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posted January 31, 2013 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Yes, something 10 degrees or less away from the ASC does not count as 12th House, but first house imo



Really?
My husband's Mars/Venus conj are very close to his Asc (26/27d Aries and 1d Taurus) and seem pretty 12th House.
What affect does their being in a different sign have?

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posted January 31, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure but I just go by the 10 degree rule, but as you know, it is just a choosing of degrees, with which some people would disagree.

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posted January 31, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't understand the question. If the planet is in the 12th house, I would count it as 12th House, myself.


I was just confusing myself....but yes I think I am definitely a 12th house sun, thanks.

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posted February 01, 2013 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is empty.

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posted February 02, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My 12 H cusp is Leo followed by intercepted Virgo.

I have Mars in the 11 H but actually in the 12 H, in Leo. Mars is sextile Uranus/1H and Venus/9H/MC, and trine Chiron/7H.

Pars of Fortune in Virgo, opposite Jupiter in intercepted Pisces/6H, and square Saggitarius NN/3H.

I don't know what to say about it. It is a mystery to me.

Edit- I mean I have the impression some of these placements/aspects effects could be caused by other placemnets/aspects of my chart too. (ex: leo/12H-cap/5H)


First fruit of my research - repressed anger. Ok. I realize it is true.

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posted February 03, 2013 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flower
If you have Mars in the 12th, you will have repressed anger. Anything in the 12th is repressed.

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posted February 03, 2013 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippychic823     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Assertion is hard and being comfortable with your primal passions is hard. Is that true?


'Assertion is VERY hard for me most times but oddly enough I have had partners tell me I'm too emotional....as far as primal passions go, I need to think about that some more....I guess to a degree I am uncomfortable with some of them. Thanks for your response Ami

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posted February 03, 2013 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippychic823     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also my ASC is Libra too....does that make a difference?

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posted March 16, 2013 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for two-headed-she     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pluto in the 12th house is conjunct my ascendant in Libra...a strange contradiction for someone with a Uranus influence on her Sun in the 1st house, and a strong Virgo 11th house focus with Jupiter conjunct my North Node (early degrees, tight orb) and Saturn (not conjunct) there as well.

I've always though of my pluto in the 12th as a painful curse, but I'm a little unsure of the response that's created in the conjunction of my ascendent. Often I read Pluto in the 12th as a sign of secret abuse as a child, though not any specific type of abuse.

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Hey

I have moon at 0 degrees, Cheiron at 1 degree (almost aspecting everything) and Jupiter at 29 degrees in Taurus in the 12th house. Also my south node is there and rather a lot of asteroids, like Lilith conjunct moon & Circe. The actual cusp of the house is Aries.
Been reading a lot about the 12th house. What rings truth for me is being in tune with the subconscious and it being easy for me to read between the lines. It's like I can look through the 'masks' people wear and see what's beneath that if that makes any sense at all.

Most surprising info I read so far is that many in Cheiron in the 12th house work with dreams and guided visualisation. That is exactly what I do next to my 'mundane' work

I often read that moon in the 12th stands for a difficult relationship with the mother. That was absolutely not the case for me, quite the opposite really. Main influence in my upbringing came from her. But perhaps this is related to my Lilith conjunct moon?

*edited some out, 12th house likes to be secretive ;-) *

Also I am intrigued by the (by society perceived as) 'outcasts' and 'underdogs'. I actually always take that in account with my work & recently I have started working (on a voluntary base) with homeless people.

Lovely thread and I really enjoy reading all of your experiences

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posted March 27, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see your questions dear friends. I will be back as soon as I can xx

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I have an exact uranus pluto cnjct at 15 virgo in 12th and it trines a sun mars conjunct at 13 taurus in 8th. Fun fun

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posted June 27, 2013 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter in Leo in my 12th. I have NO IDEA what that means because I don't feel secretive to begin with (and Jupiter expands/amplifies right?).

However, the 12H cusp is Cancer so that would be the house ruler correct?

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posted November 19, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 19, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Mercury Flow

I just noticed this thread bumped and some responses I did not get to. I will be back! Sorry

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posted November 19, 2013 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, interesting discussion of the 12th house. I have my natal Sun in the 12th, in Cancer. I have a close Mercury/Venus conjunction in Leo in the 12th, close to my ascendant (Merc/venus are 5 and 6 degrees, ascendant at 8 degrees Leo). I don't think I agree that in my case at least one could interpret them in the 1st house. Venus is ruler of my 10th house (Taurus) and 3rd (Libra). Mercury is ruler of my 2nd (Virgo) and 11th. I would definitely say those areas of my life have been repressed. Maybe if I got into a more 12th house-y kind of job it would be better.

All in all, though, I would be perfectly happy to be a hermit. Doesn't pay too well and I have a cat to support, so...*sigh*

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posted November 20, 2013 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 20, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Cancer Girl

Interesting post!

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posted November 20, 2013 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I have Jupiter in Leo in my 12th. I have NO IDEA what that means because I don't feel secretive to begin with (and Jupiter expands/amplifies right?).

However, the 12H cusp is Cancer so that would be the house ruler correct?


Jupiter in the 12th is the guardian angel aspect. These people usually have many near miss accidents and things and survive as if by a miracle. Have you?

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posted November 20, 2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuryflow:
I have my sun, mercury and chiron in the 12th.
sun and chiron in gemini, mercury taurus.

my sun opposes uranus and jupiter.
mercury is trine my moon and venus.

what does this mean?


12th house planets suppress the nature of the planet. So with Chiron, pain would be suppressed.
With Mercury, one could be shy when communicating


Sun oppose Uranus may make routine hard.

Merc trine moon and venus makes you able to communicate your heart and also communicate when you love someone and about things you love. It is very nice!

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posted December 26, 2013 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BirdLee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 12th house is in scorpio and my mars is in sag
I don't understand the trine talk Ami Anne! Merry Christmas everyone!

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posted December 26, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BirdLee:
My 12th house is in scorpio and my mars is in sag
I don't understand the trine talk Ami Anne! Merry Christmas everyone!


This does not tell me too much. Are you pretty new to AStrology?

The trine is when 2 planets really work well together such that there is an easy flow of energy like how you talk to her best friend.

The square would be like talking to someone with whom you have a strained relationship

the trine is between the same element like Gemini and aquarius and Libra. These are all air.

Basically, the 2 planets flow together for an easy expression for you.

Hope that helps, Friend


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posted December 28, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coteau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 5 planets in the 12th house, Mercury and Saturn in Pisces, and Sun, Moon and Venus in Aquarius. All of these planets square Pluto. Also, Sun,Moon and Venus make a stellium in the 12th house, in Aquarius.

I don't think I can fully explain how each planet in the 12th house functions in my life though.

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posted December 28, 2013 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by coteau:
I have 5 planets in the 12th house, Mercury and Saturn in Pisces, and Sun, Moon and Venus in Aquarius. All of these planets square Pluto. Also, Sun,Moon and Venus make a stellium in the 12th house, in Aquarius.

I don't think I can fully explain how each planet in the 12th house functions in my life though.


WOW Do any of them come within 10 degrees of the ASC. if so, I don't count them as 12th house but as 1st house.

Lets go from there, Friend.


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