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Jessica2407
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posted January 04, 2013 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ASC is capricorn so the DSC is Cancer so Cancer would be my H7,right? but why is it that Leo is said to be my 7th House? I have quite a packed 7th house and all planets are in Leo.

According to this chart am I correct in saying that Capricorn is my ASC and my 12th house too?? Or am I reading it wrong?

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posted January 04, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The House systems can be different. There are 2 main ones. I never did much with the House Systems but things can seem a little screwy, as the houses are not equal in Placidus ( I think that is how you spell it)

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posted January 04, 2013 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The House systems can be different. There are 2 main ones. I never did much with the House Systems but things can seem a little screwy, as the houses are not equal in Placidus ( I think that is how you spell it)


Actually I have selected 'equal' on the drop down next to House System.

so what is my H7? Leo or Cancer?

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posted January 04, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say Cancer. I would like to hear other people's opinions, though, as I am not totally sure.

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posted January 04, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually, it is cancer. You have to look at the House Lines, not the SIGN lines, but it is confusing!

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posted January 05, 2013 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
actually, it is cancer. You have to look at the House Lines, not the SIGN lines, but it is confusing!


yeah it is, but even if I look at the House Lines, it would still be Leo. Check out the grid at the bottom, Saturn, Mercury, Venus, Sun In LEO HOUSE # 7.

I would like to know what other think too.

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posted January 05, 2013 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking Leo

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Jessica2407
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posted January 05, 2013 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I'm thinking Leo

hehe...lol...

actually am more of a Leo. I read the descriptions on Venus Leo, Mercury and Saturn, I relate to them 100%.

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posted January 07, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The planets are in leo in the seventh house, but the seventh house "is in cancer", because it is the house cusp that counts, the division line between the houses 6 and 7. So when interpreting about the sign in houses, referring to the 7th house, you read about cancer in the 7th, and then all those planets in the 7th, and then all those planets in Leo, then the aspects and so on. This is what I learnt on my own, I never studied astrology.

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posted January 08, 2013 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my 7th house is cancer but all my planets are in Leo???

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posted January 08, 2013 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes !

I have it too.
For example, my 6 H cusp is aquarius, but I have jupiter in the 6 H in pisces. But after researching I realized my 6H is really ruled by aquarius.

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posted January 09, 2013 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by flowerpower:
Yes !

I have it too.
For example, my 6 H cusp is aquarius, but I have jupiter in the 6 H in pisces. But after researching I realized my 6H is really ruled by aquarius.


That means my 7th house ruler ( moon )is in cancer-House 7?

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posted January 09, 2013 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
That means my 7th house ruler ( moon )is in cancer-House 7?

Your moon is in house 6

Looks like it is critical at zero degrees. Zero and twenty-nine degrees of each sign is considered critical, beginning and ending.

Your moon is more influential because of this.

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posted January 09, 2013 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Your moon is in house 6

Looks like it is critical at zero degrees. Zero and twenty-nine degrees of each sign is considered critical, beginning and ending.

Your moon is more influential because of this.


is that something good or bad?

My moon is in Gemini then not cancer??

which one is stronger saturn or sun?

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posted January 09, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see a 7th house influence in your chart with Leo prominent though it does not rule your 7th. Cancer is barely hanging on, lol, as ruler but make no mistake, Leo is also powerful in this house since it is covering most of it.

The sun conjuncts several planets in your 7th house. Partnerships will be very important to you in life. You can consider this large stellium to be a focal point for you.

You have Saturn close to the sun, about four degrees separates them. Saturn is weaker in Leo, while the sun is very strong. Saturn rules Aquarius, opposite Leo which is why it is considered weaker in Leo. You take yourself very, very seriously and will dominate any relationship you have. There could be some ego conflicts in your relationships as well. Sun is the strongest influence here, over Saturn.

You also have two planets in exact conjunction (they are still part of the stellium in Leo) Mercury and Venus. Venus also loves to be in house 7! This is a good position for any partnership. You will enjoy communicating with any partner and will be very beneficial to you. Be wary of becoming depressed and kinda down in the dumps tho, with Saturn so close, you might want to guard against being too negative in your communications since it takes away from this lovely Mercury/Venus conjunction which will help you in any communications with others.

The planet Uranus is in your chart close to the MC and in house 10 providing a square to your stellium. It is in the sign Scorpio. This type of aspect can cause sudden changes in your life and can mean you are eccentric and definitely, you want to have control of your life and you want to be the center of it all. You might experience career changes that are sudden and will impact those near you. The Uranian impact will be felt in areas of partnership and careers. Uranus conjuncts the MC with an orb that is wide and from a different sign.

MC is in Libra.

Ascending degree is in the sign Capricorn, so Saturn is the ruler and it is weaker by sign, stronger by house and conjunct the sign but square a tenth house Uranus.

All this means tread carefully around others and be aware sudden changes will affect you deeply.

You have the nice aspect between Sun and Taurus Jupiter about to enter the sign Gemini where your sun has just made it into Leo. This is a sextile aspect. Jupiter is in house 4, your family, particularly your father is very supportive and will be a help to you. It could be your mom who is the most beneficial since it is house 4 and the Venusian sign Taurus. Hard to tell with all these influences. Could be both are equally supportive of you. Just remember, Jupiter is a lovely planet that will help you in life. It is good fortune in the chart. This aspect is good for home ownership. Taurus can mean a lovely home with nice things inside. The home will be peppy and energetic with the Mars ruled Aries on the cusp tho.

You have Mars in 8th where it is also accidentally dignified as ruler of Scorpio, the sign that traditionally rules this particular house of joint resources, sex, death, transformation, regeneration, the occult, and secrets, to some extent.

The square from Mars to Neptune and the orb is very close, looks like less than 1 degree so be careful with this one! It will most likely involve male friends and since involves the 4th house Aries, be sure to buy a good security system for your house!

Neptune does make several lovely aspects (trines) to your stellium! You can expect to have a lot of fun with people but be wary, there could be some deception involved. All in all, it will be a pleasant time though! Very good for your relationships with others! Friends will get you through the difficult times brought by Uranus. Plenty of shoulders for you to cry and lean on!!

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posted January 09, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

is that something good or bad?

My moon is in Gemini then not cancer??

which one is stronger saturn or sun?



Critical degree is supposedly a bit more challenging than the other degrees of a sign and the influence of such a placement could be exaggerated in your life. The moon has just entered Cancer. It isn't even in the 1st degree yet. Since it is the ruler of house 7 and you have so many planets therein making so many aspects to everything it only reinforces the importance of the 7th house in your life. You are here to be with others and you will benefit so much through them!

Moon does have trouble with Pluto (square aspect with very wide orb) and it makes a trine to Uranus, the planet stirring up your stellium in Leo. The trine means you will have emotional support from people when these sudden changes occur in your life. You can navigate them with the help of others and are open to their support. You are an open person who will reach out when needed instead of holding everything in and relying only on yourself which is a success indicator.

Might want to keep an eye on moon transits if you have time. It takes a bit of time but could pay off with the critical moon degree. Might want to take it easy on the days the transiting moon harshly aspects natal moon with that Pluto square. Try not to get into arguments and avoid being impulsive at this time. Relax and do not get too emotionally drained or involved. Take time to really think and be rational about emotional issues. Be careful about anything that is considered high risk, even driving a vehicle.

Good news is the orb between moon and Pluto is very wide.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes! that's true, there are times I am super duper emotional...

would you say that Uranus is also another prominent planet in my chart? I feel very Uranian in any job I take for instance I'm always thinking of changing jobs...I don't like being tied to a job...so been wondering if that is due to Uranus..

'MC is in Libra.

Ascending degree is in the sign Capricorn, so Saturn is the ruler and it is weaker by sign, stronger by house and conjunct the sign but square a tenth house Uranus.

All this means tread carefully around others and be aware sudden changes will affect you deeply. '

you mean work colleagues?

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posted January 09, 2013 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I think so! You are going to be restless in your career but you know, I think you really need to be married and marriage is why you are here. It is your purpose, to experience a marriage and to feel at one with a partner. You might get divorced at some point and remarry though. You will have a lot of fun talking and enjoying things with your marriage partner. You might marry someone who is slightly older, or holds a position of authority, especially management. He will be serious and an authority of some kind with a lot of influence in some area. This will happen at some point but you might find yourself in a marriage that doesn't work out to someone who is not like this at first. This might be someone who is erratic and irresponsible which is why you will leave. Or, he could just leave himself, suddenly.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yeah, I think so! You are going to be restless in your career but you know, I think you really need to be married and marriage is why you are here. It is your purpose, to experience a marriage and to feel at one with a partner. You might get divorced at some point and remarry though. You will have a lot of fun talking and enjoying things with your marriage partner. You might marry someone who is slightly older, or holds a position of authority, especially management. He will be serious and an authority of some kind with a lot of influence in some area. This will happen at some point but you might find yourself in a marriage that doesn't work out to someone who is not like this at first. This might be someone who is erratic and irresponsible which is why you will leave. Or, he could just leave himself, suddenly.

I think so too, there is so much going on in H7!

But career wise, I want to be my own boss you know, a personal business, am always thinking in that line..do you find anything that might support such inclination?

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posted January 09, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you mean work colleagues? [/B]

With moon in house six of daily bread and work and the tenth house of career involved, tread carefully with coworkers. I see this trend in this site in charts. Other charts have had this situation with coworkers and being careful. I guess getting along with coworkers is an important part of people's lives. It can be a benefit studying how to get along with people. Lots of books deal with that subject and offer tips and in a chart where interactions at work are prominent, couldn't hurt to study books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and similar books. Never hurts to learn more about human relations if you spend a lot of time with others, I would think. Could mean a lot of success in so many areas of life! So far, from what I have seen, your skills are pretty good already. You seem friendly, cooperative, open and nice which is a big part of success with others.

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posted January 09, 2013 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
With moon in house six of daily bread and work and the tenth house of career involved, tread carefully with coworkers. I see this trend in this site in charts. Other charts have had this situation with coworkers and being careful. I guess getting along with coworkers is an important part of people's lives. It can be a benefit studying how to get along with people. Lots of books deal with that subject and offer tips and in a chart where interactions at work are prominent, couldn't hurt to study books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and similar books. Never hurts to learn more about human relations if you spend a lot of time with others, I would think. Could mean a lot of success in so many areas of life! So far, from what I have seen, your skills are pretty good already. You seem friendly, cooperative, open and nice which is a big part of success with others.

Yes, am good at observing people and I can adapt in any environment, and pretty good at making small talk..that is when I want to. LOL, but yes took me a few back stabbers to reach that stage of mingling with people but remaining emotionally unattached at the same time.

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posted January 09, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yeah, I think so! You are going to be restless in your career but you know, I think you really need to be married and marriage is why you are here. It is your purpose, to experience a marriage and to feel at one with a partner. You might get divorced at some point and remarry though. You will have a lot of fun talking and enjoying things with your marriage partner. You might marry someone who is slightly older, or holds a position of authority, especially management. He will be serious and an authority of some kind with a lot of influence in some area. This will happen at some point but you might find yourself in a marriage that doesn't work out to someone who is not like this at first. This might be someone who is erratic and irresponsible which is why you will leave. Or, he could just leave himself, suddenly.

already happened btw..the erratic and irresponsible someone....good thing he left...you are pretty good at this, aren't you?

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posted January 10, 2013 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since the moon is at a critical degree does it overpower the planet it gets aspected to?

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posted January 11, 2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Since the moon is at a critical degree does it overpower the planet it gets aspected to?

Yes, it works like that a bit. A critical body like the sun or moon, planet, point, NN, what-have-you is emphasized in the chart

Moon rules Cancer so that makes the moon more important. It's dominant. It rules angular house 7, too, a prominent, angular house.

You can look into how this moon factors into your life by observing current personal events and reflecting on the past.

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posted January 11, 2013 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yes, it works like that a bit. A critical body like the sun or moon, planet, point, NN, what-have-you is emphasized in the chart

Moon rules Cancer so that makes the moon more important. It's dominant. It rules angular house 7, too, a prominent, angular house.

You can look into how this moon factors into your life by observing current personal events and reflecting on the past.


yes! A lot of things have started making sense since you've explained those aspects to me, so am gonna watch out for these sudden blow ups of high voltage emotions

Thank you for the time and great insights

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