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Topic: Orbs in Synastry
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neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 1275 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 02, 2012 08:04 AM
Just wondering, are these rules regarding orbs applicable to the composite chart as well? And how about for trines and sextiles? What is the maximum orb for it to be considered important? I just read that 4 degrees is the most. If that's the case, so a 6 degree aspect would be considered insignificant already?IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4148 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 01, 2014 12:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Got Gemini?: I don't agree with the whole mathematical theory behind using super tight orbs. I believe that synastry is activated by attraction by one or both parties and therefore all aspects should be taken into account. Yes, there is a limit when crossing into anther harmonic but I don't believe in excluding wider orbs close to the end of the harmonic. So to me, cutting down orbs just because you may share an aspect of 8˚ with millions of people is not necessary. Just because you share an aspect with millions of people does not mean you will ever meet all of those people, nor does it mean you will be attracted to them or vice versa. And I believe using larger orbs has NOTHING to do with "reaching."
Those are good points.. IP: Logged |
lotus_flower Knowflake Posts: 798 From: Virginia Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 01, 2014 06:34 PM
Sometimes, I wonder about orbs at all...saying if it is __ degree it doesn't count....or not being felt. I am trying to look at synastry just by seeing the interactions between two planets...... Say someone's moon conjunct your ASC at a classically tight orb-but that person in their chart has trouble expressing or even identifying with their ascendant? That wouldn't be important, just annoying to the other person LOL. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 114907 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2014 08:16 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
Enneline unregistered
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posted June 02, 2014 06:11 AM
I use wide orbs since my observations led to the result that even "8-degrees-aspects" can be felt. Sure, the tighter the more intense but I still count wide orbsIP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted June 02, 2014 06:56 AM
For me, orbs are to be applied on a case by case basis. To look only at aspects with 1 or 3 deg. orbs is totally misleading, IMO.First of all, each aspect has a different orb range. Luminaries have a different orb range as well, compared to other astrobodies. Pivotal planets (chart rulers, apexes etc.) can have a different orb range. What really matters to me is the overall geometry of the natals and the synastry. And this one differs a lot from one case to the other. There are synastries which I call "focal" that have a few close conjunctions or aspects with the orb range you describe, sometime on critical points (such as angles, nodes) and involving personal planets, but no underlying tapestry of the synastry, which is usually very complex in a good synastry. These point to relationships that are rather short than long lived and they focus on a specific lesson to be learned rather than a long-term partnership. In a good synastry, you will usually have many close aspects, but also many wider orb configurations. The close aspects will come into play at the beginning of the relationship and will be like a glue for the relationship to start, they will ensure attraction and triggering of the relationship. The wider orb aspects will be activated later and they will be added to the close ones. They are the second stage of the relationship. No wider orbs, no later. To give an example: Y has a Venus and Mars in his 7th house, 12 degrees apart. His ASC is in Libra, so Venus is his chart ruler. Mars rules his 8th house. So both planets are crucial to him when it comes to relationships. Both planets make some wider orb aspects in his chart. Y also has Moon in Sag. Madame X lol comes along and puts her dominatrix Aries Sun on the exact midpoint between Y's Venus and Mars. So her Sun conjuncts his Venus by 6 deg., his Mars by 6 deg. Her Sun there also closes some of his aspects in close geometric patterns like a Grand Trine or makes closer orb aspects with the planets previously aspecting Y's Venus and Mars (makes Y's aspects tighter), creating an entire configuration. In this case, one can say that Madame X definitely integrates Y's Venus and Mars energies in his house of partnerships, 6 deg. or not. Madame X also has a Sag Mars in close conjunction (1 or 3 deg.) with Y's Moon, so they will initially feel this close conjunction and it will probably draw them together, but if the synastry allows for them to go to a second stage with their relationship, the 6 deg, double conjunction will become as important, if not more than the Moon/Mars conjunction, in the long run. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4566 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 11, 2019 07:17 PM
What about a 9-degree orb between Venus and Mars in the same sign?IP: Logged | |