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Gabby
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posted June 13, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have but I was the Saturn person and I found it was so hard to let go and forget, it took forever.
I was wondering what is like being the sun person?
Do you feel that extreme bond eventually or is it one sided?

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posted June 13, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gabby,

I am the Saturn squaring his Sun by 3 degrees, In fact, I square his Moon too as he has Moon opposite Sun exact. So, if not being able to let go is the result, then I'm glued (screwed!).

Have read various differing accounts of Saturn aspects. From it being the essential ingredient in long-term relationships, to its harsh kill-joy qualities particularly if a square. Would like to hear of others' experiences.

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posted June 13, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read the Sun square Saturn is one of the worst, you never fully let go or forget the person. I'm not sure if it's only Saturn that gets that hung up or if the Sun person does also.

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posted June 13, 2014 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a LL link that has some good information....
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206612.html

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posted June 14, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have but I was the Saturn person and I found it was so hard to let go and forget, it took forever.
I was wondering what is like being the sun person?
Do you feel that extreme bond eventually or is it one sided?


It seems impossible to break.
At least for me as of now. though I know I SHOULD and part of me really WANTS to and get away and be my happy shining Sun-Self again. But I can`t get him out of my system as it seems. and we never even had a "thing". lol

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posted June 14, 2014 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st - sun conj . Saturn + sun sext. Saturn Dw - I was the sun , never forgot the Saturn person it was hard, painful but eventually beneficial for both of us ! After 20 yrs , were still friends , even though it ended in 1997!

2nd - Sun sq. Saturn , Sun trine Saturn Dw again he is the Sun , he feels the pressure to succeed ( his natal moon is conj. Saturn ). I have Sun / saturn conj. In the Natal we have Dw Saturn moon sq. + trine , plus mars sq. Saturn , mercury sq. Saturn his Saturn falls in my 7th , and mySaturn/sun fall a in his 7th.
Usually problems were issues with family , sometimes financial restrictions , the career, health, and exes . But with each problem that we survived , we are closer . It's karmic and binding ! IMO

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posted June 14, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutomercjup20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this my someone I've liked for eveeeeeeerrr , I am the sun he's Saturn , it's kind of a loose orb (4) but I still feel it very much and let me tell you I've tried so many times to get over him and even if I do it's usually for a week or month (a month would be the longest) BUT for some reason I always go back to liking him , there is always something that keeps me going back to him no matter how hard I try. I try to get over him and he eventually comes back. Very hard to let go. Could also be my other aspects with him ( we have a few more Saturn aspects , north node conjuctions and such) but I still feel this very much.

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posted June 14, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His SATURN is opposite my SUN; don't think I've experienced the square.

Being my Guardian Soulmate, we're rather stuck together. But the way we learn from one another makes the hard times worth it.

Strange dream this past night. I said, 'I can wait as long as it isn't forever.' I was referring to our intimacy; we were in a brief period (a day or so, around people who wouldn't understand our lifestyle choices) where I explained that I could wait -- for quite some time, even comfortably -- so long as it wasn't forever: done, over.

That's true. I have a remarkable natural capacity to give others space as much as I need my own. But the moment he would refuse me, I would become privately obsessive, deeply emotional, and sever all ties.

That SATURN of his is conjunct DIANA, and near his ATROPOS (which opposes my SATURN). It's all opposite his MARS-LILITH and my SUN-PLUTO-BML. 8H / 2H overlay. Aries and Libra.

He once said, 'we're going to be doing this forever, aren't we?' in a kind of wistful realisation. I said, 'yes, I think for quite a while, at the very least.'

SATURN binds. Its lessons are very real, and the results -- sometimes the relationships, too -- are lasting.

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posted June 14, 2014 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this DW with the new person I'm dating now (1.5deg/8deg, "good" news is the second one is quite wide). I'm a bit worried about this. But considering the "newness". I'm just going to let it run it's course and see where it goes, if it goes anywhere.

What I've read of it though, I can't really see what good this can bring in the end. Have you read any good things from this?

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posted June 14, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this open in my browser. I'm guessing I must have googled it then forgot about it.

It doesn't sound to horribly terrible from that thread.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206612.html

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posted June 14, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it natally and have it with them in our synastry and composite. You bet your ass its hard.

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posted June 14, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the tight square with Cusp...I'm the sun, he's Saturn. Me being the sun, I find it impossible to let him go so I wonder how he feels about me??!! Then again, his Saturn aspects EVERY SINGLE ONE of my planets!! Can you say karmic ??!! LOL. Not only that, his Saturn parallels my sun and moon as well....so hard!!

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posted June 14, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square Saturn is one of the classic longevity aspects, statistically ( of course, in an already good synastry - in a bad one, it could be a sign of "never getting off the ground" - but this is more with Venus, rather than the Sun).

Generally, at least one aspect from Saturn to one of the luminaries in synastry or composite is a good sign for longtermness. A hard aspect like the square to Sun and Moon shows the relationship as a "stable partnership' may take a concrete form. Many long-term couples have a square between Saturn and Sun or Moon in synastry or the composite.

The idea that Saturn is a malefic is outdated, IMO. Any contact between Saturn and luminaries in the synastry/composite is a potential good omen for those who want "the real thing", and not a fling. The soft aspects manifest more on a psychological level, the hard aspects (especially the square) speak of doing/building things together, like a relationship. Of course, the lessons Saturn brings: patience, work, maturity, discipline, restriction, the right time, reward etc. have never been easy to integrate by nobody, especially in early youth - but somehow, it is also an ideal.

I guess in synastry it all depends on how Saturn is perceived by the individual, how mature, wise, constructive he/she is, in a positive manner (as opposed to boring, rigid, lazy etc.)

BTW, I thought it is Saturn holding on to the Sun, but of course, it's probably mutual.

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posted June 14, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you all for your answers!! I didn't realize the Sun person felt it so deeply, I'd also thought it was Saturn who held on!

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posted June 15, 2014 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... Everyone chill! (lol)

I just realized that I had this with my x husband. Again, I'm the Saturn and the orb is 1.5 deg. I should really check our synastry more often. But since it ended before I started studying astrology I sometimes forget.

Anyway, we were together 14 years and had an amazingly easy, very little conflict relationship.

Geez, now I'm back to wondering (again) why the descriptions are always so freaking negative all the time! >(

And Gabby, I know for sure that my x loved me as much as I did him. I just felt it. We are still very good friends and he still takes care of me.


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posted June 15, 2014 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LucieLemonade,

If you don't mind me asking - why did this marriage end?

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posted June 15, 2014 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
LucieLemonade,

If you don't mind me asking - why did this marriage end?


That's my question also!!!???

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posted June 15, 2014 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would this be the similar for sun trine saturn in composite?

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posted June 15, 2014 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
LucieLemonade,

If you don't mind me asking - why did this marriage end?


Astrologically or in life?

In life, we just came to the conclusion that we got to the point where we were just friends. Totally cliche "I love you but I'm not _in_ love with you". We do love each other. Just not in the same way. Like I said we are still good friends and he still takes care of a lot things for me. But we are too young to live in a companion type relationship. Maybe it was "too easy" and we didn't work on it enough.

Astrologically, we both have our Saturns in the 7th conj dsc. So in synastry they are conj in each others in each others 7th (does that make sense?) . And Saturn came around to hit both our asc's and opposed both our natal Saturns/dsc. Kaboom goes the relationship! LOL

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posted June 15, 2014 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, for you, Saturn did not provide the binding factor in marriage but perhaps it does for a friendship.

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posted June 15, 2014 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
So, for you, Saturn did not provide the binding factor in marriage but perhaps it does for a friendship.

don't know we were/are very bonded and very much in love since day one really. or technically day 4 actually. i'm not really the type that thinks there is only one person for life re: marriage/love affair. but we'll only know when my life is over! lol

but astrology is just the assets/faults you bring with you. we all need to do the work in real life. maybe had we had known Saturn was coming we might have put more work into our relationship to get through the transit. of course we were used to easy street. so working on our relationship was never required before. does that make sense?

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posted June 15, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im Saturn exact conjunct Uranus square his sun.


we just met but I have issue with him...

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posted June 15, 2014 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
don't know we were/are very bonded and very much in love since day one really. or technically day 4 actually. i'm not really the type that thinks there is only one person for life re: marriage/love affair. but we'll only know when my life is over! lol

but astrology is just the assets/faults you bring with you. we all need to do the work in real life. maybe had we had known Saturn was coming we might have put more work into our relationship to get through the transit. of course we were used to easy street. so working on our relationship was never required before. does that make sense?



Lucie, Saturn seems to have many applications! Saturn transits are something else altogether, whilst Saturn aspects with luminaries in synastry, well highlighted by LeeLoo earlier, appear to be binding aspects despite the challenges that they also present. But not in all cases which is what I was trying to relate to in your case.

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posted June 15, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I met my boyfriend I didn't expect any serious relationship…I had just got out of a disaster relationship, and actually met my guy only a week after the official break up (but we have had problems for months) and I tell you, the moment I met my boyfriend I loved him lol!

Then some other terrible things happened in my family (my brother died from suicide) and my boyfriend was by my side always…I feel like we have a very deep bond now, because he just without any hesitation or anything has just wanted to be with me and not let me go…
I'm a difficult person to be with I could imagine, because of my close moon square uranus by 2 degrees, and moon is my chart ruler… I often get distracted in relationship, bored and then leave or create problems. But not with my boyfriend. We haven't had any problems yet, it feels very stable and grounded between us… I tell you, it's worth a million when you can feel your boyfriend taking your hand if you have a hard time, and when he kiss you and say you are doing fine, when that is exactly what you need to hear.

So yeah, we have this aspect by 1 degree only, and I'm saturn. We also got saturn trine sun where he is saturn…

I seriously hope we won't ever have to wonder about this break-up thing, cause I don't think I'm ever going to meet anyone like him again. It was love at first sight, and it has been ever since, even though I'm kind of quick to move on with the moon-uranus square, it's gonna be completely impossible with this guy!

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posted June 15, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:

Lucie, Saturn seems to have many applications! Saturn transits are something else altogether, whilst Saturn aspects with luminaries in synastry, well highlighted by LeeLoo earlier, appear to be binding aspects despite the challenges that they also present. But not in all cases which is what I was trying to relate to in your case.


Still not sure what you are saying. We are still "bound" together in that we are very good friends and care for each other very much.

Not every relationship that is important and binding is a marriage/love affair forever. Also, many people don't stay in touch with their x's anymore, including me who has 2 long term x's (5 + 3 yrs) who I wanted nothing to do with after it ended nor did I have any type of bond afterward.

Maybe that's what you are saying? I'm not quite sure.

And, my other point is that our relationship wasn't at all difficult. So, all the freak out scenarios are not always the outcome of this aspect. The descriptions (at least online) are very negative. But as you say LeeLou did mention it's about how mature the people are, I guess in terms of how this plays out.

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