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Ellynlvx
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posted June 03, 2014 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sophia's Cool...

I just like that Dead Eye Stare delivered with that Ascerbic Mercury in Scorpio Tongue...

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posted June 03, 2014 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, do you guys know of any undercover doll collection sites?

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posted June 03, 2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, I'd ask you not to respond. I know you get defensive though you and I seem to work it out when you think I've said something rude toward you. And I'm neutral toward Lonake (offhand, I can't recall her clashing with anyone other than you so I think it's just bad astrological chemistry) but I vaguely recall a pattern between you two that was she thought you were attacking her, you said you weren't and it was silly she thought so, she then said you were paying too much attention to her by responding at all which got you defensive about that as well which then led to her saying you were still obsessing about her by arguing with her, and it was just a merry-go-round that was never be resolved, and it will NEVER be resolved. And I see that pattern starting up again in this thread. If you want to escape it then jump off the merry-go-round.

You don't have to defend yourself, very few people will take that as some admission of guilt on your part. (Heck, most people won't even remember it after say a month.) Just let it go.

Just trying to prevent you some unnecessary stress and pointless bickering that cannot be resolved.

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posted June 03, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continued from above.

Again to Faith,
-Pretty saddened re: venomous etc. that you're living with such hate, but, you live with that. I don't.
-And yes you made comment after comment for disliking me for the attention I received. That's something you don't like in general I noticed last year, people calling too much attention to themselves. I think that's also pretty sad, as you think they don't deserve it.
-As for the aqua guy comment, if I looked for it and found it, as in if you haven't yet edited it out for the sake of your argument , that would only be one comment. And that one comment on its own doesn't add up to prove anything. Too easy to poke a hole in, Whether or not you've edited it out, I don't know, and Im not bothered if you did or didn't.
-As to the fact that our Mercuries are conjunct, I just saw a member this week who was born within a week of me, as all our placements are the same save for different moons and asc. And conjunct Mercuries. All you and i have the same is Mercury, conjunct, and the same Asc sign. That's it. I bring up this other member because I see no similarities in our posting or general 'style' and he/she is someone who, theoretically, should be similar to me in that way, as we have everything conjunct, save for asc and moon.
-To add to the above, I was friends with a Capricorn sun/Pisces Moon/Leo rising in high school, and although we were 'best friends' as young girls call themselves, we didn't think in the same way. We had very different lives and life experiences, but we clicked. The people who I find think and perceive things closest to how I do all have Air rising, surprisingly, with a water placement in their big 3, usually their Sun. Feel free to add another snarky "I care because......?" to this comment, as I gave you again more personal info than you asked for. Your Aries Jupiter is really showing. And I think my Scorpio Jupiter shows pretty strongly too.

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posted June 03, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
I know you get defensive

WHO ME???!!!


^ That was a joke. I'm in a weird mood tonight.

quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Just trying to prevent you some unnecessary stress and pointless bickering that cannot be resolved.

I know it can't be resolved. I don't take offense to anything she says...who cares....but her theory that I've been exerting all this effort to become like her Doppelganger was too bizarre for me to ignore.

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posted June 03, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
There are other things I wanted to get back to here in this thread along with things from other threads. Now it's a jumbled mess and a shame that I cant respond to people properly because threads got closed. What a shame. Potential for learning and growing will forever be stunted.

Just start another thread, maybe it will last more than a day.

No clowns though!

I do really want to hear your thoughts on everything. It was getting so good then- boom.

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posted June 03, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Muahaha

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Faith
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posted June 03, 2014 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
-As for requesting a list, that would involve going into the archives both for my posts and for yours.

An accusation as huge and absurd as this requires some evidence you know? So do it. I would have done it. To do less makes you look crazy.

quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Also, as you think I made a ridiculous accusation, you either know you did it, or you know that you did not.


I never copied you, apart from using that one quote that I admitted to.

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Frankly I'm not surprised that you deny it, as it would be ridiculous to cop to such a claim when youve made such a perfect swindle.

Swindle of what? Specify.

Better yet, LL has a search engine. So take those big bad memories you have of me robbing your thoughts....go to the search engine...and find the evidence!

Easy peasy, not that hard, no excuses!

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posted June 03, 2014 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
As to the fact that our Mercuries are conjunct,

So, I know your birthday and your rising sign. When I play around with that data at astro.com, it tells me your Mercury is probably at 5 Aquarius? Mine is also at 5 Aquarius. That is what I meant by conjunct.

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posted June 04, 2014 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, all I can say is what I posted prior on this thread. I needed to have a space to give voice to something that had bothered me, that I hadn't given voice to.
Theres one bit of my post here that you didnt respond to, and i think thats unfortunate. i do wish you well. I remember in the beginning of our interactions here how you mentioned having so much on your plate, well I have a lot on my plate too. But i can have compassion for someone while disagreeing with their actions.

To PixieJane, what you recalled here was the basic first disagreement between Faith and I. I had posted something about an ex of mine while i was in a foul mood that she took too much to heart which I was bewildered by. Unbeknownst to me I ended up hitting a -very- raw nerve and i saw that by how belligerently she acted, hounding me across multiple LL forums. It all happened very quickly. An awkward memory of my time here then, at best.
And you're right it may never be resolved, and if she's resigned to making a big show of hating me 'more than Ami' then of course it won't :/ And I guess I get to be seen as the only "big baddie" here in her eyes; a big bad evil person

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posted June 04, 2014 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
So, I know your birthday and your rising sign. When I play around with that data at astro.com, it tells me your Mercury is probably at 5 Aquarius? Mine is also at 5 Aquarius. That is what I meant by [b]conjunct. [/B]

Just saw this post, replying, and.. I addressed this point in a previous post here:
"All you and i have the same is Mercury, conjunct, and the same Asc sign."

We both already knew they were conjunct, from last year or the year before, we had already had a conversation about this, I don't understand the disagreement here

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posted June 04, 2014 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Faith, all I can say is what I posted prior on this thread.

I'm happy to be completely unlike you in that respect. Hell would freeze over before I posted unfounded allegations of that magnitude. I've made big allegations in the past and made damn sure I did a lot of homework to back up my argument.

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Theres one bit of my post here that you didnt respond to, and i think thats unfortunate.

Which part?

Well you didn't confirm or deny whether or not your Mercury is *exactly* conjunct mine? And hey, maybe that can explain some similarities in our thinking?

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Originally posted by Lonake:
i do wish you well. I remember in the beginning of our interactions here how you mentioned having so much on your plate, well I have a lot on my plate too.

Thanks and good luck to you then.

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posted June 04, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
We both already knew they were conjunct, from last year or the year before, we had already had a conversation about this, I don't understand the disagreement here

I don't remember talking about the degrees with you.

If you remembered all along, and if we're both at 5 Aqua, I'm flabbergasted that you didn't give me more benefit of the doubt, that we were simply thinking alike as astrology would predict....and not that I am some mega-freak with nothing better to do than creep around stealing your ideas.

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posted June 04, 2014 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Friggin insomnia...

quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
To PixieJane, what you recalled here was the basic first disagreement between Faith and I. I had posted something about an ex of mine while i was in a foul mood that she took too much to heart which I was bewildered by.

Yeah I was new to this forum and totally unprepared for what I perceived as a blindside. I never would have gone on a thread where people were talking about their aspects, saying something like, "If you know someone with that aspect, run away from them as fast as you can and never look back!" Or whatever you said. I don't recall it verbatim. True, if I had not been new here, I wouldn't have called you rude. But that's essentially all I did in that moment.

quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Unbeknownst to me I ended up hitting a -very- raw nerve and i saw that by how belligerently she acted, hounding me across multiple LL forums.

Waaaaait a second. We were both fighting. You kept popping up everywhere making snarky comments about my aspects, while I just complained about you directly to your face.

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Originally posted by Lonake:
It all happened very quickly.

It all dragged on for ages.

quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
And you're right it may never be resolved, and if she's resigned to making a big show of hating me 'more than Ami' then of course it won't :/

You said that I have been talking trash about you while you were gone. You have been gone for what...a year? And one of the first things you do once you get back is come at me guns a-blazing accusing me of being an absolute WACKO....so that put me in a position where I actually DID feel like talking about you! Saying "no, haven't been saying much about you here" but to be honest I did tell another friend I can't stand you.

Not that I hate you.

Just that I can't stand you...can't stand these stupid BS fights we get into. There is a big difference between that...and hate.

I actually love my sister and I can't stand her worse than anyone.

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And I guess I get to be seen as the only "big baddie" here in her eyes; a big bad evil person

I never think of anyone that way. You tend to put words in my mouth, and they taste awful. Like telling people that I hate your sun square Uranus when I never said ANYTHING about that, and I never would, since my daughter has that aspect very tight, and I happen to think she is awesome. But no, I have to explain this to people: "Lonake just made that up out of thin air, I like sun square Uranus people just fine."

I could also say a lot of nice things about you...sometimes I go through the archives looking for something, bump into things you've said to other people...a lot of times it holds my interest, and you seem like someone I would get along with quite well, theoretically. Not that it really matters. And not that I'm inclined to rave about your posts after you just accused me of "swindling" them. But it's not like I am insensible to quality, and it's not like you have none.

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posted June 04, 2014 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh great another lost post.

Ok to Faith re:Mercury, I think I get where you're headed now with the comment on them being conjunct,

My mercury rounded up to the minute on astro.com is 5'51, I don't know yours rounded up to the minute but we've known that they're both at 5. I'm sorry if you think I wasn't giving you the benefit of the doubt, but I did post that they are conjunct, but I didn't know it was the same degree that you were trying to emphasize.

However I don't think that two people having conjunct, same degree even "to the minute" conjunct mercuries will be more in line with each others thoughts, more than average, than two people who don't. As I understand your post now you were approaching this point from a strictly astrological pov. From that, there are houses and aspects and progressions to take into account. This is aside from any basic concrete differences that the two people have, just looking at astrology. That's my view anyway.
With conjunct Mercuries i would generally expect a lot of chatter, being friendly with a lot of the same people in the nearby vicinity where they primarily interact, interest in some common subjects that gives basis for the initial chatter, things of that sort because its synastry and were talking of how people interact. But even then other synastric aspects to each persons mercury would be coloring this basic interaction. And each individual on the basis on their chart, strictly astrologically speaking, would be bringing different things to the table.

From what youre saying, maybe if your Merc being same degree, was also in the 7th and had the same aspects as mine, was progressed to the same point, etc. then I would be able to judge more clearly just from a strictly astrological pov. A twin, for example.

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posted June 04, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks and good luck to you then.

If this is meant sincerely, then thank you,

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posted June 04, 2014 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was looking at it differently and much more simply, just assuming we are both mentally anchored into the energy at 5 Aqua.

Rounding both our Mercuries up to 6 Aqua:

quote:
Aquarius 6. Seeing a stone lion in a museum, a young girl asks her parents if they are at the zoo. (Omega Symbol) Interacting/Experimental

Yeah, ARE we at the zoo? Seems like it sometimes.

Sabian:

quote:
5-6 deg Aquarius

A Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play


That's what we're talking about..who said what? Who's hiding what? Who or what ARE you? I think it's fitting to this situation at least.

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posted June 04, 2014 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:

If this is meant sincerely, then thank you,

It was sincere. I can bury the hatchet, it doesn't serve any purpose.

Let's try and forget the past.

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posted June 04, 2014 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not well versed in sabians but there is a blain bovee or something like that who has posted his interpretations of the degrees that seem to make sense.

And thank you for the sincere comment. I agree.

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posted June 04, 2014 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to see that you both came to an understanding.

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posted June 04, 2014 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I could also say a lot of nice things about you...sometimes I go through the archives looking for something, bump into things you've said to other people...a lot of times it holds my interest, and you seem like someone I would get along with quite well, theoretically. Not that it really matters. And not that I'm inclined to rave about your posts after you just accused me of "swindling" them. But it's not like I am insensible to quality, and it's not like you have none.


When I was last posting here, inbetween posting, I was also waiting for and making phone calls on 2 phone lines re:an incident that took place earlier today,obviously not LL related, so at the time that I was responding to the mercury issue I was trying to be in a million places at once, and my mind was buzzing regarding this thing that happened. And my minds still buzzing with it becaue tomorrow's going to be another day of phone calls. So I missed the longer post you had written above, not that Ill reply to it point by point after our agreement. But I did catch this, the part I quoted, which was unexpected. And it made me smile because in it I think I can catch a glimpse of a sort of compliment. That's all. Maybe tomorrow ill think that's a dumb thing to say, and that I shouldn't pepper my post with what was happening in my life, but for now it makes sense. I don't know if I should say thank you based off of how it's worded, and maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it was unexpected. And something tells me I shouldn't let it go unacknowledged, hence this post.

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posted June 04, 2014 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you acknowledged it, it was a tentative compliment, only tentative because on the rocky ground we've been standing on, but if we're going to be getting along better, I could put amplifiers on that praise once it seems more appropriate.

If you want me to delete any of my posts to you on this thread I will.

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posted June 04, 2014 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charmainec:
Glad to see that you both came to an understanding.

Isn't it strange, and totally overdue?

Hi Charmaine!

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posted June 04, 2014 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box...but I think you are implying that it's quixotic of me to think I can solve anything here with my batwing arms, arthritic wrists, and lightsaber?

The subtitles are in Japanese or I might be able to get deeper into the lyrics/meaning. But this is...really quite the Sphinx!




the lyrics:

"Hear me now
Oh thou bleak and unbearable world,
Thou art base and debauched as can be;
And a knight with his banners all bravely unfurled
Now hurls down his gauntlet to thee!
I am I, Don Quixote,
The Lord of La Mancha, þ
My destiny calls and I go,
And the wild winds of fortune
Will carry me onward,
Oh whithersoever they blow.
Whithersoever they blow,
Onward to glory I go!

...

Hear me, heathens and wizards
And serpents of sin!
All your dastardly doings are past,
For a holy endeavor is now to begin
And virtue shall triumph at last!

...

I am I, Don Quixote,
The Lord of la Mancha,
My destiny calls and I go,
And the wild winds of fortune
Will carry me onward,
Oh whithersoever they blow! "

You can read it in different aspects of course, but to me Don Quixote represents the bravery and courage and determination to stay true to his knightly ideals even when it seems like a fight against windmills, even if he might be figthing a futile fight, but he persists.


I also remembered that Linda Goodman related the sign of Sagittarius to Don Quixote, somewhere (I think in Sun Signs).

sometimes those songs just pop into my head, and I am not quite sure why.

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posted June 04, 2014 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! Well maybe that's why almost that whole play has always made me want to ball my eyes out? It so TOTALLY fits my Sag Venus-Neptune.

I got the sniffles just reading those lyrics, no lie.

*Trying to pull myself out of all this mush I keep falling into*

But wait, so my big Leo rising ego doesn't miss any potential praise, was this alluding to me??

quote:
You can read it in different aspects of course, but to me Don Quixote represents the bravery and courage and determination to stay true to his knightly ideals even when it seems like a fight against windmills, even if he might be figthing a futile fight, but he persists.

If so, thank you!

If not, oops! LOL

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PS Did you get my long email from the other night? I know the way yahoo stacks them, you sometimes can't see just how many emails I've sent you But the other day, it was three!

Not nagging for a reply, I know you are super busy, just trying to ensure that the delivery was complete.

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