posted December 15, 2014 07:58 PM            

#1: "While Mods are encouraged to speak their minds and exhibit their own brand of self-expression, just like any other Knowflake, should tempers flare and arguments ensue, they should not join in the fray but instead put on their Mod hats at that time and guide the discussion back on track, if possible."

There have been cases where this rule has been blatantly violated. What is the penalty for this? I suggest a good way to deal with this and maintain the wall that the mods and Knowflakes help to keep intact is to publicly warn mods when this rule is violated. This will ascertain to the mod that their behavior is unacceptable and must be revised and give users a sense of security and respect that is conducive to a positive atmosphere here on LL.

#7: "Mods should never insult, aggressively confront, verbally attack, or otherwise negatively engage other Mods. Mods are human. Mods themselves are also members of the community. Sometimes, things get heated. No one is perfect, not the least of all Mods. Free expression means sometimes getting angry over issues. That much is understandable. But that being said, Mods are expected to be united for the community and not divisive or polarizing with one other. No insults to one or more Mods by another Mod is allowed."

After every statement where Mod is mentioned should be added "and users". Users are also human. Or... Is that debatable? Do you see why this rule in itself is problematic? It protects only mods but not users. This certainly needs modification (no pun intended).

#8: "Friendships and bonds will form, but when fights break out, Mods must be able to remain impartial and put the well-being of Lindaland first."

I can at least provide more than 10 threads where this rule has been severely violated. My suggestion for this remains the same as the one I've stated for #1. Mods who resort to this must be publicly warned in the thread of offense such that people who were attacked and mistreated feel that they have been protected and retributed.

#9: "There is certainly no shame in changing one's mind and resigning as Mod if the above doesn't jibe for some reason."

Very friendly gesture, giving mods the freedom to resign or take a break. Unfortunately, when rules are constantly violated and mods do not resign or take a break as you suggest, then I believe a more active decision should be taken. Ban is to users as suspension or loss of modship(?) should be to mods.

That way we can have a nice brick wall. No matter how much glue and cement there is and how necessary they are to holding up the structure, it will always fall apart if the bricks are broken and eroded.

posted December 15, 2014 08:15 PM            

Well, if I've accomplished anything, at least I've come to prove just exactly what kind of administration runs this entire forum. You are an unfair person, Randall. You mock me instead of taking my concerns seriously and in the process of doing so, you proved everyone who criticizes you and this website right.

I have not seen ONCE a moderator who has repeatedly violated these rules receive a public warning. Also, I have read the rules for users. I told you that I wanted to be a law student. Do you think I would make such a silly mistake?

posted December 15, 2014 08:17 PM            

There was no justifiable reason to close that thread.

So, this explains the Lets Make Sweet Peas a Safe Place disappearance, huh. That thread did not malfunction.

Explain to me what T said was wrong. I have heard very nasty things said to posters here and you DGAF to close threads so quickly.

posted December 15, 2014 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You missed my point, DF. My response to her was related to the following claim of hers:

After every statement where Mod is mentioned should be added "and users". Users are also human. Or... Is that debatable? Do you see why this rule in itself is problematic? It protects only mods but not users. This certainly needs modification (no pun intended).

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You did not miss his point, DF. He missed his own point and mine.

posted December 15, 2014 08:33 PM            

Please post a link in which Ami, as a mod of course, has been "disciplined" by you? If not, at least provide as accurate a date as you can.

SP is apt to volatility (many people can agree on that), can we perhaps keep a sharp eye on how modship is handled there? And address recent incidents in which modship has been violated that have not been taken care of or resolved?

posted December 15, 2014 08:42 PM            

Just a little disclaimer: I'm not wanting to start any fights or one-up insult wars, I'm just simply asking some questions. When I say *you* I mean generally, the whole group.

Why must we continue on about a closed thread? It was closed, regardless if we liked it or not, why not just drop it and not risk the chance of the second thread, created to continue it, to be closed.

Why can't we just accept rules? Randall is the webmaster here, why step on his toes? If you don't like it here you don't have to be here. No one is being held against their will. Why waste time and energy on things, that are appeasing to you, that are not going to change?

There are many things that I don't like but keep to myself about. It's not my site and I don't make the rules, I deal with it. Why's it so hard for others to do the same.

I don't feel there were any injustices done when closing those threads. He closed them, big whoop, why can't we just move on?

Oh one more, just because a person doesn't respond to a certain question does not mean that they're evading that question. It's simply being a mature adult and ignoring questions that will get nowhere besides more fighting and bickering. I admire people like that.

posted December 15, 2014 08:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
That the Mod rules state that they should treat Knowflakes well? Do they not state such? ???

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posted December 15, 2014 08:46 PM            

Why have some members stopped coming (Meisseiri, PlutoSquared, etc) or left because of the SP dynamics?

Why is it okay for a mod to play favorites when things get heated and justify their behavior by coddling, name calling, or passive-aggressively quoting everything to rile people up?

Why is it okay for a mod to close a thread rather quickly when one of their faves is getting their problematic statements handed to them but when it is someone else they are conveniently not there?

Why is it okay for a mod to harass T every time she posts for no justifiable reason?

Why is it okay for a mod to say disgusting things about women but when someone politely disagrees about gender the thread is locked?

Why is it okay to ask people numerous times about getting new mods but rejecting every single choice?

posted December 15, 2014 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Thank you, Barb. You are one of the most rational people I have experienced here. I know you are going through a lot, but I would be honored to have you be a Mod at Sweet Peas, if you would accept it.

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posted December 15, 2014 08:48 PM            

I continue on a thread because I have views and opinions that were undermined and ignored simply because someone has the authority to put a close to them by disallowing me to post. I argue and discuss because I value my ideals and I have a strong voice and use it because I refuse to be belittled. If people have a problem with it, they don't have to contribute to the reopening of a thread topic. If people do not like it, they can chill about and avoid the issue.