even know what Vitrol is. lol Close enough.

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posted October 04, 2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cosmic Climber     Edit/Delete Message
One of my girlfriends recently picked up a book about healthy skin and aging. Sadly off the top of my head i cant seem to recall the name. She had terrible adult acne ever since giving birth to her first child. She has tried many different things. But upon following the guidelines outlined in this book she noticed a major improvement, as have i. It suggests that you cut out all inflamatory food from your diet. Its lists both anti-inflammatory and inflammatory foods. I am amazed at her progress in a very short period of two weeks. You might want to search the net for the inflammatories and anti-inflammatories.

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lovelyelle
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posted October 04, 2005 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyelle     Edit/Delete Message
I think I might know what book you are talking about. Was it by Dr. Perricone? I remember browsing through that book. I don't remember all the foods, but I remember he said that dairies and breads are inflammatory. Some fruits are too, like mango and banana, bc of something having to do with sugar? The non-inflammatory foods were pomegranate, broccoli, and green tea was also recommended. That is all I can remember. I'm motivated to find and read the list again now.

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posted October 05, 2005 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cosmic Climber     Edit/Delete Message
lovelyelle - YES!!! What a great memory you've got. It was Dr. Perricone. There's many books out there by the doc. Even though i coudn't remember the title, i can recall the cover of the book. Here's the link from amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060934360/qid=1128528564/sr=8-6/ref=pd_bbs_6/002-3179802-4519248?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 , sadly you can not look inside this book, like you can with so many others.

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posted October 06, 2005 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I feel that helping the bod detoxify as naturally as possible is the best way to start with clear skin. I used to have frequent breakouts, but since I've changed my diet, it's rare my face breaks out any more. (Unless I'm on a red licorice or Hot Tamale binge) Try eating as many fruits and vegetables every day, grains (oatmeal) and drink plenty of water, which helps a lot just on its own. Cut out complex sugars. A friend of mine also suggested adding a tablespoon or so of fresh squeezed lemon to a large glass of water helps clear the skin too. I know around your period we're either craving sugar or salty foods (if you're like me, BOTH), but cut back the week before it's due and see if you notice a difference. Is it also possible you're eating foods that you're allergic to? (for some it's tomatoes). Try an elimination diet (I had to do this when I had Chronic Urticaria (hives) and couldn't find the cause) and cut out foods that could be the culprit...it's always a good place to start, and by letting your body do what it does best on it's own, which is heal, you can really help it along by eating the best, purest form of food possible, minus the preservatives.


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lovelyelle
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posted October 06, 2005 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyelle     Edit/Delete Message
good advice blue topaz!

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posted October 06, 2005 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk     Edit/Delete Message
I am not sure, if someone mentioned this already...I had seen that people had great success with a product named with "Proactive" or "Pro Active". It has natural ingredience and has some formula for night and day, because skin needs different care at day and night.
Personally I used to apply "Acne mycine", that is an antibiotic cream, that worked fine for me some years, ago. If nothing helps...then it might be time for this Proactive, the combination of ingredience seems to work wonders on skin that has been "given up", so far, so it seems to be worth a try, I wish you *Good Luck*!!

...oh, I just saw, Pro Active got recommended, already...but the infomercial on TV informs, it is really a good product. I do not have any problems with it any more, my daily skin care is cleaning with some not to "sharp" lotion and then using pure Aloe Vera Gel and because I have dry skin, then I am adding pure Aloe Vera cream from Canary Aloe...Aloe Vera has many many enzymes that makes skin soft and it looks as if my skin got "lifted", because the skin absorbs the water and can *keep* it inside, so it does not become dry again.

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