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PixieJane
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posted January 14, 2016 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The paradox of it is torturing my brain!

I say that with some self-deprecating humor, but I keep trying to grasp what's actually being said, to make sense out of it so it's not so innately contradictory, and I can't do it...and I can't stop trying to make sense out of it. When the contradiction is blatantly stated as a contradiction as often as it is then it MUST mean something, and yet in the past when I and others asked for the clarification it can't be given, at least without once again stating the conditions in which love can be given while calling it unconditional! While I realize that there are paradoxes in life, I sense none of that here, just muddy thinking, yet I can't help but keep trying to solve it.

And I thought the "Everything I say is false" paradox was going to be my biggest headache.

ETA: this was made in a moment after seeing yet another "unconditional love" thread that put all sorts of conditions on it (but apparently unaware that the love was therefore conditional). And yet this was helpful for me to understand it:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/002250.html

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posted January 15, 2016 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've rarely seen love as unconditional, even between parents and children. I'm not entirely sure how to picture it - does it mean that you never have expectations of the other person?

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posted January 15, 2016 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I picture it (and yes, unconditional love exists, and it's an evil force, not just to the self but sometimes even to society itself, though usually it's only dangerous to children of the one who unconditionally loves and the like), and the way those who promote it picture it, are two completely different animals. Of course those who promote it put all sorts of conditions on the "unconditional" love so it's not really unconditional.

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posted December 31, 2016 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/full/Perfect-Little-Panels-comics-Couples-dating-2024957.jpeg

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posted December 31, 2016 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ME_167_Achieving.png

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posted December 31, 2016 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

(NOTE: I shared for fun, but if there truly is unconditional love in the technical sense, as opposed to the conditional love miscalled unconditional that seems popular, then it comes from pets.)

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posted December 31, 2016 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OTOH...maybe related to unconditional love...

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posted December 31, 2016 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 31, 2016 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bacon!

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posted January 03, 2017 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/full/Perfect-Little-Panels-comics-Coupl es-dating-2024957.jpeg

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I think that would be me. (Running away from the MRA.)

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

(NOTE: I shared for fun, but if there truly is unconditional love in the technical sense, as opposed to the conditional love miscalled unconditional that seems popular, then it comes from pets.)


I've experienced it. It also goes both ways with some of us - whatever they do, I love them.

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posted January 04, 2017 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the unconditional love can easily go two way between a human and pet, one that arguably beats out all other types of love (at least with some people).

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posted January 05, 2017 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Yeah, the unconditional love can easily go two way between a human and pet, one that arguably beats out all other types of love (at least with some people).

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posted January 07, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dog person.

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posted February 17, 2017 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted February 18, 2017 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's Venus in Aquarius.

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posted February 18, 2017 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You want a partner who loves you for your soul?

Not just my soul, but my soul's desired expression through my body.

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posted February 19, 2017 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 08, 2017 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good thread.

The most stupid couple that people call soulmates and twin flames cuz they love each other "deeply" is DEstiny (like people likes to call)
Damon and Elena from the vampire diaries.

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posted March 08, 2017 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need more of this.It is funny and actually throw some truths in our faces.

Maybe some illustrations about relationships on a specific thread?It is a good way to learn all together.

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posted March 09, 2017 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elena returns on Friday in a two-hour finale as the series ends.

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posted March 09, 2017 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate the final episode of any serie.Gets me really emotional! :/

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