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Ami Anne
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posted November 20, 2012 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house planets are the hardest thing in the charts, according to some of my books by respected Astrologers.

We can discuss how your 12th house planets function. How do they work in a practical way in your life.

Which ones do you have? How do they differ depending on which one is in the 12th house?

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posted November 22, 2012 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A mysterious House--it should make for an interesting discussion.

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posted November 22, 2012 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, it is kind of it's own world. The planets which are in here are otherworldly

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posted November 24, 2012 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As you know I have 12th house Pluto in Scorpio.

Here are the aspects it makes:
>Sextile MC so sextile IC, right? Explains a lot about my volatile childhood if so, since Mars in the 8th also makes this aspect
>Sextile 2H Neptune in Cap
>Strong trine to 8H Mars in Cancer

I am curious about the last one. What do you think it means for such a karmic planet to be connected to such a sexual and Scorpionic planet in my chart? I've always wondered what the power of my 8H Mars trine 12H Pluto could be. Sometimes I wonder if it means an amazing ability to escape self-destruction or death since Mars opposes Neptune and Uranus and squares my Mercury too. What do you think?

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posted November 24, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
As you know I have 12th house Pluto in Scorpio.

Here are the aspects it makes:
>Sextile MC so sextile IC, right? Explains a lot about my volatile childhood if so, since Mars in the 8th also makes this aspect
>Sextile 2H Neptune in Cap
>Strong trine to 8H Mars in Cancer

I am curious about the last one. What do you think it means for such a karmic planet to be connected to such a sexual and Scorpionic planet in my chart? I've always wondered what the power of my 8H Mars trine 12H Pluto could be. Sometimes I wonder if it means an amazing ability to escape self-destruction or death since Mars opposes Neptune and Uranus and squares my Mercury too. What do you think?



12th House Pluto trine Mars in cancer in the 8th.

Well, a Cancer Mars is an impotent mars. I have one, too. It is in the Fall so does not express passion, anger or other drives well. You have it in the 8th which makes you Scorpio like so you are interested in taboo things and your drive is to explore taboo emotions and taboo sexuality.


The trine would help your cancer mars be more potent as Pluto gives it power.

Yet, Pluto is hidden due to the 12th house.

I would say that you have lots of hidden primal passions and maybe a secret fantasy life( or real secret life) which is kind of separate from your "normal" or overt life.

I would say that you are not driven crazy by this, yet do feel a stress that you kind of have a compartmentalized life.

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posted November 28, 2012 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waitingforyou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!
I have 12th house mars in cancer.....does that make it doubly negative ?

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posted November 28, 2012 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi!
I have 12th house mars in cancer.....does that make it doubly negative ?


Welcome WFY
Yes, that would make it double negative lol
However, you have to see if the Mars is within 10 degrees of the ASC, as that would make it conj the ASC, for practical purposes.

I have Mars in cancer so know how sluggish it is and how it hates conflict, dealing with drives, assertion etc

My father has a Cancer Mars in the 12th and he has a terrible time standing up for anything

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posted November 28, 2012 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Welcome WFY
Yes, that would make it double negative lol
However, you have to see if the Mars is within 10 degrees of the ASC, as that would make it conj the ASC, for practical purposes.

I have Mars in cancer so know how sluggish it is and how it hates conflict, dealing with drives, assertion etc

My father has a Cancer Mars in the 12th and he has a terrible time standing up for anything


i too have mars in cancer

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posted November 28, 2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waitingforyou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Welcome WFY
Yes, that would make it double negative lol
However, you have to see if the Mars is within 10 degrees of the ASC, as that would make it conj the ASC, for practical purposes.


its semi sextile ascendant.
But i have sun square mars and mars trine pluto. Also mars opposite uranus and neptune.
Do these aspects help?

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posted November 28, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waitingforyou:
its semi sextile ascendant.
But i have sun square mars and mars trine pluto. Also mars opposite uranus and neptune.
Do these aspects help?


I don't really look at the semi sextile as it must be extracted from deeply buried layers. It can be done, for sure, but it is a struggle.

Sun sq Mars would make it hard for you to express your drives, so this would push you back more into inaction, in a way. OTOH, you may get so frustrated that you explode. Does that happen?

Mars tine Pluto is power!! This would make your Mars strong.

Mars oppose Neptune could weaken it with rose colored glasses that may color your drive and expressions of anger. You may feel like you have to be too spiritual and struggle with that. Is that true?

Mars oppose Uranus may make it hard for you to stick to your drives as you want lots of change. What do you think?

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posted November 28, 2012 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Gemini on the 12th house which is a rather bad position for Mars I think

Aspects:
Mars trine Sun
Mars trine Saturn
Mars trine N.Node
Mars square MC


I would like to know more about my 12th house and my Mars
What do you think?

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posted November 28, 2012 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waitingforyou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I don't really look at the semi sextile as it must be extracted from deeply buried layers. It can be done, for sure, but it is a struggle.

Sun sq Mars would make it hard for you to express your drives, so this would push you back more into inaction, in a way. OTOH, you may get so frustrated that you explode. Does that happen?

Mars tine Pluto is power!! This would make your Mars strong.

Mars oppose Neptune could weaken it with rose colored glasses that may color your drive and expressions of anger. You may feel like you have to be too spiritual and struggle with that. Is that true?

Mars oppose Uranus may make it hard for you to stick to your drives as you want lots of change. What do you think?



i pretty much agree with what you said...AND i'm glad mars trine pluto is the closest in orb !

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posted December 02, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

12th House Pluto trine Mars in cancer in the 8th.

Well, a Cancer Mars is an impotent mars. I have one, too. It is in the Fall so does not express passion, anger or other drives well. You have it in the 8th which makes you Scorpio like so you are interested in taboo things and your drive is to explore taboo emotions and taboo sexuality.

The trine would help your cancer mars be more potent as Pluto gives it power.

Yet, Pluto is hidden due to the 12th house.

I would say that you have lots of hidden primal passions and maybe a secret fantasy life( or real secret life) which is kind of separate from your "normal" or overt life.

I would say that you are not driven crazy by this, yet do feel a stress that you kind of have a compartmentalized life.

How did I do


This makes so much sense! A hidden fantasy world.... it's made even worse by the Mars-Neptune opposition. I have an inner sanctuary and a very vivid and imaginative one. I'm also quite powerful and intense romantically but I don't appear that way on the surface or when you first meet me, despite seeming a little flirtatious when the 'ice queen' part melts away, or the aloof humor is gone [Sag rising, Saturn sq. ASC].

My inner world fuels my creativity. But it has also hurt me. I always feel partners must live up to a certain expectation and sometimes they don't. I feel like I am a 'bad' person for being so intense romantically/sexually, from Mars-Pluto, sometimes, especially since my Mars is directly on a Black Hole.

I also feel that all of the above has contributed to my 'weird' personality... besides having Uranus-MC. It just makes me strange and seem weird in my opinion, but in a really intriguing and mysterious way. I feel like these aspects/placements make me alluring to people, but sometimes 'dark' and 'bizarre'. If I described it creatively, it would be: 'A woman is walking inside a normal place like a supermarket, but intense, aqua-violet-black waves in her aura roll off of her, and permeate the air... she seems like she would be shocking [literally] to touch yet pleasant to touch at the same time... her eyes are shifty and mysterious...' LOL my overactive imagination.

Also, my Mars is quintile my Sun and sextile my MC. Can't keep it out of the public eye!! Ahhh. :'0 haha

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posted December 02, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So glad it made sense. I am stretching myself, lately, to be more direct and more honest and reach more into Astrology and my own intuition, so I appreciate your feedback SS

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posted December 02, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So glad it made sense. I am stretching myself, lately, to be more direct and more honest and reach more into Astrology and my own intuition, so I appreciate your feedback SS


No problem Ami! I'm glad that you're pushing yourself. I think only good things will come of it. I always tell people with gifts that pushing yourself will really benefit you... even when you have inborn talent it can always improve further! Trying to channel that intuitive sense is EXACTly what I am doing right now... as I am trying to learn how to access my empath abilities more strongly than ever before, and also to gain more intuition for my tarot card readings. I've certainly improved over time, but like you, I'm going to keep trying.

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posted December 02, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
No problem Ami! I'm glad that you're pushing yourself. I think only good things will come of it. I always tell people with gifts that pushing yourself will really benefit you... even when you have inborn talent it can always improve further! Trying to channel that intuitive sense is EXACTly what I am doing right now... as I am trying to learn how to access my empath abilities more strongly than ever before, and also to gain more intuition for my tarot card readings. I've certainly improved over time, but like you, I'm going to keep trying.


Thank you SS
I think our inner shame and fear stops us. It stops me. Doing creative writing, as I have been doing, is forcing me to look at my deepest desires, fear and shame URGGH

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In my 12th house of Capricorn I have my sun, neptune and juno.
Sun conjunct Neptune
Neptune conjunct Juno
sun and neptune opposite lilith....
(there are lots more aspects but I'll just include these for now)
I would say this effects me in that I like to meditate and can sometimes seek to escape reality. I don't think the physical reality is more real than what happens when I meditate. In my past I used drugs and alcohol as in escape and I have seen Sun and Neptune in the 12th house as a possible indicator of this. I am not very close to anyone although a lot of people know and like me. (Sometimes I'm not sure if this is because of my past of hiding intense Scorpio moon/venus feelings as I'm still differentiating.) I do have a love/hate relationship with my ego aka receiving praise. It can be painful and embarassing but I like it at the same time. I am constantly aware of my ego talking to me and I seek to turn it off even when it is just being normal and trying to get me to succeed because I innately feel there is something wrong with it....I don't know...these are just my ideas how this effects me. Love to hear from more people.

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Gemini is in my 12th House but, I don't have any planets there. What does that mean?

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posted January 12, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leap Year Pisces:
Gemini is in my 12th House but, I don't have any planets there. What does that mean?


If you don't have any 12th House planets, then you would not have the interpretation of the 12th House for them and so, this would not be your issue.

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posted January 12, 2013 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
In my 12th house of Capricorn I have my sun, neptune and juno.
Sun conjunct Neptune
Neptune conjunct Juno
sun and neptune opposite lilith....
(there are lots more aspects but I'll just include these for now)
I would say this effects me in that I like to meditate and can sometimes seek to escape reality. I don't think the physical reality is more real than what happens when I meditate. In my past I used drugs and alcohol as in escape and I have seen Sun and Neptune in the 12th house as a possible indicator of this. I am not very close to anyone although a lot of people know and like me. (Sometimes I'm not sure if this is because of my past of hiding intense Scorpio moon/venus feelings as I'm still differentiating.) I do have a love/hate relationship with my ego aka receiving praise. It can be painful and embarassing but I like it at the same time. I am constantly aware of my ego talking to me and I seek to turn it off even when it is just being normal and trying to get me to succeed because I innately feel there is something wrong with it....I don't know...these are just my ideas how this effects me. Love to hear from more people.


Are any of your 12th house planets within 10 degrees of the ASC. If so, I call them first house. If not,they are true 12h House and it is very hard! You are forced to become a very deep person

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Hi Ami Anne

I have a 12th house Pluto conjunct the north node. I have had through my whole life transformations after transformations, all these have been for the better and I feel like I'm a completely different person from when I started out. My 12th house Pluto, I feel, strips away from my soul things that are of no real value or use to me and I'm very glad of the changes (even if most of it has been somewhat emotionally traumatic). I also think that my Pluto has protected me from serious harm, like a guardian angel. I hope this helps.

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posted January 14, 2013 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Are any of your 12th house planets within 10 degrees of the ASC. If so, I call them first house. If not,they are true 12h House and it is very hard! You are forced to become a very deep person



No but they may be within 10 degrees the other way. Would that make a difference?

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posted January 20, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muddyt0es     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 12th house starts at 11 Degrees Virgo.

Mars is just outside of my 12th house, at 9 degrees Virgo.

Sun is 14 degrees.
Venus is 18 degrees.
Mercury is 29 degrees.

My 1st house begins at 6 degrees Libra.
Also, of note, Saturn is at 14 degrees Sagittarius (in my 3rd house) and (depending on how wide you let your orbs go) squares the bulk of my 12th house.

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posted January 20, 2013 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for muddyt0es     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RE: my 12th house Virgo Stellium (Sun, Venus, Merc [and Mars if you want to stretch it a little ])

I definitely think I am a private person. I was very quiet and shy in high school, often people thought I was a snob (or less nicely put, a bxtch) but I just kept to myself. I often over analyze how a conversation will go so much to the point I don't even have a conversation. Very intuitive and good at reading people.

I have overcome my shyness to a certain degree. I work in Customer Service and am described as "bubbley" quite frequently. Aquaintances would say I'm open, but it tends to be about very superficial things. I learned that people like if you share details, even shallow things. Very *VERY* few people know the inner me, and from those that I share the most with...I still have some dark secrets I keep hidden.

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Originally posted by muddyt0es:
RE: my 12th house Virgo Stellium (Sun, Venus, Merc [and Mars if you want to stretch it a little ])

I definitely think I am a private person. I was very quiet and shy in high school, often people thought I was a snob (or less nicely put, a bxtch) but I just kept to myself. I often over analyze how a conversation will go so much to the point I don't even have a conversation. Very intuitive and good at reading people.

I have overcome my shyness to a certain degree. I work in Customer Service and am described as "bubbley" quite frequently. Aquaintances would say I'm open, but it tends to be about very superficial things. I learned that people like if you share details, even shallow things. Very *VERY* few people know the inner me, and from those that I share the most with...I still have some dark secrets I keep hidden.


Wow this sounds totally like me, a 12th house venus,Sun, mercury in gemini guy here..this is why i still hold faith in astrology lol.

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