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Topic: ... But Then I Saw Him Again. (Meeting my Twin Flame for lunch)
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IndigoDirae
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posted June 01, 2014 12:22 AM
  
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Originally posted by mir:
Aaghh .. here comes my Aqua Mars to light. He has it also, not? Yea.. I remember
Nahnah... we don't like this, really.
We like to observe the bigger things but not ourselves. We spent many lives (not too literally plz) observing ourselves and we're DONE with it. Yea it MAKES us unhappy, just that. No more or less. Let us simply be. Or you'll find the rebel. Who's right who's wrong?
Aqua-Mars at 19,5.
Very interesting, mir. I mean this not at all in a sense of generalisation, but to me, that's echo of his ego. 'Don't show me the truth I don't want to see!' Hello, you're a SAG SUN! AND MOON! And MERC! Anyhow. I've no qualms with declaring the emperor's most clear state of undress. I can't say I really did make him feel as I had - I certainly never critiqued and analysed in the fashion I usually do. But his paranoia was fearsome. He was convinced I was manipulating him - somehow - and would hurt him terribly, and air his private vulnerabilities, and humiliate and disgrace him. His SCO SAT at the top of his chart, perhaps. Right on the MC, with KARMA. Or just his SCO SUN Dwad. Either way, more paranoia, cynicism, and mistrusting with fears of abandonment than any other Sagiquarians I know. And he's got plenty AQU, yes: 00° ASC, and a 1H VENUS-EROS, and MARS-PSYCHE; 10°-13° and 26° respectively. Perhaps I ought post the natal. I do wonder what drives his intense paranoia. Couldn't all be just background trauma. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 01, 2014 01:16 AM
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I mean this not at all in a sense of generalisation, but to me, that's echo of his ego. 'Don't show me the truth I don't want to see!'
Aqua would say/think/feel with every fiber of his being: What is the truth? Your truth, not mine. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted June 01, 2014 02:18 AM
I know I have a solid Scorpio taint, but remember that Sagittarius is all about the truth, hidden truths, and understanding meanings attributed to those truths. In my case, I have to be told up front, outright, a thousand times, and painted a picture before I will accept something as a complete truth. With a grain of salt.This is an inevitable Truth you have to accept about Sags, m'dear.  I'm not sure how much of that skepticism is Scorpionic in nature, but as neighbors, they /are/ alike in certain ways. IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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posted June 01, 2014 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Very interesting, mir. I mean this not at all in a sense of generalisation, but to me, that's echo of his ego. 'Don't show me the truth I don't want to see!' Hello, you're a SAG SUN! AND MOON! And MERC! Anyhow. I've no qualms with declaring the emperor's most clear state of undress. I can't say I really did make him feel as I had - I certainly never critiqued and analysed in the fashion I usually do. But his paranoia was fearsome. He was convinced I was manipulating him - somehow - and would hurt him terribly, and air his private vulnerabilities, and humiliate and disgrace him. His SCO SAT at the top of his chart, perhaps. Right on the MC, with KARMA. Or just his SCO SUN Dwad. Either way, more paranoia, cynicism, and mistrusting with fears of abandonment than any other Sagiquarians I know. And he's got plenty AQU, yes: 00° ASC, and a 1H VENUS-EROS, and MARS-PSYCHE; 10°-13° and 26° respectively. Perhaps I ought post the natal. I do wonder what drives his intense paranoia. Couldn't all be just background trauma.
Hi Indigo, as others have said your story is beautiful  If I may I'd just like to say something as a Sag Moon and Merc, Aqua venus... We are FLIGHTY. We skim the surface, we play dumb... Sag hides his wounds behind humor and a smile, but really he knows exactly what's going on and doesn't invest energy into something he doesn't believe in. I don't know the details enough to comment further, but I think he needs someone (you) to snap him out of this perpetual, fatally-optimistic haze and either shatter his dreams once and for all, or let him know it's time to be real. It's the most humane thing to do really lol Anyway again I don't know the details so don't take my opinion too seriously, but if you want to post his natal it would be really interesting to see!
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tgem
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posted June 01, 2014 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is what I mean. Should have read more carefully the first time around. 
Why don`t YOU call him? Why donīt you meet up again, just the two of you, and discuss it honestly, how it shall continue from now on?
I second this whole-heartedly! 💙💙
And didnt he call YOU this last time to meet? Now it's your turn 😊 IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted June 01, 2014 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Hi Indigo, as others have said your story is beautiful If I may I'd just like to say something as a Sag Moon and Merc, Aqua venus... We are FLIGHTY. We skim the surface, we play dumb... Sag hides his wounds behind humor and a smile, but really he knows exactly what's going on and doesn't invest energy into something he doesn't believe in. I don't know the details enough to comment further, but I think he needs someone (you) to snap him out of this perpetual, fatally-optimistic haze and either shatter his dreams once and for all, or let him know it's time to be real. It's the most humane thing to do really lol Anyway again I don't know the details so don't take my opinion too seriously, but if you want to post his natal it would be really interesting to see!
I totally agree with this!! Sag moons need help, they need you to ground them! It's a kind thing to do! My TF has a sag moon, he used to joke n play around saying he wanted to bullseye me, n ask if we could play Russian roulette , with pregnancy though! He would daydream about what would have happened if we could be irresponsible just once n it accidentally happened.
I joked to but never let it happen, I thought if he wants me he should want me n be able to say it! I don't want a pregnancy to be the reason he slows down and what if this is just words n he really wouldn't slow down id be stuck alone with our baby, I already have children I don't need that!!
Years later after we hadn't seen each other for years.....I realized why he said that and he was being much more serious than I ever knew.
He was drunk one night n very emotional when he called me n told me why he had wanted that, he said, If I had a baby I could stop running and I would stay right there. Nobody(his family) could say I was being lazy or not living up to my potential they would say I was being responsible and taking care of my family which I would love.
He had taurus Sun/Venus/Sat/Merc/IC so he definitely had staying power n huge desire for being grounded but emotionally he couldn't do it without his family approving, his sat is 2 degrees from his IC!
He said nobody else had ever made him want that, but I did.
If I ever had the chance again, I would let him this time! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted June 01, 2014 12:11 PM
Why does it seem all these TF have so much saggy??IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2014 12:23 PM
well Mr Sag obviously has a Sag-Moon as well. 
Indigo,
no it has not been easy, for neither of us. But I fully intend to become "normal" again, and I intend to NOT hide my light for what reason ever. However, speaking of you, I`d say maybe he is waiting for a sign of you. You calling HIM for a change? IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising
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posted June 01, 2014 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Why does it seem all these TF have so much saggy??
I have uranus in sag in the first house. The person who has had a big effect on me has sag moon and venus and ascendent.. boo... IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted June 01, 2014 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
I have uranus in sag in the first house. The person who has had a big effect on me has sag moon and venus and ascendent.. boo...
Huh....really, that's so odd! I wonder what's up with all this saggy??
I have saggy Sun/Merc/Nep Id always thought the attraction was just his saggy Moon being on my Sun.
Looks like saggy brings together a lot of SM and TF! IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising
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posted June 01, 2014 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Huh....really, that's so odd! I wonder what's up with all this saggy??
I have saggy Sun/Merc/Nep Id always thought the attraction was just his saggy Moon being on my Sun.
Looks like saggy brings together a lot of SM and TF!
I think we're on to something! I always had a feeling its a mix of sag and scorp.. the guy im talking about has scorpio sun pluto and merc. I have scorpio in the 12th house... all those planets fall in my 12th house.. and i have pluto and saturn in 12th house natally. Another guy who changed my life has sag acscendent scorpio venus and mercury and moon... all in his 12th house...
Booo.. and more boo.. lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2014 01:22 PM
Two words.Galactic Centre.
Oh make that four.
Great Attractor. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted June 01, 2014 01:24 PM
My NN scorpio@21.44
He has scorpio Jupiter and MCIP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted June 01, 2014 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Two words.Galactic Centre.
Oh make that four.
Great Attractor.
Exactly. My Guardian's ASC is 5° SAG. Nowhere near either, but it's 1° off of Fate's MOON.
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Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2014 01:53 PM
Sag energy is awesome. Simple as that.
We are Jupiter personified, if we glowed just a little bit more, we would be our own Sun. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted June 01, 2014 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sag energy is awesome. Simple as that.
We are Jupiter personified, if we glowed just a little bit more, we would be our own Sun.
Yeah, that about says it. I'm surprised BW's not chiming in here, being Jupiter-ruled.  I was made an honorary Sagittarian in 1995, did you know? Quite proud of that. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2014 01:59 PM
Sorry, I am just temporarily in a good mood becuase, well, I think part of my Sagginess needs to have somewhere to go, something to look forward to. And now I have the Ring convention and Misha Collins and Supernatural, and I am just a little bit happy. I suppose it is too easy to make my SAgittarian childlike mind happy.  [/URL]
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Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2014 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yeah, that about says it. I'm surprised BW's not chiming in here, being Jupiter-ruled. I was made an honorary Sagittarian in 1995, did you know? Quite proud of that.
No did not know that. But you should be proud and it is fully deserved. Us sags have an invincible spirit. We might get downed temporarily, but we`ll always come up again. Nothing can keep us in the dumps forever (unless of course some Saturn or Pluto is doing nasty things to us) IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted June 01, 2014 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yeah, that about says it. I'm surprised BW's not chiming in here, being Jupiter-ruled. I was made an honorary Sagittarian in 1995, did you know? Quite proud of that. That's awesome!! I could see that, you seem to be very positive, optimistic and able to laugh at yourself!
So give yourself a saggy applause!!
Sorry to steal that from you Ceri, it was just so appropriate! IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted June 01, 2014 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Yeah, that about says it. I'm surprised BW's not chiming in here, being Jupiter-ruled. I was made an honorary Sagittarian in 1995, did you know? Quite proud of that.
 It stands to reason, of course. Sagittarius is the philosophical sign, so it would be naturally inclined towards "enlightenment", in all forms. Perhaps it's easiest for those with this energy to progress forward, or assist others. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 01, 2014 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Huh. No, maira, I didn't. But my breath caught when you mentioned it. Huh.
...and the truth shall set you free! I have developed a number of defense mechanisms when talking about this subject and humor is one of them, I hope you don't mind.
On a more serious note, my story is very similar to yours - in feeling, not in the actual details, and the fact that I've said to this man that he is the love of my life made me feel much better and gave me the closest thing to a sense of closure as I could get. Maybe these things happen so we can become more humane, more humble and more brave at the same time. I know I did.
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lotus_flower
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posted June 01, 2014 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Most of our communication was laced with an undercurrent of frustration with little digs and barbs. It was easier than putting up with more of it, so, I just ... distanced even more..... But then we saw each other. And all of the difficulties, all of the complications, all of the pain, fear, and lost time just faded away.
Yup! The barbs, etc is what happens when you feel something, but you are not truly free to experss it. This happened to me lately. That kind of energy takes a lot out of you... I had this with someone and when I look back on it now, I cringe--mostly because it was not cool, but mostly because everything must have been so transparent. Your second paragraph....that is what I hope my meeting will be...all of that stuff just melting away.....replaced by the actual feelings underneath....
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Ceridwen
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posted June 11, 2014 07:37 AM
Just wondering how you are, Indigo.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 11, 2014 07:38 AM
also, I know this is your thread, but I just wanted to say with a little amazement, I never realized how having nothing left to lose can be so freaky liberating. Spoken as a true Sag/Aqua-mix I supose.
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IndigoDirae
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posted June 11, 2014 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sorry, I am just temporarily in a good mood ...
Wha ...? Why should you apologise for being in a good mood? 'Temporarily' should be 'as much as possible' always! IP: Logged |
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