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Gabby
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posted May 26, 2013 02:53 PM
  
becoming more connected to our soul, and the soul is not male or female, its both!
But you have to chose one or the other in physical form...but the closer or more connected we are to the soul and identifying ourselves not through the ego but instead through the soul, the less your going to see yourself as one gender or the other.
You might feel and identify with both, so being born a man makes you long for a woman in physical form , but connecting to the soul makes you feel that connection inside...or maybe realize after incarnating that you feel more connected to the other gender.
I just wonder if we are seeing the same thing as weve always seen, men attracted to woman because she completes him...but as we gradully become more soulful we connect these energies inside instead of outside ourselves, leading to what appears to some as confusion about gender but really its the same longing for a return to the completeness we feel when we are not having to chose to be one gender or the other...Maybe this is a sign of the soul manifesting its desire to be complete within one body instead of needing another to complete it? No, im not gay...i just see a tender vulnerability at the core of so many gay people it makes me think perhaps they are soulfully evolving? Becoming closer to feeling the male/female energy in one like we do when we are not in a physical body, we are a soul and sexless. Yes i know being gay is still choosing a sexuality, but its defying the limits set by being human, like they are in the process of breaking through the walls and limits set by the human form.
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doommlord
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posted May 26, 2013 03:26 PM
i actually think we are seeing more gays becuse being gay is no longer such a terrible sin people get burned becuse of it and so allow hemselves to reach outside the closet.i personally think that if it was related to accepting the inner soul it could be more related to bisexuals (embrace both male and female part of soul and no longer taking a specific part) IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted May 26, 2013 03:33 PM
Hey DL...how are you?I see what your saying...but i wonder if this is a step towards that! I wonder if this is opening the doors for letting go of the stereotype of having to be a certain gender and having to look for the other energy from an outside source. Of course this would be a slow process of becoming less physical and more soulful and maybe not fully seen or understood for 100's of years, after several+ reincarnations! IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted May 26, 2013 05:33 PM
I think we're seeing more gay people now because it's much more tolerated (but there's still a lot of intolerance and outright hate, which is probably why you see such vulnerability). A century ago they'd have been jailed or lynched (still are in places like Africa), so it's no surprise they were much less visible. In earlier civilizations (including ancient barbaric ones) where homosexuality was accepted you could see a lot more of it then as well. And being gay and being transgendered are two different things, though they can mix. Some male crossdressers are actually straight (I bet there'd be more of them if girly men weren't often even more despised than masculine gay men), just as plenty of female tomboys are. While there are gays who buck gender roles I see most are normal men and women who are just attracted their own gender and many wouldn't have a clue that they're gay anymore than they would if someone is left handed.
Now when we as a spiritually evolved people are a lot less hung up about gender then we'll stop mutilating the genitals of intersex infants as a matter of course (such as this).
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doommlord
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posted May 27, 2013 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Hey DL...how are you?I see what your saying...but i wonder if this is a step towards that! I wonder if this is opening the doors for letting go of the stereotype of having to be a certain gender and having to look for the other energy from an outside source. Of course this would be a slow process of becoming less physical and more soulful and maybe not fully seen or understood for 100's of years, after several+ reincarnations!
im wonderfull i hope you are doing ok ^^ hows your list? i do think tims are changing and we are seeing a change in how gender seen. its up to us to see how far it goes. IP: Logged |
Venus
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posted May 27, 2013 09:33 AM
Gabby always asks the good questions..IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted May 27, 2013 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Venus:
Gabby always asks the good questions..
Yes she does  I also believe it is tolerance changing. As we grow and become more open to our spirit and less material, we see the all in a different light. We see the things that connect us, not divide us. I`d like to think we are losing the me against you intolerance. As a side note,
This is a good place to be in life`s time line. Hopefully, the future will bring greater understanding of how we are connected to other one another, other realms , places and Beings. ------------------
Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged.
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Randall
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posted May 28, 2013 10:32 AM
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Gabby
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posted May 28, 2013 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Yes she does I also believe it is tolerance changing. As we grow and become more open to our spirit and less material, we see the all in a different light. We see the things that connect us, not divide us. I`d like to think we are losing the me against you intolerance. As a side note,
This is a good place to be in life`s time line. Hopefully, the future will bring greater understanding of how we are connected to other one another, other realms , places and Beings.
Thank-you guys! I agree this is an amazing place to be! An amazing time to live! I really just love that we are seeing them fight, its a form of rebellion from allowing others to judge our needs. But they are doing it, generally speaking, in a kinder softer way! I feel they must be more connected to their souls and maybe giving a new example of ways to fight for your rights!
Nobody's out there with guns trying to forcefully demand their rights!
By comparison to most freedom fighters, they mildly accept the boundaries of others, even when it crosses theirs due to the limited and shallow thinking taught by religion!
They don't force themselves into churches every sunday causing scenes...saying if the drunks, child abusers, cheaters and lazy people can be here..why is it only my supposed "sin" that you call out and condemn for?
I don't know but I just have to say I respect that they respect others even if they are being disrespected....its very enlightened and Christlike! I think they are teaching a new way to freedom fight, without the violence, to me they seem to be a step ahead of so many today. They have qualities that most people dont get, they take for granted and view as a weakness, but humility and respect for others rights is exactly what they ask for, and what they give! They dont judge or condemn or try to prevent others from bring who they are. I just see as a whole, they fight without hurting anyone....its not an in your face im going to take you down fight.....but still they don't stop fighting for their rights ...they are just much more quiet n respectful about how they win their battles.
It just seems to me...if more people embraced the energy they have as a group ...straight or gay.....the world would be so much kinder place to live! They have a much more humble Christlike attitude than most religious leaders! Can you imagine a UN meeting discussing world issues, war, domination and retaliation because of their dofferences if the leaders where trying to respect one another's individualities and rights to express themselves in their own way while they express their own needs? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted May 28, 2013 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by doommlord:
im wonderfull i hope you are doing ok ^^ hows your list?i do think tims are changing and we are seeing a change in how gender seen. its up to us to see how far it goes.
Ugh DL.....haven't worked much more on it...the tornado that hit that's all over the news, it was a few blocks from my house! Just got internet back, without power n water for awhile...its been a less than perfect week but im not complaing!! My hard is a cakewalk compared to soooo many people around here....its heart breaking!
But we dont let it get us down! We always bounce back!
I saw the funniest thing yesterday.....this guy driving a green SUV...every window busted out, it looked like it had been put parcially through a compactor, it was beat up so bad! It had the mark painted on it to identify it as a vehicle that had already been searched for survivors/bodies, so obviously it was hit in the tornado.
But here's young guy driving it with a big smile, i was amazed it drove at all, but he'd painted in huge red letters " For Sale...will take best offer" what a great attitude n it was making ppl smile! He seemed proud to be driving that....!!
That's the spirit around here....everyone's just trying to find a reason to smile, be encouraging and know its going to get better with every second that passes!
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Lexxigramer
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posted May 28, 2013 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I think we're seeing more gay people now because it's much more tolerated (but there's still a lot of intolerance and outright hate, which is probably why you see such vulnerability). A century ago they'd have been jailed or lynched (still are in places like Africa), so it's no surprise they were much less visible. In earlier civilizations (including ancient barbaric ones) where homosexuality was accepted you could see a lot more of it then as well. And being gay and being transgendered are two different things, though they can mix. Some male crossdressers are actually straight (I bet there'd be more of them if girly men weren't often even more despised than masculine gay men), just as plenty of female tomboys are. While there are gays who buck gender roles I see most are normal men and women who are just attracted their own gender and many wouldn't have a clue that they're gay anymore than they would if someone is left handed.
Now when we as a spiritually evolved people are a lot less hung up about gender then we'll stop mutilating the genitals of intersex infants as a matter of course (such as this).
I do not see why clothing has to be gender based. Wear what you want should be the way.
And thank you about intersex.
I am one and what they did medically to intersex babies and children in the 1950s and even later, left most of us with lots of health problems.  IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted May 29, 2013 01:06 PM
Im not familiar with how they give an intersex baby a gender when its born...but i think its really kind of cruel to choose something like that when the person hasnt ever had the chance to see who they are!
What a horrible way to start life being forced into a gender, that might or might not be you! I wonder how often intersex babies were born before we had the technology to "correct" it. Using that term VERY lightly, i hope it isnt offensive! And how did those people fair, is there any accounts of people who lived life out without ever having anything done surgically? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted May 29, 2013 01:16 PM
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doommlord
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posted May 31, 2013 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Ugh DL.....haven't worked much more on it...the tornado that hit that's all over the news, it was a few blocks from my house! Just got internet back, without power n water for awhile...its been a less than perfect week but im not complaing!! My hard is a cakewalk compared to soooo many people around here....its heart breaking!
But we dont let it get us down! We always bounce back!
I saw the funniest thing yesterday.....this guy driving a green SUV...every window busted out, it looked like it had been put parcially through a compactor, it was beat up so bad! It had the mark painted on it to identify it as a vehicle that had already been searched for survivors/bodies, so obviously it was hit in the tornado.
But here's young guy driving it with a big smile, i was amazed it drove at all, but he'd painted in huge red letters " For Sale...will take best offer" what a great attitude n it was making ppl smile! He seemed proud to be driving that....!!That's the spirit around here....everyone's just trying to find a reason to smile, be encouraging and know its going to get better with every second that passes!
Wow sounds harsh and i do hope everything is ok with you  Funny how in this country little news come from other countries  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 05, 2013 10:43 AM
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libraschoice77
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posted July 20, 2013 07:31 PM
Just glad that now a days its acceptable to be gay or lesbian, cant even imagine what people went through back 60 years ago. Suffering inside just to keep up with ”correct” social appearances, you cant help who your attracted to whether male or female. We have come a long way as far as being an open minded society for gay rights. I remember when I was a teen my older sister was friends with a boy who was looking into a future sex change operation, and we would go over to her/his house and talk about clothes, shoes, etc. It was interesting to get a very indepth view of how one deals with their sexual indentity.
But even sometimes once in awhile people will get upset or feel threatened if they cant pegg your gender right off. Which it shouldnt really matter.IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted July 21, 2013 11:30 AM
As the mother of a 25 year old gay young lady, I agree with all the thoughts stated.I would like to add, that pure population, the number game has something to do with... Also, when my daughter came out she said: "the soul is androgynous...."
I will never forget that moment...and she was only a teenager at the time...
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libraschoice77
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posted July 22, 2013 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by hippichick:
As the mother of a 25 year old gay young lady, I agree with all the thoughts stated.I would like to add, that pure population, the number game has something to do with... Also, when my daughter came out she said: "the soul is androgynous...."
I will never forget that moment...and she was only a teenager at the time...
Wow Hippi, she is very lucky to have a mother who is very understanding, I hear so many stories about how gay teens cant tell their parents about what they are going through for fear of rejection. There is alot of beauty in androgynous, but only some people see it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 21, 2013 11:11 AM
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Randall
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posted December 22, 2013 01:29 PM
To answer the original question, yes.IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted December 22, 2013 11:39 PM
As a gay male, I think the reason why we're seeing more gays is because...1). The population is bigger now than in the past (7 billion currently, compared to 3 billion in 1960) so there's more homosexuals/bisexuals because of it. 2). Culture is more accepting of it, although you do hear lots of things such as Russia and India being anti-gay. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 06, 2014 01:43 AM
I live in Bible Belt USA....they just passed a law here that you can discriminate against people who are gay in the work force!!!
I was so upset, I don't get how they can pass a law that is against the constitution??
Makes me sick!! What's next you can wear a sheet over your head and burn a cross at work if your a minority white person in the work force?? This is just wrong!!! It's like they are begging ppl to discriminate?? How does your sexual preference, race, color or any kind of difference we have make someone so unacceptable that someone cannot employ them??
I'm just so disappointed in this country!! It's going the wrong direction!! Ugh....I'm just sad now! it seemed like it was getting better?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 07, 2014 02:12 PM
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Randall
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posted March 08, 2014 10:43 AM
That law should be contested.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 01, 2014 10:41 PM
Parents who supported Prop 8 on behalf of the Mormon church changed their mind after they realized their son was gay: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/wendy-gay-family_n_5042297.html quote:
This week’s Huffington Post Gay Voices RaiseAChild.US “Let Love Define Family” series installment challenges our readers by combining the triple threat of hot-button topics: politics, religion and sexual orientation. Read on as Rich Valenza of RaiseAChild.US shares his frank conversation with one truly amazing mom, Wendy Williams Montgomery.
I don't even think it's hypocrisy, because they've changed for all gays, not just their son. The way it looks to me is that they DID NOT THINK about it, they just did as they were told because they'd been conned into thinking that made them good people, but once they realized their son was gay they then DID THINK about it and everything changed. I think that's why acceptance to gays has come about so quickly over the last decade, before most people didn't think about it, but once they saw we were real people and realized people they knew, maybe even loved, were gay then people began to reexamine their beliefs. Because they'd never actually believed anything before, they'd simply gone with the flow, but once their brain was activated then they stopped going with the flow and started rowing. And increased acceptance will mean increased visibility. IP: Logged |
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