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Topic: Trying to Live Again
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EstyinTX
Knowflake Posts: 39
From: Arlington, Texas
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 02, 2008 02:50 AM
 
Ok, so I don't eat beef or pork. Cooked a turkey for Thanksgiving and just could not sit down and eat it. I only eat turkey twice a year, Thanksgiving and Christmas so I thought why kill that poor turkey? I know, it's an easy out but one more animal/bird saved. So that leaves me chicken and fish. I've never really been a fish eater so here is future: I've now narrowed it down to killing only one thing, a chicken!BTW, I threw out all my leather shoes, belts, etc. I shop at Payless for crappy shoes. THey stink. LOL! Pleather is my new life, except my old nylon rubber who knows what else sneakers!!! Five Dooney Burke Handbags, into the trash YES!!! IP: Logged |
zenwarner
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: tx, usa
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted December 02, 2008 03:25 AM
I have also become increasingly more and more disgusted with meat of any kind. Even chicken grosses me out lately. Im not sure why.
I do like fish though. So that is my only meat source now. IP: Logged |
vivid_child
Knowflake Posts: 74
From: UK
Registered: Nov 2008
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posted December 02, 2008 04:31 PM
I seem to be making a slow transition to a vegan lifestyle. Give one thing up per year it seems! This year was cosmetics... I will now only purchase cruelty-free cosmetics. Afterall, killing animals for fashion is far worse than killing them to eat :/ I stopped buying leather a couple of years ago. I only owned a couple of items anyway. Unless the energy is causing you unrest I wouldn't throw anything away... the damage is already done and discarding these things just adds to the already vast landfill.Seeing people giving up animal products makes me happy  ------------------
"The pioneers of a warless world are the youth who refuse military service." -Albert Einstein IP: Logged |
unconscious honey
Knowflake Posts: 52
From: St. Louis
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted December 02, 2008 10:06 PM
ETX-Heyyy! Is it too late to dig those bags out? For Goodwill, of course.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9458
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 05, 2008 03:02 PM
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Heart--Shaped Cross
Knowflake Posts: 9458
From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 15, 2008 05:50 AM
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Lucia23
Knowflake Posts: 600
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted January 04, 2009 10:12 AM
I was just thinking about this issue this morning.I think what's most important is for me to think about where all of my food comes from. (I'm not an "official" vegetarian, because when I travel or go to people's homes I eat what they serve me...it's especially an issue in countries where food is a luxury and feeding a guest is an honor. But I don't buy or cook meat myself.) For example,I'd rather eat fresh milk from a happy, grass-fed cow on a small, organic, family-run farm than soy milk made with beans and oil (not to mention packaging) that has been mass-produced by exploitative corporations, who do not pay their workers a fair wage. I think it's important to keep in mind that some food production harms human workers. Also, for animals AND humans, torture can be worse than death. I think it's important to find out exactly how my food was produced to try to keep from supporting any kind of torture or exploitation. I think it's the same for other products. There's nothing noble about buying clothes made in sweatshops. IP: Logged |
bunnies
Knowflake Posts: 664
From: U.K
Registered: Mar 2007
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posted January 04, 2009 02:37 PM
I agree about sweatshops BUT there was a fascinating docu on British tv called "Blood Sweat and T shirts" and basically it took four Brits to work in India starting at the upper class clothing factories and then working their way down to the lowest of the low sweatshops. Illuminating.
And a lot of these factories use illegal child labour.
However they found one twelve yr old boy working in a factory threading beads (he desperately tried to hide) and arranged for him to be sent back to his village (he did not want to go)
But as the factory owner said, it was his family had sent him from the village because they couldn't afford to feed him and as soon as he arrived back he was sent back to the big city, nows sans a job and now prey to even more unscrupulous employers.
It's a Catch 22.
If the clothes prices go up, we buy less, there's less work for them, then they starve.
If we buy lots of cheap clothes, they have work but the conditions are bad.
What's the lesser of two evils?
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Lucia23
Knowflake Posts: 600
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted January 04, 2009 04:32 PM
There are no easy solutions. In some ways, it's a dirty, rotten world with loads of Catch 22s...in my opinion, there are no right answers except:-be conscious and conscientious about EVERYTYHING you purchase--where does it come from? who made it? who profits from it? -attack exploitative corporations from the top down and publicize their wrongdoing. -get as educated as possible -shop locally, from responsible, non-corporate producers...I personally think it is better to do advocacy work for people who are exploited by corps that use sweatshops WITHOUT also giving money to those corps and their rich CEOs. We can support programs that create responsible job alternatives for exploited people, while at the same time boycotting the monsterous corporations that employ them now. If EVERY American, and EVERY European, refused to buy unaffordable clothes AND refused to support any corporation that used child labor, outsourced its labor, or denied any of its workers a living wage, manufacturers would have to adjust. Similarly, buying fake meat from a corporation that tortures turkeys is no big improvement over eating their tortured turkeys. I personally think it's better in the long run if we boycott exploitative producers, flood them with letters, and write articles about their dirty practices. There may be short-term tradeoffs and catch-22s. There is actually no need for any cheap, shoddy mass production anywhere in the world. IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
Knowflake Posts: 346
From:
Registered: Nov 2008
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posted January 08, 2009 12:38 PM
The way they kill some animals in China, it's disgusting.IP: Logged |
katatonic
Knowflake Posts: 633
From: ca, usa
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 08, 2009 01:47 PM
i don't understand the reasoning behind throwing out leather products already in your possession. or secondhand for that matter. don't buy any more if you don't want to but hey, those animals are already dead and long gone!IP: Logged |
Lucia23
Knowflake Posts: 600
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted January 08, 2009 11:41 PM
I guess the rationale for that, katatonic, at least according to my friends who have done it, is that wearing leather (or fur) announces to the world that you support that industry. I personally do not buy new leather, but I buy and wear secondhand leather (only from stores like Housing Works in NYC where 100% of the proceeds go directly to charity)...I have friends who disapprove of that choice though, and think that wearing any leather ever contributes to more killing and torture of our furry friends. I do hope the Dooney and Burke bags were given to charity, not thrown away! IP: Logged |
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