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posted June 19, 2014 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In both our natals, mars means a lot.
I have mars conjunction sun (5 degrees) and opposite moon (2 degrees) and square uranus (4 degrees)

And my boyfriend has his natal mars trine sun (3 degrees), square moon (5 degrees) and sextile jupiter (4 degrees)

In our synastry my mars conjuncts his venus and mercury, and square his ascendant, and that's all!
His mars only trines my mercury and quintiles my moon.

I think Mars is kind of in-active in our synastry, mostly on his side?

In composite we got mars sextile sun (4 degrees, so that's not even counting?) and sextile mercury (3 degrees) and quintile venus.

So also in the composite mars is not really doing anything…

Do you think mars is doing too little in our synastry/composite, compared to our natal charts?
And would this turn out to be too little sexual chemistry in the future?

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posted June 19, 2014 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it so?

The house overlays are also important and the house ruled by Mars. In composite, Mars is not unaspected, but his Mars seems to be a bit unaspected in synastry, yes.

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posted June 19, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience: If a guy's Mars his not hit by the woman he would probably not be very into her. Mars means sex drive and no man tries to put his hands on a woman who does not appeal to his sex drive.

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posted June 19, 2014 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's okay, unaspected or less aspected Mars does NOT mean he is not sexually interested.

I've seen it in too many synastries between lovers to recognise it is not an indication of lack of sexual attraction.

Example would be Humphry Bogart - Lauren Bacall - the only major aspect to his Mars is a trine from her Mercury.
The couple was famous for their legendary steamy sexual connection.

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posted June 19, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars-mercury isn't about sexual attraction persay, but more like what someone says (mercury) in response to another person's action (mars). Have had it with several people, hard aspects, and it can make communication very difficult. I was always mars. Every time I did something (mars), they would criticize it (mercury).

In your synastry, iirc, your mars conjunts his venus at 4 degrees. Its there, but, imo, it's pretty wide. His mars is unaspected.

You have a venus/uranus DW for attraction, but I think mars based attractions are more action/physical oriented. Mars attraction aspects, especially hard aspects, create more of a "I want to get physical with you", "I want to rip your clothes off" type thing.

So you're both attracted to each other physically, but his unaspected mars and your wide mars to his venus conjunction could point to an incompatibility when it comes to actually getting physical/sexually.

Even if someone had an unaspected mars in their natal, not aspecting their mars in synastry could lead to them not taking action towards the other person. Since their mars is unaspected in natal they might not have a problem with that. Now, if your mars in active in natal, an unaspected mars in synastry/composite might be problematic as that side of you wants to come out but has trouble doing so.

In composite, you have a 4 degree sun sextile mars. Which might be felt some degree. Overall the synastry and composite don't show a lot of action (mars) from both your sides.
So, going based on that alone, I would assume things would be mellow action wise.

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posted June 19, 2014 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I've noticed, it's the other way around.

If the man's Mars doesn't do much in the woman's chart, she may not be very attracted to him sexually. Because his masculine, sexual side, doesn't connect well with her energies; she's not 'in tune' with that side of him.


I wonder if the same applies to the woman's Mars (or Venus?); not sure.

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posted June 19, 2014 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
From what I've noticed, it's the other way around.

If the man's Mars doesn't do much in the woman's chart, she may not be very attracted to him sexually. Because his masculine, sexual side, doesn't connect well with her energies; she's not 'in tune' with that side of him.


I wonder if the same applies to the woman's Mars (or Venus?); not sure.


No, i disagree. His Mars is unaspected by my planets (major aspects lacking), although there is a semisquare to Venus and Neptune (mp of my Venus/Neptune) and an exact conjunction to my Juno.

And yet he is the only one i feel so attracted to both physically and on a soul level.

But that of course could be explained by Mars exactly squaring his Venus and exactly opposing his Uranus. BTW, both my Mars and his Uranus are our 8th house rulers.

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posted June 19, 2014 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoujiroSeta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
From what I've noticed, it's the other way around.

If the man's Mars doesn't do much in the woman's chart, she may not be very attracted to him sexually. Because his masculine, sexual side, doesn't connect well with her energies; she's not 'in tune' with that side of him.


I wonder if the same applies to the woman's Mars (or Venus?); not sure.


Interesting. Ive noticed the opposite.

I had this with someone in college

My venus opposition her mars (2.20 degrees)
My venus opposition her Uranus (0.18 degrees)
My moon sextile her mars (1.44)
My uranus conjuct her mars (3.30)
My ASC conjunct her mars (3.08)
My jupiter trine her mars (0.55)

My mars squares her jupiter (3.3)

I liked her body and thought she was cute, but I didn't feel any urge to want to make things physical. I don't mean to sound boastful, but I could tell she was very attracted to me.

Also had the same aspects as above with a woman at work, except venus/uranus and mars/uranus. I thought she was cute, but she was very attracted to me.

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posted June 19, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
it's okay, unaspected or less aspected Mars does NOT mean he is not sexually interested.

I've seen it in too many synastries between lovers to recognise it is not an indication of lack of sexual attraction.

Example would be Humphry Bogart - Lauren Bacall - the only major aspect to his Mars is a trine from her Mercury.
The couple was famous for their legendary steamy sexual connection.


but Lauren has her Sun and other personal planets in Virgo. You know Mercury is the ruler of Virgo

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posted June 19, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh. I'm wondering if your MARS is relatively unaspected in your composite, would the progressions creating aspects indicate points at which action might be taken?

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posted June 19, 2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SoujiroSeta:
Mars-mercury isn't about sexual attraction persay, but more like what someone says (mercury) in response to another person's action (mars). Have had it with several people, hard aspects, and it can make communication very difficult. I was always mars. Every time I did something (mars), they would criticize it (mercury).

In your synastry, iirc, your mars conjunts his venus at 4 degrees. Its there, but, imo, it's pretty wide. His mars is unaspected.

You have a venus/uranus DW for attraction, but I think mars based attractions are more action/physical oriented. Mars attraction aspects, especially hard aspects, create more of a "I want to get physical with you", "I want to rip your clothes off" type thing.

So you're both attracted to each other physically, but his unaspected mars and your wide mars to his venus conjunction could point to an incompatibility when it comes to actually getting physical/sexually.

Even if someone had an unaspected mars in their natal, not aspecting their mars in synastry could lead to them not taking action towards the other person. Since their mars is unaspected in natal they might not have a problem with that. Now, if your mars in active in natal, an unaspected mars in synastry/composite might be problematic as that side of you wants to come out but has trouble doing so.

In composite, you have a 4 degree sun sextile mars. Which might be felt some degree. Overall the synastry and composite don't show a lot of action (mars) from both your sides.
So, going based on that alone, I would assume things would be mellow action wise.


I don't really agree with this. A 4 degr. conjunction between major attractors Venus and Mars is definitely not a wide one. Conjunction between Venus and Mars in the same sign are felt up to the usual 10 deg., especially if there is a DW.

IMO,it is very important: where his Mars falls (if in a sexual house, Mars will borrow some of the energy, feel sexual towards the person); the house his Mars rules, the house your Mercury rules. But generally I agree that Venus or Mars unaspected in a synastry by at least one love planet is not very strong for long term attraction.

When a woman is Mars and conjuncts a guy' Venus, she is usually the chaser. Maybe your boyfriend likes to be chased and "borrows" some of this energy.

Bogie's Mars is in opposition to Lauren Bacall/s Pluto, so definitely not unaspected by a sexual planet, not to mention that her Pluto rules her 5th house, his Mars is intercepted co-ruler of his 12th. The opposition is part of a cross with his Moon (he has Moon square Mars in natal) sitting right on her IC. Her IC/MC is crossing his interception. So, a powerful long-term physical attraction here...Mars/Pluto is the furthest away from an unespected sexual Mars, with Pluto being its highest octave.

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posted June 19, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
Well, the Mars - Pluto opposition is 5 degrees orb, too wide.
Mercury to Mars is basically the only major aspect to his Mars
They do have a semi sextile and a quincunx Venus- Mars DW which resulted in a square in the Composite.

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posted June 19, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
^^
Well, the Mars - Pluto opposition is 5 degrees orb, too wide.
Mercury to Mars is basically the only major aspect to his Mars
They do have a semi sextile and a quincunx Venus- Mars DW which resulted in a square in the Composite.

I disagree with this, sis

The opposition is 4 deg. orb as per astro pdf. But even if it were 5 or 6, being part of a major cross with the Moon and her angles, and since Mars and Pluto are important ruler here, personally, I would never discount that cross - it's one of their major attraction factor, being an opposition and such a sexual one. His Mars is also conjunct her Amor, her Mercury conjunct his Amor. The semisextile between Venus and Mars is apparently out of orb.

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posted June 19, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Khloe and Lamar Odom also have great sexual chemistry together ( despite emotional mismatch), and his Mars is completely unaspected.

Prince Charles's Mars only aspects Camilla's Urnaus by a 3 degree opposition and nothing else. They mesh together really well.

Jennifer Aniston and Justin theroux
- his Mars is unaspected

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posted June 19, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Khloe and Lamar Odom also have great sexual chemistry together ( despite emotional mismatch), and his Mars is completely unaspected.

Prince Charles's Mars only aspects Camilla's Urnaus by a 3 degree opposition and nothing else. They mesh together really well.

Jennifer Aniston and Justin theroux
- his Mars is unaspected


It is possible. Personally, I haven't seen a good one without it. But maybe their personalized sex planet is very aspected?? For instance, their 8th ruler is Mercury and it is very aspected by the woman?

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posted June 19, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I disagree with this, sis

The opposition is 4 deg. orb as per astro pdf. But even if it were 5 or 6, being part of a major cross with the Moon and her angles, and since Mars and Pluto are important ruler here, personally, I would never discount that cross - it's one of their major attraction factor, being an opposition and such a sexual one. His Mars is also conjunct her Amor, her Mercury conjunct his Amor. The semisextile between Venus and Mars is apparently out of orb.


it's a 4.5 wide aspect, its too wide for Pluto.

And the Mercury-Mars trine is wide too - 5 degrees orb, astro.com doesnt even show it, so basically his Mars is unaspected!

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posted June 19, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at Camilla and Charles...never felt like exploring their sex life until now, to be honest

His Mars receives only two aspects, indeed: the opp from Uranus and a quincunx from her Mercury/Priapus (not a bad one, let's not go into details though). His 8th ruler is....Uranus...sitting lonely up there. What a mystery! and he is a Scorpio Sun!

But...her Uranus is her 8th ruler too...and his Mars falls in her 5th...conjunct her Juno and Vertex...maybe this is helpful for them lol

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posted June 19, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lo,

and get this - not only his Mars is poorly aspected by her planets, just Uranus opposition, but the rulers of his 5th, 7th and 8th houses are completely unaspected by her!
his Moon is unaspected, too

but the ruler of his 4th house is heavily aspected.

theirs is an example of undying love spanning thru decades. You should study and learn and drop the stereotypes :d

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posted June 19, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Lo,

and get this - not only his Mars is poorly aspected by her planets, just Uranus opposition, but the rulers of his 5th, 7th and 8th houses are completely unaspected by her!


You're right!

Do you think they do it? (ugh..what a picture)

Maybe it's all about power and intellect there. And they say power is the strongest aphrodisiac


Anyway, their sex life is quite a mystery (thank god!)

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posted June 19, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:

but the ruler of his 4th house is heavily aspected.

theirs is an example of undying love spanning thru decades. You should study and learn and drop the sterotypes :d


She probably reminds him of his mother

But you're right, it's a synastry worth studying in detail, I think it's based a lot on similarity/familiarity - no wonder the 4th house.

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posted June 19, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, what do you have against a man's Mars being heavily aspected in synastry? Why not wanting the best for the poor fellow?

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posted June 19, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
BTW, what do you have against a man's Mars being heavily aspected in synastry? Why not wanting the best for the poor fellow?

Haha...

Im here to give hope to the unaspected Marses...

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posted June 19, 2014 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Haha...

Im here to give hope to the unaspected Marses...


hehehe the Goddess of Justice for Unaspected Marses!

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posted June 19, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
hehehe the Goddess of Justice for Unaspected Marses!

something like that

you'll remember that when your next lovah has his Mars jumping around alone..

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posted June 20, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It is possible. Personally, I haven't seen a good one without it. But maybe their personalized sex planet is very aspected?? For instance, their 8th ruler is Mercury and it is very aspected by the woman?

His 8th house ruler is saturn, and mine is uranus. They make a lot of aspect but isn't really sexual planets:S

I feel attracted to him, but sometimes I actually wonder that we could make great friends instead, cause it's sure sensual and intimate between us, but it's not HOT like a lot of mars aspect would make it:P

He has a gemini mars in 12th house and mine is a virgo mars in 4th house…

In the synastry his mars falls in my 12th house, and my mars falls in his 5th house together with my venus, sun and mercury! And his pluto falls in my 5th house also…

No planets falls in the 8th house, but I do notice that his 8th house ruler Saturn also sits in his 8th house, and is trine my sun

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