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angel_of_hope
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posted September 22, 2006 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
I'm looking for some information or suggestions or guidance for a whole body detox. I feel i am in need of one. I've searched around the net and theres so much info out there, from diets to herbal programs lasting anywhere from a day to 30 day detox programs. I'm not very framiliar with detox's either ... so im kinda dumbfounded when i search regarding them.

I'm not very good at the diet thing. But would be willing to try the herbal route. Anyone have any experiences? Can offer any advice? It would be greatly appreciated.

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trillian
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posted September 22, 2006 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Dr. Schulze has a fabulous 30 day detox.
www.herbdoc.com

I've used his products and his wisdom for many years.

Any detox worth its salt will include nothing but raw (preferably organic) fruits and veggies. Maybe a few raw nuts.

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Kim Rogers
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posted September 22, 2006 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with Trillian on this one. When it comes to detoxing - Doc Schultze is the man.

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angel_of_hope
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posted September 25, 2006 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ladies ... i'll trot on over and take a look.

ang-

Edit: Whew! I took a look and the price was enough to make me click the back button. I don't have that kinda money to spend. I just blew that amount at the doctors and am awaiting lab tests. I know when it comes to health money shouldnt be an issue, but for me, right now, it is.

Anyone have any experiences with other products out there?

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angel_of_hope
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posted September 25, 2006 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
trillian, quesiton for ya? Sometime ago you were going to dig up a tincture recipie for me regarding hormone balancing or maybe it was overall womens health ... have you come across that? Is there a way for you to scan it and email it to me?

Thanks,
Ang-

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angel_of_hope
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posted September 25, 2006 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
I'm still thinking theres other things going on with me ... but i heard from my doc and what it boils down to is i am lactose intolerant. I love my dairy and now i have to do a 1wk test with no dairy. I'm gonna be lost for a week without my dairy. .... my whole family if from Wisconsin so i cant help but love cheese ... Wish my luck and send me lots of positive energy. My mornings wont be the same with out my creamer and coffee.

Anywho, i am still interested in what anyone has to say or offer regarding detoxing? And Trillian if you can find that tincture and send it my way that would be greatly appreciated.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 26, 2006 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I hope you guys are right, and I'll try to remember to write back ..especially if it works well. I'm gonna try the Intestinal Formula #1 by itself.

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trillian
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posted September 27, 2006 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Angel, you can email me at trillian@linda-goodman.com


More soon.

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Kim Rogers
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posted September 29, 2006 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Angel,

When it comes to lactose intollerance, yellow cheese, buttermilk & yogurt have the lactose already broken down. Some of the white cheeses still have some lactose. If it tastes sweet it has a higher content. You can get enzyme pills or buy the lactose reduced milk.

I find I can tollerate a small amount of lactose. I love my cheese & yogurt, so I don't have a problem with those.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 29, 2006 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I got my Dr. Schulze stuff today.

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trillian
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posted September 29, 2006 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Intestinal formula #1 is awesome! You will feel so clean from the inside...

Angel, I haven't had time, but will email you the formula this weekend.

Now, for detoxing. Yup, it's a little pricey, but worth it. I did the entire 30 days once, and really want to do it again

Without the funds, you can still detox but doing raw fruits and veggies for the 30 days, perhaps with a few nuts thrown in. Some people like to do the lemonade detox, but I can't stand it. I need food! But the lemonade as a supplement to a veggie detox could be great. The lemonade detox is called The Master Cleanse, I believe, and a simple google search should yield you more information. But I warn you: it's just lemonade (fresh of course) with a little cayenne and maple syrup for days and weeks.

If you decide to do a raw fruits and veggies kind of thing, could you afford to use the Dr. Schulze intestinal formula #1? It's great at cleaning out the colon and getting things really moving. His intestinal #2 is designed to grab toxins and pull them from your body.

In good health...

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Kim Rogers
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posted September 29, 2006 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Me & my dad always called the intestinal #2 "The Black Drink" it has charcoal in it. It doesn't taste bad, in fact, it doesn't have much flavor at all. We just chugged it down. My mom had a hard time getting past the color & the gritty texture.

In fact, as soon as I get moved into my new place, I will do a cleanse. New home - New me.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 29, 2006 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I tried it for the first time last night, and within 3.5 hours it proved itself to be working. I was and am tremendously impressed. I think this stuff is going to do a lot of good for me.

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and
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posted September 30, 2006 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for and     Edit/Delete Message
60-80 bucks? geezus! is there a cheaper substitute? im all curious now...

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Anita41
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posted October 01, 2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anita41     Edit/Delete Message
Water water and more water
It really makes your system start moving faster, you can see that with toiletvisits
To use this or that cure, Im not so sure about it, when thinking about that our bodies are mostly water.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 06, 2006 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
And,

You can get buy a whole program for 60-80, but you can get the components individually I'm pretty sure.

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PhoenixFlight
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posted October 16, 2006 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFlight     Edit/Delete Message
Doc Schulze tells you where to get many of the remedies he uses.
www.pacificbotanicals.com

You can get most all of the ingredients for Super Food & mix it yourself. The same goes for intestinal formula #2. I would guess you can get #1, but since they are in capules - why bother?

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Azalaksh
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posted October 17, 2006 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
angel ~

I feel your pain -- I'm in Minnesota and I love my cheese too!! But dairy aggravates my psoriasis. I eat cheese sparingly, but feed my need with soymilk. I just heard there's even a soy ice cream!!

Good luck,
Zala

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starryeyes
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posted October 17, 2006 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starryeyes     Edit/Delete Message
I've tried the Master Cleanse. What I still do is just add alittle lemon juice to all the water I drink, that helps alot with cravings and then another good helper this time of year is eating apples and drinking fresh apple juice, we just went to an apple festival afew weeks ago, mmmmmMMM! Good Luck!

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PhoenixFlight
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posted October 18, 2006 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFlight     Edit/Delete Message
I am concerned about anyone who uses a lot of soy. It was at the time, when I replaced milk with Silk, that my thyroid went low.

CAUTION - Soy is one of the foods that can, in excess, contribute to hypothyroidism. So try to use sparingly.

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trillian
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posted October 18, 2006 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Ditto.

Soy is not a health food. It's a good advertising campaign.

Unless-- you use fermented soy products, like soy sauce and miso. Those are perfectly fine.

And as soon as you start making soy into hot dogs, burgers, etc., that's where the real trouble begins, with protein isolates. No one should be eating that cr*p.

Please, if you're eating a lot of soy, do the research. There is a lot available on www.mercola.com, or on the Westin Price website. There is also a very valuable book called "Politically Inncorrect Nutrition."

Let's face it, processed food of any sort is not nutritionally sound, and has an adverse affect on our health.

It's not easy to change our eating habits. But as we educate ourselves, and start eating better foods, it's almost like the proverbial light bulb. I find that if I eat more than one or two consecutive meals that contain junk/processed food, I feel miserable, tired and sluggish.

OK, stepping off soap box...'cause I still love all natural made in olive oil potato chips. And 85% dark chocolate, even though it contains sugar. And an occassional coffee or slice of pizza.

By the way, for those who find they have tolerance problems with milk/dairy, you would probably do well with orgainic, raw milk/cheese, which is usually available at health food stores. Your problems don't usually come from the milk per se, but from the loads of antibiotics given to the cows to keep their compromised immune systems working, which became compromised from feeding them things cows shouldn't eat but it's cheaper, and from the paturizing process, and from the additional antibiotics put into the milk after it's been removed from the cows. I'm not advocating the consumption of milk/dairy. We'd all be better without it. After all, milk is meant to make baby cows grow fat. And by the way, skim milk is the worst...

Ah well...

In good health...

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and
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posted October 18, 2006 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for and     Edit/Delete Message
whats wrong with skim milk?

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trillian
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posted October 19, 2006 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Skim milk is made from rancid, non-fat dried milk.

I've taken the liberty of putting in bold script the information in this article specifically about skim milk, but the whole thing is worth a read. It's so important, IMO, that we make the best and wisest choices for our bodies, within our means. (I'm not perfect in my choices, but I aspire to be )
http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm


(note)You can read more informative articles about milk studies on the Weston Price website.

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The path that transforms healthy milk products into allergens and carcinogens begins with modern feeding methods that substitute high-protein, soy-based feeds for fresh green grass and breeding methods to produce cows with abnormally large pituitary glands so that they produce three times more milk than the old fashioned scrub cow. These cows need antibiotics to keep them well.

Their milk is then pasteurized so that all valuable enzymes are destroyed (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium).

Literally dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process. Without them, milk is very difficult to digest. The human pancreas is not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other diseases.

The butterfat of commercial milk is homogenized, subjecting it to rancidity. Even worse, butterfat may be removed altogether. Skim milk is sold as a health food, but the truth is that butter-fat is in milk for a reason.

Without it the body cannot absorb and utilize the vitamins and minerals in the water fraction of the milk. Along with valuable trace minerals and short chain fatty acids, butterfat is America's best source of preformed vitamin A.

Synthetic vitamin D, known to be toxic to the liver, is added to replace the natural vitamin D complex in butterfat. Butterfat also contains re-arranged acids which have strong anti-carcinogenic properties.

Non-fat dried milk is added to 1% and 2% milk. Unlike the cholesterol in fresh milk, which plays a variety of health promoting roles, the cholesterol in non-fat dried milk is oxidized and it is this rancid cholesterol that promotes heart disease.

Like all spray dried products, non-fat dried milk has a high nitrite content. Non-fat dried milk and sweetened condensed milk are the principle dairy products in third world countries; use of ultra high temperature pasteurized milk is widespread in Europe.

Other Factors Regarding Milk

Milk and refined sugar make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country. That may seem like an overly harsh statement, but when one examines the evidence, this is a reasonable conclusion.

The recent approval by the FDA of the use of BGH (Bovine Growth Hormone) by dairy farmers to increase their milk production only worsens the already sad picture.

BGH causes an increase in an insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) in the milk of treated cows. IGF-1 survives milk pasteurization and human intestinal digestion. It can be directly absorbed into the human bloodstream, particularly in infants.

It is highly likely that IGF-1 promotes the transformation of human breast cells to cancerous forms. IGF-1 is also a growth factor for already cancerous breast and colon cancer cells, promoting their progression and invasiveness.

It is also possible for us to absorb the BGH directly from the milk. This will cause further IGF-1 production by our own cells.

BGH will also decrease the body fat of cows. Unfortunately, the body fat of cows is already contaminated with a wide range of carcinogens, pesticides, dioxin, and antibiotic residues. When the cows have less body fat, these toxic substances are then transported into the cows' milk.

BGH also causes the cows to have an increase in breast infections for which they must receive additional antibiotics.

Prior to BGH, 38%of milk sampled nationally was already contaminated by illegal residues of antibiotics and animal drugs. This will only increase with the use of BGH. One can only wonder what the long term complications will be for drinking milk that has a 50% chance it is contaminated with antibiotics.

There is also a problem with a protein enzyme called xanthine oxidase which is in cow's milk. Normally, proteins are broken down once you digest them.

However, when milk is homogenized, small fat globules surround the xanthine oxidase and it is absorbed intact into your blood stream. There is some very compelling research demonstrating clear associations with this absorbed enzyme and increased risks of heart disease.

Ear specialists frequently insert tubes into the ear drums of infants to treat recurrent ear infections. It has replaced the previously popular tonsillectomy to become the number one surgery in the country.

Unfortunately, most of these specialists don't realize that over 50% of these children will improve and have no further ear infections if they just stop drinking their milk.

This is a real tragedy. Not only is the $3,000 spent on the surgery wasted, but there are some recent articles supporting the likelihood that most children who have this procedure will have long term hearing losses.

It is my strong recommendation that you discontinue your milk products. If you find this difficult, I would start for several weeks only, and reevaluate how you feel at that time.

This would include ALL dairy, including skim milk and Lact-Aid milk, cheese, yogurt, and ice cream. If you feel better after several weeks you can attempt to rotate small amounts of one form of milk every four days.

You probably are wondering what will happen to your bones and teeth if you stop milk. The majority of the world's population takes in less than half the calcium we are told we need and yet they have strong bones and healthy teeth.

Cows' milk is rich in phosphorous which can combine with calcium -- and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk. The milk protein also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys.

This is also true when you eat large amount of meat and poultry products. Vegetarians will need about 50% less calcium than meat eaters because they lose much less calcium in their urine.

It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables (where do you think the cow gets their's from?). The darker the better. Cooked collard greens and kale are especially good. If you or your child is unable to take in large amounts of green vegetables, you might want to supplement with calcium.

If you can swallow pills, we have an excellent, inexpensive source called Calcium Citrate, which has a number of other minerals which your body requires to build up maximally healthy bone.

It is much better than a simple calcium tablet. You can take about 1,000 mg a day. For those who already suffer from osteoporosis, the best calcium supplement is microcrystalline hydroxyapatite.

It is also important that you take vitamin D in the winter months from November to March. Normally your skin converts sunshine to vitamin D, but the sunshine levels in the winter are very low unless you visit Florida or Mexico type areas.

Most people obtain their vitamin D from milk in the winter; so if you stop it, please make sure you are taking calcium with vitamin D or a multi vitamin with vitamin D to prevent bone thinning.

Most people are not aware that the milk of most mammals varies considerably in its composition. For example, the milk of goats, elephants, cows, camels, wolves, and walruses show marked differences, in their content of fats, protein, sugar, and minerals. Each was designed to provide optimum nutrition to the young of the respective species. Each is different from human milk.

In general, most animals are exclusively breast-fed until they have tripled their birth weight, which in human infants occurs around the age of one year. In no mammalian species, except for the human (and domestic cat) is milk consumption continued after the weaning period. Calves thrive on cow milk. Cow's milk is designed for calves.

Cow's milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne.

It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.

Hopefully, you will reconsider your position on using milk as a form of nourishment. Small amounts of milk or milk products taken infrequently, will likely cause little or no problems for most people.

However, the American Dairy Board has done a very effective job of marketing this product. Most people believe they need to consume large, daily quantities of milk to achieve good health. NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Public health officials and the National Dairy Council have worked together in this country to make it very difficult to obtain wholesome, fresh, raw dairy products. Nevertheless, they can be found with a little effort. In some states, you can buy raw milk directly from farmers.

Whole, pasteurized, non-homogenized milk from cows raised on organic feed is now available in many gourmet shops and health food stores. It can be cultured to restore enzyme content, at least partially. Cultured buttermilk is often more easily digested than regular milk; it is an excellent product to use in baking.

Many shops now carry whole cream that is merely pasteurized (not ultra pasteurized like most commercial cream); diluted with water, it is delicious on cereal and a good substitute for those allergic to milk.

Traditionally made creme fraiche (European style sour cream), it also has a high enzyme content.




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