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lionseye***
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posted October 11, 2009 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
So sad..I've watched a couple of videos forwarded to me on facebook about particular cases of infant abuse, in both cases the infant was killed before their first birthday. Also, in both cases they had been abused physically, the girl sexually, repeatedly. They were both less than a year old when they died. My heart is breaking just thinking of these poor souls...Why would someone want to harm a defenceless baby? I don't get it? I need to know that something bigger is going on here, and these souls set out knowing their fate. I need to know that they returned to where they came from, ie Heaven, having done what they set out to do....And what of the perpetrators?....If that is ok...this dimension is just too sick for me sometimes.
I can't bare infants or children being harmed....I hate that about life on earth. Please tell me why this happens to babies? I'm still mopping up the tears after watching the video about the London boy, killed at 5 months old, then there was the New Mexico girl, killed at 6 months old.

I really can't deal with it. But I can't refuse to watch either.

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lionseye***
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posted October 11, 2009 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I have a baby, by the way... she'll be 10 months on the 13th of October. I adore her all day long! I just can't imagine......some people are so lost.

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Azalaksh
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posted October 11, 2009 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think there *is* any way to understand this kind of warped behavior.
The "people" who do this are sick, lionseye -- sick in mind and sick in heart -- sick, inhuman, insane. I suspect most of them were terribly abused as children and want to lash out. The people they lash out at are generally the closest and most vulnerable persons they can find.
I think the only thing the rest of us can do is to be vigilant and not look the other way when ANYONE is being abused. Report it to the authorities.
May God Bless all the little spirits who go Home before they even have a chance to be really alive here

And blessings to your little Saggie girl too!!

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katatonic
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posted October 11, 2009 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
no i don't think there is anyway to understand or accept this. and i find it hard to understand anyone being so isolated that no one notices either...there are a lot of cases of abuse where the definition is borderline, but these cases are extreme and obviously physical abuse is part of the picture...

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SunChild
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posted October 13, 2009 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I feel like you Lioneye. seeing videos or hearing about it gives me a strong bodily/emotional reaction, I literally feel sick and wish it was not real. I have a 2 year old, It's difficult to understand, I just understand that there are deeply sick people out there.

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Valus
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posted October 19, 2009 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

The worst is that, in many cases,
these appear to be the lucky ones;
taken early, and spared a lifetime
of abuse and the perpetuation of abuse.

But the most disturbing thing to me,
and the most difficult to understand,
is what millions of animals suffer
every single day of their "lives";
animals whose consciousness is
reasonably comparable to that of
an infant, or even a 3-year-old child.

It boggles the mind and heart to think
that people who are not insanely sick,
and have suffered no horrific perversion,
still persist in turning a blind eye
and/or contributing to such atrocities.

To see good people -- kind, loving people,
who are apalled by most forms of violence, --
committing the most hideous acts of cruelty.

And doing it with smiles, around the table,
toasting one another and celebrating good things.

Or with tears in their eyes,
lamenting some instance of violence
which is negligible by comparison
with the ones they daily support.

The irony is maddening.

How their hearts can twist and break and bleed
for unfortunate members of their own species, --
and even for select animals, like dogs and cats, --
and yet they pay no mind to the gentle cow or pig
who spends a hellish lifetime in cramped captivity;
mistreated, malnurished, often tortured and beaten,
and finally slaughtered "like a piece of meat".

Those who see this feel like timetravellers
who have arrived in a very primitive time,
where people have not yet come to understand
the most rudimentary ethical considerations.

Maybe, lionseye, if you can help me
to understand the abuse of animals,
and its general acceptance in our time,
I could help you to understand the abuse
of infants, and its acceptance among a
relatively miniscule number of sickos.

Maybe not.


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I find it unacceptable that violence
is the basis of some of our food habits.”
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oneruledbymars
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posted October 19, 2009 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah this sucks.
What so sad about it. Is the beliefs that people who practice rituals for sex majik and other forms of dark communication on the Astal have.

"Crowley welcomed the First World War as necessary to sweep away the old age and usher in the new one. After going public with his revelations, he was made head of the German-based Ordo Templi Orientis that he had joined in 1912. The OTO emphasis on sexual magic was precisely what Crowley had been searching for. He founded his cult of Thelema in Sicily in 1920, but was expelled in 1923 amid accusations of, among other things, blood drinking, drug taking, and child sacrifice"
"Dover, made a selling point of the claim that the book contains Crowley’s admission that he himself carried out ritual killings of children, a point not lost on a certain Henry Bibby at the end of the century. Having recommended to his readers the choice of “a male child of perfect intelligence,” Crowley later acknowledges that some of his acolytes might be squeamish when it comes to ritual sacrifice and offers the following conscience clause: “Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavoured to replace it with incense … But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is best.” Crowley offered no comforting disclaimers. He described his opus as a course of training, to help people from all walks of life “fulfill themselves perfectly.” And he promises that “the student will discover … a practical method of making himself a magician.” Within the same work, Crowley makes reference to unspecified progressive forms of blood sacrifice and he advocates self-mutilation, the offering of blood and virginity, and animal sacrifice by crucifixion. Crowley notoriously baptised a frog and called it “Jesus Christ” and then crucified it. This was in 1916, while living in New Hampshire, USA, during his induction ceremony to raise himself to the rank of magus. The remainder of Crowley’s life is a long legacy of perversion and evil. He believed that degrading sexual practice and drug use destroyed the consciousness of any sense of morality. This in turn enabled the consciousness, deprived of any sense of “ought” or “law,” to come under the influence of powerful supernatural beings. Former Labour prospective politician and National Children’s Home employee, David Hallam, commenting of Crowley’s opus, said: “People who are inadequate might pick up something like Crowley’s Magick in Theory and Practice and believe that they can control peoples’ lives by using magic, believing that if they do this to a child, they will have power. I cannot understand why anybody would want to publish a book advocating the ritual slaughtering of children. No doubt there’s a massive market for occult material. But publishers must remember that these are often handbooks. People are picking them up for a purpose. These thoughts came from the Book "The Edge of Evil by. Jerry Johnston (after the Enyclopedia of Occultism and Parasychology) he says that Crowley’s own son died a ritual death.

This is why our world is so ****** up currently there are thousands of members of underground Sects of Aleister Crowleys students and they continue his practice although hidden from view.

A contemporary British satanic magazine, Fenrir, published by the Thormynd Press in Shropshire, England, featured an article in its third issue titled “A Gift for the Prince.” The following are extracts: “Human sacrifice is powerful magick. The ritual death of an individual does two things: it releases energy … and it draws down dark forces. Sacrifice can be voluntary, of an individual, or involuntary … or results from events brought about by satanic ritual and/or planning (such as wars). Voluntary sacrifice usually only occurs every seventeen years as part of the ceremony of recalling. … An involuntary sacrifice is when an individual or individuals are chosen by a group, Temple, Order. Such sacrifices are usually sacrificed on the Spring Equinox. Great care is needed in choosing a sacrifice: the object being to dispose of a difficult individual or individuals without arousing undue suspicion. … The bodies are then buried or otherwise disposed of, care being taken if they are found, for suspicion not to fall on any of those involved. Those involved, of course, must be sworn to secrecy and warned that if they break their oath their own existence will be terminated. Breaking the oath of sacrifice draws down upon them the vengeance of all satanic groups. … Those who participate in the Ritual of Sacrifice must revel in the death(s): it being the duty of the Master and Mistress to find suitable participants.”

Few groups will openly describe themselves as being black magic practitioners or Satan worshippers. They will hide themselves behind something less ominous sounding like Wicca, paganism and nature worship. It all appears so harmless on the surface, but underneath the ugly traditions can be discovered. Traditions which would frighten off the sincere enquirer immediately. … One of the best known names in an ever-increasing gallery of infamy is Aleister Crowley who founded the so-called religion of Thelema. … I make mention of Crowley and his pathetic life because so many of today’s magical orders fashion themselves upon him and adopt ‘Thelema’ as a gateway to pure devil worship and classical Satanism. … The black arts, needless to say, attract a massive number of rogues and charlatans who impose upon the credulity of misguided seekers. Power over others is always the motive behind the devious jargon and rigmarole of their magic.“ ~ (From Satan To Christ p13-14).


So most people only see the mysterious child disappearances and think nothing of it. They choose children who will not be missed, orphans, children of impoverished families. I imagine even children of 3rd world countries are easy pray. So unnerving the truth is. But liberating as well. We must walk this Earth as aware individuals. Just our knowledge of what is going on helps us make better decisions in protecting ourselves and our children.

Remember that in order for there to be light there must be be darkness. The poles must be held in place by someone to allow the duality of consciousness to be there.
All is as it should be and as the last vestiges of this karma is dealt with may we all continue to be strong knowing all is as it should be. We must keep our resonance up, and not allow the darker things of this world to discourage us, know there is method to there madness though. That is why it has been so successful.


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