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Ami Anne
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posted April 14, 2012 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Full Seventh Houseó-Loss of Identity?
By amiann | Published: January 7, 2012

I was contemplating the Seventh House, as that of the ďotherĒ. In doing charts, I have seen that people with a full Seventh House may feel a lack of personal identity and look for it in a partner. This makes sense. If one has any planet in the Seventh, one may look to find the qualities of this planet in a partner. If one has Venus in the Seventh House, one may not feel love for oneself until a partner mirrors love.If one has the Sun in the Seventh House, one may find his identity in the partner. If one has Mars in the Seventh House, one may use the partner as the anger rod while oneís own anger stays submerged. If one has Pluto in the Seventh, one may find oneís passion in the arms of a lover, only, and not be connected to oneí s primal self, otherwise. If one has the moon in the Seventh, one may not feel a connection to oneí s emotions, unless in a relationship. One may look for an emotional partner. If one has Uranus in the Seventh, oneís rebellion may be submerged as one finds a rebellious and lets him act it out. If one has Jupiter, here, one may look for an optimistic, jovial partner .One may not be able to access this side of oneself, without the help of the partner. If one has Saturn, here, one may look for a task master. One may not be disciplined without the help of a Father-figure kind of partner.Asteroids open up a plethora of avenues. I will explore that in another article.

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posted April 14, 2012 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This makes a lot of sense. I actually just helped interpret someone's chart here who had a lot of stress aspects to a 7th house sun, and NN in the 2nd house. What did that say for them? To me, it was very clear: you are one who finds your identity in a partner, but your destiny is to make something of your own, lest you want to have troubles or unhappiness at times in your life concerning this area. Independence vs. Dependence is a very hard thing to deal with in life.

I actually go through the same thing myself. I don't have a single 7th house planet. In fact, I pretty much have houses 4-7 totally empty. These areas are not void of importance in my life... just not THE most important areas. Yet at the same time I have the SN in Taurus in house 5, and the NN in Scorpio in house 11. This is telling me that I need to stop relying just on myself, and merge spiritually with groups. But this has been a difficult time for me, because many 11th house planets go either way; you find the group or groups of your dreams to revolutionize, or you inevitably get cast out of many cliques and social circles. This is a trap, when being cast out, to go back to the SN's ways of ultra-Leonian independence! So I think the issues of independence vs. dependence are very touchy for people and can cause much issues in life. It's like waging an inner war: am I better off WITH them, or WITHOUT them? Sometimes it's hard to tell, especially if your placements indicate you shift back and forth between identifying with others, and going at it alone.

I think having Venus and Saturn - especially together - in the 7th would be a struggle.

I usually use Kurt Cobain as an example when I talk about that one. He had a difficult time with his love life. Most of his partners were very, very maternal, or practical, and seemed more grounded and down-to-earth than he was with certain things. One girlfriend Tracy Marander attested to this, and how she could see the problems he had that he ignored. I imagine that someone with Venus and Saturn, especially in conjunction in the 7th house, would be looking for a love to not only fill the missing half of their identity but someone who could take care of them with more menial and earthy tasks... the tasks of life which are concrete and not always fun to deal with.

Note Kurt was a very intuitive, sometimes hypomanic artist and musician... his girlfriends sometimes were musicians, but never totally like him. And when he went with someone more like himself, Ms. Love, he ended up committing suicide because it seems he couldn't get the fulfillment he needed due to having Saturn in the 7th house. That was, of course, just the tip of the iceberg of why he ended up so depressive, but such a relationship obviously did NOT help. They were very much the same, and no one seemed to play the 'mentor' or 'father' role in that union consistently. That's just my interpretation.

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I've never fully understood how the 7th house can be about the other when it's in your chart. I always feel that more than saying something about my partners, it has to say something about me in some way.

Now, I'm no expert in this field but the way I experience my seventh house is more in a "the way I act in my relationships" "what you'll discover about me if you get to interact with me and to know me". I think it makes sense considering how the sventh house is opposite the first. An to me the first house is all about your self image. What you acknowledge about yourself and thus what appears to be very obvious about you to others. On the contrary, the seventh house is all about you in the context of a relationship, it 's a part of yourself that you acknowledge less because you get to discover it through your close relations to others.

I'll take myself as an example so I can give more accuracy to what I am saying. I'm a cancer ascendant with moon mercuy conjunct my descendant and I also have venus in the seventh. When people see me for the first time, they get the impression that I'm a nice, maybe vulnerable girl, and the fact that I am quiet and reserved (I blame the cap for that) make them think that I am shy. But that's only how I come off to others when they don't know me. In my relationship, I am really talkative, and caring, and my way to care for peple is to be there and work their issues out with them, which involves a lot of listening, counseling, emotions sharing, discussing those emotions, and analizing of our emotional make-up. And I love doing this because that's who I am in the context of a relationship and I can never get close to people who don't let me do this, and who don't do it with me (I don't feel as comfortable with them as with people I know who can confide in me and who I can confide in). As for venus in the seventh, I have found that I dont relate well to groups of friends, I am really bad at it, I appreciate having a one on one interaction with someone and getting to know them. And I guess it makes ense since venus is the ruler of my eleventh house.

However I find that there is a very odd pattern in that most people I am close to, and all my family members have mainly gemini, virgo, taurus, libra, and cancer influence in their personal planets.

So I don't know if any of what I've written above makes sense but to me I've never looked for others to be emotional so I could be emotional, to express love so I could do it. To me planets in the seventh describe the way I relate to people in my close personal relationship.

I've also tried to pinpoint the descendant, as I don't find the usual "your marriage partner" interpretation to be helpful, especially for synastry interpretation purpose but I haven't come to something that feels right and makes enough sense to me. I was thinking maybe it shows an essential quality we display in our close relationship?

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posted April 15, 2012 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will come back and study what you wrote and we can talk about it. I learn the most about Astrology from discussion and doing charts. One cannot get to be good in Astrology on one's own, I don't think.

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posted April 15, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, you're right, larning mostly come with practicing
I myself don't know much, and I find it especially to difficult to grasp the meaning of a planet placed in a specific house. What I previously wrote was only me trying to link my chart with what I know about myself.

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posted April 18, 2012 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Full Seventh Houseó-Loss of Identity?
By amiann | Published: January 7, 2012

I was contemplating the Seventh House, as that of the ďotherĒ. In doing charts, I have seen that people with a full Seventh House may feel a lack of personal identity and look for it in a partner. This makes sense. If one has any planet in the Seventh, one may look to find the qualities of this planet in a partner. If one has Venus in the Seventh House, one may not feel love for oneself until a partner mirrors love.If one has the Sun in the Seventh House, one may find his identity in the partner. If one has Mars in the Seventh House, one may use the partner as the anger rod while oneís own anger stays submerged. If one has Pluto in the Seventh, one may find oneís passion in the arms of a lover, only, and not be connected to oneí s primal self, otherwise. If one has the moon in the Seventh, one may not feel a connection to oneí s emotions, unless in a relationship. One may look for an emotional partner. If one has Uranus in the Seventh, oneís rebellion may be submerged as one finds a rebellious and lets him act it out. If one has Jupiter, here, one may look for an optimistic, jovial partner .One may not be able to access this side of oneself, without the help of the partner. If one has Saturn, here, one may look for a task master. One may not be disciplined without the help of a Father-figure kind of partner.Asteroids open up a plethora of avenues. I will explore that in another article.



This is a perfect interpretation. I have a stellium in the 7th house and I have not been single since I was 18 years old. I spent my high school years single and I don't think it's a coincidence that I spent them depressed and feeling isolated (I was also inspired and wrote some truly beautiful poetry as a result of my depression). The end of a relationship feels like a death to me, I become submerged in grief. The sudden end of the relationship with my ex (Gemini) led to me being in the ER with panic attacks. I could not eat or sleep and quickly lost 10 pounds. I began having heart palpitations on the way to work and took myself to the hospital for sleeping pills/anti-anxiety medications. I had literally let him become my entire world. His friends were my friends. When he left it felt like he was taking my identify with him. I had moved to a sketchy part of town just to live nearer to him. Now, there was no reason for me to be there.

I wouldn't wish a loaded seventh house on anyone. Aquarians are supposed to be independent - for me that manifests in being resistant to peer pressure and most trends only. I am completely dependent in terms of being able to stand on my own, without a partner. I feel like I've been robbed of my essence as an Aquarian.

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posted April 18, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If one has Venus in the Seventh House, one may not feel love for oneself until a partner mirrors love.


I found this part to be especially apt.


The only part I disagree with is the Jupiter in the 7th interpretation. I find that I don't literally require an optimistic partner to access that side of myself, but rather, being in a relationship brings my optimism to the forefront and then it becomes possible for me to be optimistic and to cheer my partner up. I have Sun conjunct Jupiter so generally speaking life shouldn't get me down and it usually doesn't, with the one exception: I need to either be coupled, or feel that the prospects are good/a new relationship is just over the horizon, otherwise as I said, I sink quickly into depression. I never thought of it in astrological terms to be frank, I always thought of it as being chemical. I thought I was merely an oxytocin addict in need of a perpetual fix. But it's deeper than that. It speaks to personal issues/values. I could very well have been one of those girls that gets her feeling of bondedness and being valued from a close-knit group of girlfriends and whom doesn't need a man to be happy, but I'm not. I also have far more appreciation for one-on-one interaction than is typical for an Aquarian, I think. I like being in crowds, sure, and being in a busy area alone feels natural to me (also typical for Aquarians), but I really feel nourished by one-on-one time, which I think is the seventh house manifestation.

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posted April 18, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquacheeka
You seem to be saying you are NOT saying it is true while saying it is true

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posted April 18, 2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is pretty easy to gauge whether you give your power away or not. If you own it, you attract it. If you don't u r attracted by it. Not necessarily black and white as u can do both.

Venus in 7th receives accidental dignity in this house. To not want a planet that rules that house IN THAT house is abit whack yo! It's like saying u don't want to be graceful Rofl!

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I actually go through the same thing myself. I don't have a single 7th house planet. In fact, I pretty much have houses 4-7 totally empty.

Because it is not a 7th house thing??

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I've never fully understood how the 7th house can be about the other when it's in your chart. I always feel that more than saying something about my partners, it has to say something about me in some way.

Exactly, 7th house planets r urs. If u gots it flaunt it!

It does rule open enemies too..

http://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/2011/04/30/venus-rules-the-7th-house/

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I wouldn't wish a loaded seventh house on anyone.

Is the aqua sun in h7? I think it would be doubly airy if so.

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posted April 18, 2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is the aqua sun in h7? I think it would be doubly airy if so.


Yes, sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter all in the seventh.

Perhaps it's a "dignified" placement but it doesn't feel natural as an Aquarian. Remember, dignified or not, it's still in opposition to my essence.

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posted April 18, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Yes, sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter all in the seventh.

Perhaps it's a "dignified" placement but it doesn't feel natural as an Aquarian. Remember, dignified or not, it's still in opposition to my essence.


Technically sun is not dignified in 7th. It's in the house of it's fall and aqua sun is in detriment. Venus tho is at home in the 7th. But some feel the sun shines just wherever it is.

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My ascendant is Leo. I'm assuming Leo is a comfortable place for an ascendant. I don't know which sign is supposed to represent the ascendant's 'natural home,' but I assumed it was Leo tbh.

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posted April 19, 2012 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if the ASC has a natural home. I don't think it does.

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posted April 25, 2012 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, should I feel lucky having an empty 7th house?

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posted April 25, 2012 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, should I feel lucky having an empty 7th house?

Probably lol

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posted April 25, 2012 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
My ascendant is Leo. I'm assuming Leo is a comfortable place for an ascendant. I don't know which sign is supposed to represent the ascendant's 'natural home,' but I assumed it was Leo tbh.


I don't think Leo is a wonderful place for an ASC. I think it is one of the hardest places for an ASC, actually. This is my opinion, so take it as such. This ASC seems as if it cannot be one with others. This ASC seems as if it must grab center stage. As such, it alienates people. However, it does not know why. This ASC seem as if it has a blindness to it's own ego. For me, personally, I think it is the hardest ASC to have or the one that I would choose least of all, anyway.


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I dont think there are a asc that is more difficult to have than others. My asc in sagg is a bit difficult to me in that way that my moon is in scorpio and like to controll things and build nests and my sagg asc wants to be free and travel around. My gemni sun is killing my moon sometimes because it support the sagg. I am my worst enemy when it comes to hurt feelings

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posted April 26, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dont think there are a asc that is more difficult to have than others. My asc in sagg is a bit difficult to me in that way that my moon is in scorpio and like to controll things and build nests and my sagg asc wants to be free and travel around. My gemni sun is killing my moon sometimes because it support the sagg. I am my worst enemy when it comes to hurt feelings


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Thanks for your article, itís an interesting topic, and I find all of that to be pretty true. I have Sun-Saturn and NN in 7th house. Neptune is on the 7th house cusp. Itís definitely a weak spot for me, so I donít especially like talking about it or admitting to it, but I think these are some of my most challenging placements. I think the issues I have with one on one relationships stems from childhood, although I know someone with a different personality may have reacted very differently to the same environment-my sister is a perfect example of that.

Anyway, the only way for me to really understand it is by examining my past. My parents had a VERY co-dependent relationship. They eventually got divorced, but my mom has gone on to repeat the same patterns in future relationships, and has tried to suck me in to the drama every step of the way. I learned to put up a lot of walls, and was afraid of expressing my real opinions and needs, in fear that they would be ignored, laughed at, or used against me in some way. I felt that by hiding my identity, I was protecting myself, but as Iíve learned, the things you hide from other people, you also begin to hide from yourself.

I think this has been called the house of co-dependency, because if you canít integrate these parts of yourself into your own self-image, and always need validation from someone else to acknowledge them, you obviously become dependent on their support and opinions of you. All my planets here are in Cap, and my ascendant is Cancer. I would very much like to ignore the 1st house/7th house, Cancer/Cap polarities these placements are trying to teach me about, but I really canít since my NN is here. My worst fear in life would be turning into my parents, and sacrificing all the goals and positive things in my life by becoming trapped in some sort of dysfunctional, co-dependent marriage or relationship. From what Iíve witnessed, this type of addiction can destroy lives just as much as addiction to any other drug or substance. Maybe this is where Saturn comes in- I donít want to get married or settle down until Iíve established a life for myself where I am happy and self-sufficient without depending on someone else. But sometimes I feel like I still have a long road ahead of me, because I know thereís a fine line between independence and isolation, and Iím not always good at walking it. I know I need to become re-acquainted with the parts of myself I blocked off long ago, so that I can safely share them with other people without being too guarded or needing their approval. Astrology has helped me make sense of these sort of things.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, I just thought I would share my experience of the 7th house as I understand it. Iím hoping that since I have Saturn and Sun (wide orb) conjunct NN here, even though these are very difficult issues for me, that with enough work and self-awareness Iíll be able to overcome them and break the cycleÖ

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I have sun conjunct venus in 7th house and I have always been on a search fore a soulmate. Actually the first thing I do when I am with new people (work/classes/organisations)is to look after the one I will be close with. I always hit it right with my scorpio moon. To me it doesnt have to be a romantic relationship, but I do crave soulmates

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posted April 26, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for your article, itís an interesting topic, and I find all of that to be pretty true. I have Sun-Saturn and NN in 7th house. Neptune is on the 7th house cusp. Itís definitely a weak spot for me, so I donít especially like talking about it or admitting to it, but I think these are some of my most challenging placements. I think the issues I have with one on one relationships stems from childhood, although I know someone with a different personality may have reacted very differently to the same environment-my sister is a perfect example of that.

Anyway, the only way for me to really understand it is by examining my past. My parents had a VERY co-dependent relationship. They eventually got divorced, but my mom has gone on to repeat the same patterns in future relationships, and has tried to suck me in to the drama every step of the way. I learned to put up a lot of walls, and was afraid of expressing my real opinions and needs, in fear that they would be ignored, laughed at, or used against me in some way. I felt that by hiding my identity, I was protecting myself, but as Iíve learned, the things you hide from other people, you also begin to hide from yourself.

I think this has been called the house of co-dependency, because if you canít integrate these parts of yourself into your own self-image, and always need validation from someone else to acknowledge them, you obviously become dependent on their support and opinions of you. All my planets here are in Cap, and my ascendant is Cancer. I would very much like to ignore the 1st house/7th house, Cancer/Cap polarities these placements are trying to teach me about, but I really canít since my NN is here. My worst fear in life would be turning into my parents, and sacrificing all the goals and positive things in my life by becoming trapped in some sort of dysfunctional, co-dependent marriage or relationship. From what Iíve witnessed, this type of addiction can destroy lives just as much as addiction to any other drug or substance. Maybe this is where Saturn comes in- I donít want to get married or settle down until Iíve established a life for myself where I am happy and self-sufficient without depending on someone else. But sometimes I feel like I still have a long road ahead of me, because I know thereís a fine line between independence and isolation, and Iím not always good at walking it. I know I need to become re-acquainted with the parts of myself I blocked off long ago, so that I can safely share them with other people without being too guarded or needing their approval. Astrology has helped me make sense of these sort of things.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, I just thought I would share my experience of the 7th house as I understand it. Iím hoping that since I have Saturn and Sun (wide orb) conjunct NN here, even though these are very difficult issues for me, that with enough work and self-awareness Iíll be able to overcome them and break the cycleÖ



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I have sun conjunct venus in 7th house and I have always been on a search fore a soulmate. Actually the first thing I do when I am with new people (work/classes/organisations)is to look after the one I will be close with. I always hit it right with my scorpio moon. To me it doesnt have to be a romantic relationship, but I do crave soulmates


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This is an interesting topic for me--I was recently examining my chart again

I have mercury (in 00"54 capricorn), jupiter, and neptune conjunct in sagittarius in the 7th house.

I think the 7th house is other people, your relationships (and expectations) for others, and your hopes about what those qualities can do for you!

For instance, I think (mercury) a lot about relationships (friends, family, people, and communication.) I also have very spiritual (neptune) relationships with my friends--we often pray together, discuss spiritual matters and many of my friends encourage my creativity (neptune).

Now, Jupiter in the 7th--that's something else---so MUCH faith in other people! Faith in relationships (along with neptune and mercury) can lead to high expectations!

All of this is opposed my Gemini ascendant of course...but I've never truly understood what that is supposed to mean....when I look for interpretations it ALWAYS says something bad about neptune (neptune isn't THAT bad it gives allure, glamour, creativity and spirituality!)and it always says something about mercury wanting to agree with others just for the sake of it. (I don't agree! LOL)

Anyway, just my take on things....!

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I'll be blunt. The 7th house or one full of planets does not mean 'loss of identity.' Some people behaving co-dependently may lose their identity, but this is not the essence or the purpose of planets in the 7th house.

7th house planets mean it is important that you be actively involved with others. When there are fire planets there it means you are energized and brought out of yourself by involvement with others. Water planets are more subtle. This will act differently in an introvert's chart than in an extrovert's. And it will seem to be a different dynamic when a person has no self-esteem.

Self-love is far more fundamental than anything in our birth charts. It is important that we not skew interpretation (which is based on underlying purpose, Soul's intention) because of co-dependent or adaptive behaviors, thus either justifying them or locking ourselves into a 'fate' or struggle that isn't necessarily even written in the birth chart.

A person cannot lose their identity, only fail to remember who/what they are - A Spark of the One Divine, A Piece of the Absolute. Feeling as if you have lost your identity in this kind of co-dependent way means you are valuing others more than yourself and living without awareness of your power!

Treat yourself as if you are equal in worth and you can have all the 7th house planets a chart can fit without co-dependency or loss of any kind. Part of what is being described here to start the thread is the karma that many people bring in within the chart. It is good to learn the lesson: Love, and get on to the greater purposes than to see the birth chart as something that keeps us stuck. It does not.

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You and I see things differently, Kannon. That is fine with me, as there are many different astrological viewpoints, as there are many different religious viewpoints.

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