posted June 19, 2014 03:47 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wow...yes..our angles at the same degree!! Venus/Saturn DW, your Mercury/Jupiter conjuncts my Moon, your Uranus my IC, your Neptune my NN, your Mars pn my SN!

You have almost all your planets in middle degree, around 15, look at that...that's interesting!

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HA! I liked you from the start

posted June 19, 2014 03:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
HA! I liked you from the start

yes, I've noticed this as well but have not what this could mean?

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posted June 19, 2014 04:47 PM            

Enneline, sure, I'd like that. I'll post what I saw in your chart next.

posted June 19, 2014 04:49 PM            

Your Aries moon (and chart ruler) isn't all that well-aspected. I'd go for a trine from Leo or Sagittarius to give her a positive outlet for all of that Martian energy. My favourite would be between 19 and 28 Leo, touching both your moon and Neptune (maximum orb), and it activates your 2nd house where you have that Saturn singleton. They'd touch an important part of your life, as again, it's not just the singleton emphasis but also where your relationships happen.
Your moon is also in your secondary 7th house, so it'd be even more important to give her some support. I'm thinking of a Leo moon, Venus or Jupiter, something nice and happy. Maybe Juno or the NN.

A planet on your MC (again, secondary 7th) would complete a kite with your Mars, Mercury-Jupiter and Neptune.

A planet in Aquarius, around the degree of your Mercury-Jupiter conjunction completes another kite. This also touches your Vertex, which gives that fated feeling. And of course it would be either in your 7th or 78th house. Since your 7th is already supported very much, I'd go with a planet that falls into your 8th. It depends how you feel about squares, though, as they'd square your 8th house ruler, Uranus in Scorpio. It would be intense no doubt.

Your secondary 8th house is Taurus, matching well with your emphasized 2nd house. Since we already have Aquarius making a T-square, you could go for a Cross, but that may be very heavy energy. It does give your Saturn a nice trine (and so a way out of those squares to Mars and Neptune).

Your Scorpio 5th house gels with your 8th house pattern, so I'd definitely go for a planet here. If that square from Aquarius is too much for you, then how about a conjunction to your Pluto in Libra (and IC)? I get the feeling Pluto energy - being able to see each other for who they are - feels familiar and safe to you. Maybe something less heavy, which doesn't give your Venus another blow.

We've already gone over the 8th house, your secondary 5th. You seem to really have a pattern.

That's definitely possible, 4 of these signs are consecutive. I think I mentioned Mars for the Pisces thing, then you could have an Aries with Venus in Aquarius and Mercury in Taurus and you have the other 3. Venus in Aqua in your 8th house would match well with your natal Venus-Pluto square. The only thing I'm not sure about is that it'd quincunx your Venus or sun.

I'm thinking of Capricorn rising for the Ascendant-Descendant match. Early Cap rising puts your sun and Venus in their 7th and Leo planets in their 8th. Doesn't sound too bad, right? Plus, they'll look the part for you. Your Saturn can trine their Ascendant for some nice stability.

posted June 20, 2014 07:24 AM              

Astro Keen, there are many things I find interesting in your chart, I'll try to list some:

Your Sun/Neptune Uranus Chiron T square on the spiritual houses (someone from your 9th should bring some important revelatory teaching), fixed, and in combination with the tantric cross you described (also fixed) - I think you really should practice a Uranian Chirotic tantric philosophy (if you don't do it already ) Your Uranus is also in your 12th, a very spiritual placement, ruling your 7th - which tells me a partner is very important for this kundalini practices, for them to have the maximum effect. Also, these planets are placed in early degrees - pointing to a major step in this life's evolution, in terms of spiritual evolution.

-another thing that ads to this impression is your Juno in Scorpio in the house of the heart midpointing Pallas and Neptune, a very interesting semi-sextile formation with 3rd eye opening undertones. Your Juno is ruled by Pluto in your first conjunct your love house ruler and also aspecting Pallas, so another clue in the same direction.

Other things I find interesting in your chart:

NN conjunct Vertex in 5th sesquisquare Uranus in 12th - at least one very important and unexpected love meeting shapes your life path.

ASC ruler (Sun) conjunct Neptune - your self-identity and advancement are much connected to Neptune lessons - Neptune also rules your 8th.

Venus rules your MC and it is in 4th - being a mother/domestic partner is an important accomplishment for you, it squares ASC - it could hinder a bit your personal affirmation as a Leo ASC, needs to be integrated.

Your DSC ruler Uranus in 12 th points to some unexpected partner, Moon also rules 12th and sesquisqared by Mars.

Your NN ruler Jupiter conjuncts Pluto in 1st, trines Pallas - self-affirmation an important lesson in this life, in tune with a Leo ASC and Pluto ruling all those 4th things and your Sun.

posted June 20, 2014 07:55 AM              

I'll look at your Prince without checking meissieri analysis, then compare them

You have a nice trapeze, closest point to mdp - your NN axis with Saturn - time favors you.

Because of this cradle in the 1st quadrants, I already see Pisces something

Both your Venus and Mars receive major hard and soft aspects, so you will needs someone with a lot of aspects to your planets as well, and both hard and soft for those.

Wow..you have a very aspected chart.

Possibility for someone from the "other side" lol to close your Venus/Pluto square AND your Venus/Uranus trine and your T/square all at once.

Also make at least one Mystic Rectangle....and do something with your Sun/Moon square.

People with Sun/Moon square usually need another luminary hard aspect, or at lest some nodes...maybe with Saturn, your DSC ruler, such an important planet for your, your NN star.

One option:

because your Venus is in 12th, she needs a push...I think this man's Mars is in Pisces, closing your Venus/Uranus trine, and your T/square...his Mars on your SN, giving you a push...you already have Mars/Saturn and Mars/Neptune in hard aspect, you won't mind his Mars doing the same, on the contrary, it would be a familiar energy. Mars in your 8th, yummy for a 5th house Scorpio.

His Mars would close your Venus square with a trine a nice biquintile with your Pluto.

I think his Sun or Moon is definitely in Cap around your DSC. He would need something nice in late Libra. It would be nice if his Sun or Mon is in the perfect position to not only close your luminaries cross, but also make a trine to your Saturn and Chiron. If his Sun is there, his Venus better be on your Neptune...it does square Saturn, but for you Saturn is different, it's your NN star and your DSC ruler, so his Venus aspecting it as part of the complex cross with his Mars is a good thing. He would have Venus square Mars in his natal, in tune with your own aspects. In this case, it would be nice if his Moon is on your Venus or in soft aspect to it.

His Sun in your 6th approaching your DSc is not bad, with your NN/Saturn (DSC ruler) in Virgo.

If his Moon is there, instead of his Sun, then his Sun better be in early Taurus, conjunct your Moon, falling in your secondary 7th. Which means Venus on your Mars or, maybe, your MC. I'm not giving up Mars in Pisces for you

posted June 20, 2014 08:04 AM              

We've seen many things in common.

One thing's for sure, Enneline: we're both sending that Pisces Mars to you

Of course, with so many aspects, you have several good options

he definitely needs something in Aqua, and if his Sun is in Cap, he can have his Mercury there, making all those nice aspects, closing the Mystic rectangle etc.

The most interesting thing is that someone with mid-planets like yourself is actually the trick here - he would make a lot of aspects to yours and weave a tapestry

posted June 20, 2014 08:08 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Astro keen, I suppose you've seen this??

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I just saw it, first time. Awww! Thank you LeeLoo. Will read now and enjoy .

This is revelatory! Bless you. The Leo Asc is humbled.

posted June 20, 2014 08:28 AM              

THANK YOU both! *kissoncheeks* You've just given me hope not to end up as an old maid facing my difficult birth chart (I always thought since I have sun sq. moon semi-sq. mars I would be hard for me to find an ideal partner...)

posted June 20, 2014 09:09 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
First, I will respond more in detail later this day since I am at work right now...

THANK YOU both! *kissoncheeks* You've just given me hope not to end up as an old maid facing my difficult birth chart (I always thought since I have sun sq. moon semi-sq. mars I would be hard for me to find an ideal partner...)

Why is my chart great? My life has improved since my late 20s...esp. my childhood was miserable

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That's why I said time is on your side, Enneline

posted June 20, 2014 03:26 PM              

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Originally posted by meissieri:
What jumped out on me right away was your Saturn as an earth singleton. It's also your 7th house ruler and the apex of your T-square. A personal planet in Pisces around the degree of your Saturn would definitely have a lot of impact on you, I imagine. Saturn is binding enough as it is, but tied to your 7th house, that's huge.
It would be on your South Node, so maybe you wouldn't want too harsh of a planet there. But if Mars, it would fit with your secondary 7th house.

Your Aries moon (and chart ruler) isn't all that well-aspected. I'd go for a trine from Leo or Sagittarius to give her a positive outlet for all of that Martian energy. My favourite would be between 19 and 28 Leo, touching both your moon and Neptune (maximum orb), and it activates your 2nd house where you have that Saturn singleton. They'd touch an important part of your life, as again, it's not just the singleton emphasis but also where your relationships happen.
Your moon is also in your secondary 7th house, so it'd be even more important to give her some support. I'm thinking of a Leo moon, Venus or Jupiter, something nice and happy. Maybe Juno or the NN.

A planet on your MC (again, secondary 7th) would complete a kite with your Mars, Mercury-Jupiter and Neptune.

A planet in Aquarius, around the degree of your Mercury-Jupiter conjunction completes another kite. This also touches your Vertex, which gives that fated feeling. And of course it would be either in your 7th or 78th house. Since your 7th is already supported very much, I'd go with a planet that falls into your 8th. It depends how you feel about squares, though, as they'd square your 8th house ruler, Uranus in Scorpio. It would be intense no doubt.

Your secondary 8th house is Taurus, matching well with your emphasized 2nd house. Since we already have Aquarius making a T-square, you could go for a Cross, but that may be very heavy energy. It does give your Saturn a nice trine (and so a way out of those squares to Mars and Neptune).

Your Scorpio 5th house gels with your 8th house pattern, so I'd definitely go for a planet here. If that square from Aquarius is too much for you, then how about a conjunction to your Pluto in Libra (and IC)? I get the feeling Pluto energy - being able to see each other for who they are - feels familiar and safe to you. Maybe something less heavy, which doesn't give your Venus another blow.

We've already gone over the 8th house, your secondary 5th. You seem to really have a pattern.

That's definitely possible, 4 of these signs are consecutive. I think I mentioned Mars for the Pisces thing, then you could have an Aries with Venus in Aquarius and Mercury in Taurus and you have the other 3. Venus in Aqua in your 8th house would match well with your natal Venus-Pluto square. The only thing I'm not sure about is that it'd quincunx your Venus or sun.

I'm thinking of Capricorn rising for the Ascendant-Descendant match. Early Cap rising puts your sun and Venus in their 7th and Leo planets in their 8th. Doesn't sound too bad, right? Plus, they'll look the part for you. Your Saturn can trine their Ascendant for some nice stability.

It's again quite long, but I'm trying to see where your planets would fall (and for LeeLoo as well).

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Wow, thank you! You are a sweetheart!

posted June 20, 2014 03:31 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's why I said time is on your side, Enneline

You have a LOT of aspects, everything is connected to everything with both hard and soft aspects - which means you have a lot of inner resources, talents, drive, both psychologically and for action, you have an opposition (a sign of drive and success). MC ruler in a prominent position with Saturn and the nodes and NN ruler conjunct Jupiter in 1st and 2nd

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posted June 20, 2014 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I like the double with you Meissieri

We've seen many things in common.

One thing's for sure, Enneline: we're both sending that Pisces Mars to you

Of course, with so many aspects, you have several good options

he definitely needs something in Aqua, and if his Sun is in Cap, he can have his Mercury there, making all those nice aspects, closing the Mystic rectangle etc.

The most interesting thing is that someone with mid-planets like yourself is actually the trick here - he would make a lot of aspects to yours and weave a tapestry

You have a great chart, Enneline!

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Your post made me smile, oh yes, we definitely had some of the same things in mind. Go for that Pisces Mars, Enneline! With your own Mars opp Neptune, it'll feel very familiar to you. Similar energy.

Oh, hadn't thought of Mercury in Aquarius. Yes, good choice for her, too. Again, matches her Mercury square Uranus. Was that your idea? I love your suggestion for Cap sun/Mercury in Aqua.

posted June 20, 2014 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Wow, thank you! You are a sweetheart!

The most amazing thing: You mentioned sooo many point of views which I never considered
So your analysis has provided me with a ton of Information I may think about. Thank you for that
Now it is your turn

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You're totally welcome. I had a lot of fun going over your chart, glad it gave you some new ideas! Anything specific?

posted June 20, 2014 04:58 PM              

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Originally posted by meissieri:
You're totally welcome. I had a lot of fun going over your chart, glad it gave you some new ideas! Anything specific?

Sure, go ahead. Now I'm curious! I can repost my chart here, bit easier?

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posted June 20, 2014 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Yes, re-post your Chart please I will have a look at it tomorrow (sorry, I am tired it's quite late here (CET time).

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It is over here as well. Go ahead and post when you feel more awake.

posted June 20, 2014 05:19 PM            

If it matters, I have Venus parallel my Descendant exact. I think I own it, but do look for it in others as well.

posted June 20, 2014 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Meisseri, than you for your heartfelt analysis I'm impressed with several things - apart from the fact that you saw many placements completing my patterns and some placements that come up in my relationships - but mostly because of your analysis of the MC point - I've never thought of that as a connection to my Cap/Saturn energy, although I consider a conjunction to MC as a conjunction to Saturn, as they say, when it comes to our own chart or own own things, we have blank spots Thank you again for this priceless insight!

I don't know if you noticed, but the placement on MC also closes my only loose trine, Jupiter - Saturn. A luminary there seems immediately like a great idea, because it would be connected to my Sun, Moon, ASC, DSC, IC, MC etc, also make a required luminary to Saturn connection, with a nice luminary to Jupiter trine as a bonus.

But I am the most impressed that you guessed the placements of my current love. Are you a psychic? Lucky girl as I am now, you would not believe it, but this man's Moon is 16.29 Scorpio, my MC 16.44 Scorpio!

He is a Pisces Sun opposing my Sun by 1 deg.
He has Saturn on MC exact square his ASC/DSC and Sun (poor guy lol), Capricorn Cancer intercepted in 4th and 10th, my ASC in the middle of his interception.

His Saturn squares my Sun (loosely), my Saturn integrates his Sun/Moon trine. His Saturn also quintiles my Moon, exact, so a DW Sun Moon Saturn.

His Mars is there, at 7 Gemini
His Venus trines my Mars/Pluto/Mercury, Venus in Aqua in my 1st, my interception, with a bunch of other asteroids there, all opposing my Moon.

Somehow, I love Leo energy, but I always see Leo Suns as friends, never fell in love with one of the many Leos I know. perhaps my Leo Moon is very strong by herself, and in need to shine, because of her interception?

Or perhaps it's my need for mystery.

This man, just as you described , has Pluto conjunct ASC, quindecile Sun.

His ASC in late Virgo conjuncts my Mars/Pluto, so yes, another good guess about Mars/ASC connection for me. I wouldn't have preferred his Mars on ASC because it wouldn't have been connected to my Venus.

I hope all these are good news. Wishing you the best!

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Hey! Wowa, this has been true for you? That Scorpio moon even - yes, yes, yes, sounds like you've found a very good match!

Very nice. Your MC is definitely important with Saturn connected to your Descendant. Ah, don't worry, I only found out about that not too long ago. Ceridwen's posts on synastry got me hooked on checking house rulers and such for synastry. But that's the great thing about a community, right? We can fill in some blanks for each other.

You're right, I hadn't even seen that. Jupiter-Saturn-MC as a grand trine. With his moon involved, I bet it feels nice for you both. The optimism and encouragement of Jupiter with the stability of Saturn.

*gasp* Even more of your attraction placements. Pisces for your Juno, Saturnine and aspects from his Saturn for your Saturn on the Descendant. I'm impressed! That Mars in Gemini must take the cake, haha. And touching intercepted houses for you both. Good stuff.

You don't really see them in that way? Hmm. Does the man have a prominent sun or 5th house? That gives a Leo vibe as well. Haha, oh, maybe. It shouldn't become a fight for the spotlight ^^

Ah, I see why you prefer Mars somewhere else. Sounds like it touched an important part of you.

posted June 21, 2014 07:13 AM              

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Hey! Wowa, this has been true for you? That Scorpio moon even - yes, yes, yes, sounds like you've found a very good match!

Very nice. Your MC is definitely important with Saturn connected to your Descendant. Ah, don't worry, I only found out about that not too long ago. Ceridwen's posts on synastry got me hooked on checking house rulers and such for synastry. But that's the great thing about a community, right? We can fill in some blanks for each other.

You're right, I hadn't even seen that. Jupiter-Saturn-MC as a grand trine. With his moon involved, I bet it feels nice for you both. The optimism and encouragement of Jupiter with the stability of Saturn.

*gasp* Even more of your attraction placements. Pisces for your Juno, Saturnine and aspects from his Saturn for your Saturn on the Descendant. I'm impressed! That Mars in Gemini must take the cake, haha. And touching intercepted houses for you both. Good stuff.

You don't really see them in that way? Hmm. Does the man have a prominent sun or 5th house? That gives a Leo vibe as well. Haha, oh, maybe. It shouldn't become a fight for the spotlight ^^

Ah, I see why you prefer Mars somewhere else. Sounds like it touched an important part of you.

You, too. Have a nice weekend both!

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posted June 21, 2014 09:56 AM              

For you, I see a Taurus Sun with Aqua Moon or Aqua Sun with Taurus Moon, to complete your luminaries cross with Saturn.

1st option:

His Sun in your 7th, his Moon in your IC opp your Sun/Moon, a Cancer Venus would love that

His Venus in Gemini on your 7th/8th cusp, on your Chiron, sextile your Mars, part of that wonderful Mystic rectangle, also trining your Jupiter and Juno. I think a Mars in Scorpio on your ASC, but in your 12th would be wonderful for you: your 12th is your secondary 5th, you have Pluto there, maybe a Mars at about 10 deg. would also involve your Pluto, trine your Venus, and something else he should have in Pisces (Jupiter or a major love asteroid) making a GT, also his Mars, would square your Mars and Jupiter and with your Mars receiving this potent hard aspect, you need some hard aspects to your Mars for some long-term attraction.

Option 2:

His Sun in Aqua on your IC opp your Sun/Moon, his Moon in Taurus in your 7th, part of your cross with Saturn. His Venus/Mercury in Pisces trine your Venus and his Mars in Scorpio - I don't give up this one

posted June 21, 2014 11:38 AM              

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Let's see if this works.

If it matters, I have Venus parallel my Descendant exact. I think I own it, but do look for it in others as well.

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Well, it's easy to see what you need in a man Very active (Vertex/Desc/Pallas in Aries) who should also be a great buddy (ruler of the 7thouse in the 11th in Virgo) and he should definitely be someone you can rely on (cap stellium around the IC) Asc in Libra & sun in Leo suggest that he should be good-looking or at least well-groomed as well.
I would love to see someone conjuncting your vertex in the 7th house with one of his personal planets (like Mars) because if that be the case the feelings of fateness (vertex) and mild/spiritual passion (Pluto Triseptile) would be hard to ignore. Apart from that such a placement would either triseptile or quadronovile your venus, would trine your sun and conjuncting your pallas. How could it be better?
But please not too much of an Aries. Many stuff in Aries would correlate too much with the energies of your Asc, your venus and your Cap stellium.
And your partner should have at least own a little planet in Pisces (but only 1-2 Pisces placements please since you have no pisces in the chart) because this would make a Grand Trine with your Chiron and Pluto. That would be great. This placement would provide you with healing. Great. Furthermore such a placement would oppose your Venus adding major sparks.
And I would love to see someone having his venus in taurus in your 8th house. It would provide sexual attraction and would either trine your cap stellium or your venus. An opposition with Chiron could give you extra healing. Furthermore a man with his venus in Taurus could fulfill the desire for stability.

posted June 21, 2014 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Cuteleo,

For you, I see a Taurus Sun with Aqua Moon or Aqua Sun with Taurus Moon, to complete your luminaries cross with Saturn.

1st option:

His Sun in your 7th, his Moon in your IC opp your Sun/Moon, a Cancer Venus would love that

His Venus in Gemini on your 7th/8th cusp, on your Chiron, sextile your Mars, part of that wonderful Mystic rectangle, also trining your Jupiter and Juno. I think a Mars in Scorpio on your ASC, but in your 12th would be wonderful for you: your 12th is your secondary 5th, you have Pluto there, maybe a Mars at about 10 deg. would also involve your Pluto, trine your Venus, and something else he should have in Pisces (Jupiter or a major love asteroid) making a GT, also his Mars, would square your Mars and Jupiter and with your Mars receiving this potent hard aspect, you need some hard aspects to your Mars for some long-term attraction.

Option 2:

His Sun in Aqua on your IC opp your Sun/Moon, his Moon in Taurus in your 7th, part of your cross with Saturn. His Venus/Mercury in Pisces trine your Venus and his Mars in Scorpio - I don't give up this one

There is a third option when he has Venus in Scorpio where I described the Mars. In this case, a Pisces Mars, and his Sun better be in Libra, sextile your Sun/Moon, on some Juno/Pluto mdp, falling in your 12th or his Sun in Sag, in your secondary 7th, trining your Sun/Moon, on your Antivertex. Moon at your choice to make an aspect to your Sun, so that your have a DW.

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Wow LeeLoo, thank you! These are definitely some options;-)

Never had a taurus, but I normally get along with them pretty well. I don't normally like Aqua, but I guess you can't rule them out lol I DO love scorpios and venus in scorpio, it's one of my favorites. I like strong signs like mine, so I know they can survive with me :-) My bf is a libra almost everything with venus in virgo, and Capri rising. Not going to lie my first libra man, but he keeps me on my toes, so I like him lol funny thing is now that you brought those points up, I looked at his chart, and my venus in cancer is in his 7th along with mars and mer in leo.

You so hit a soft spot with venus in scorpio though!! Lol