posted June 30, 2014 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
?? Isn't her Venus squaring his Mars and Lilith opp? And opposing her Lust?

And I just remembered what I forgot earlier: His Lilith is conjuncting her NN.

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Yes, Lilith NN is very interesting. I don't see Venus square Mars as a separative aspect, especially here, it is connected in a closed triangle with Moon the other Venus, it is pure physical attraction, plus his Mars receives other major aspects as well. His Mars has been doing very fine for a long time. Also in connection with Lilith/Lust (opp) makes for a powerful physical attraction. His Venus/Juno has been doing fine too, look how he is the apex of the Kite. But maybe a Mars square Venus needs a softer aspect between the other Mars Venus or Moon Mars for mutuality. To be honest, both her sexual/romantic planets (Venus and Mars) are not very supported in this relationship and this was somehow projected on the man.

posted June 30, 2014 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
To be honest, both her sexual/romantic planets (Venus and Mars) are not very supported in this relationship and this was somehow projected on the man.

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Can I ask how is it projected? You know I have a bad synastry case myself ^^.

posted June 30, 2014 02:30 PM            

Yess I also still look for the magi Cinderella's (before I ultimately come out with my true progressed passion) AND the magi sexual aspects.
With his wife he has a tight Chiron/Venus quincunx (her chiron). But her Chiron is also quincunx his Mars, a lovely YOD!
Chiron would feel the most according to tms.
HIS Chiron is quincunx her Moon, sextile her Venus, opp. her Uranus and trine her Neptune.

As for the sexual aspects between them..
His Juno/Venus conjunction (he must be UBER-sexual!) is making a Yod with her Venus/Mars sextile! Hmmm..

Her Juno is making a tight Mystical Triangle with his Saturn/Sun square.. in which his Saturn quincunx to her Juno (that would be WAR! ~ according to the-magi-society).

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His new one..

Her Chiron tightly trine his Jupiter.
His Chiron square her Moon, opp. her Pluto/Merc. conjunction, tightly trine her Nept.

His Juno is only conj. her SN.
Her Juno square his Venus, quincunx his Mars.

posted June 30, 2014 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Can I ask how is it projected? You know I have a bad synastry case myself ^^.

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This is not exactly a bad synastry

Well, it's complicated, but let's say it works a bit like this: the woman's Venus is not very stimulated in the synastry, so if you look at it as "femininity", in time, her femininity instead of developing and evolving as a result of this connection, it diminishes, it's a bit blocked. Life, work, problems, children etc. don't help either (although many women become more feminine after becoming mothers. The man begins to feel or maybe his masculinity continues to develop, whilst her femininity not (look how aspected his Mars is) at some point, he no longer perceives her as an attractive woman.

However, these two have been like two lovebirds almost until the end, there has been that "energy" between them, one can feel that. BUT...I have noticed this "other" woman is very feminine (voice, manners, clothes, great physical shape), whilst the wife has neglected her looks lately, gained some weight etc. It sounds superficial, but look how it works.

posted June 30, 2014 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Maybe I've been underestimating the regenerative potential of trines.

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posted June 30, 2014 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
JJJ,

Yess I also still look for the magi Cinderella's (before I ultimately come out with my true progressed passion) AND the magi sexual aspects.
With his wife he has a tight Chiron/Venus quincunx (her chiron). But her Chiron is also quincunx his Mars, a lovely YOD!
Chiron would feel the most according to tms.
HIS Chiron is quincunx her Moon, sextile her Venus, opp. her Uranus and trine her Neptune.

As for the sexual aspects between them..
His Juno/Venus conjunction (he must be UBER-sexual!) is making a Yod with her Venus/Mars sextile! Hmmm..

Her Juno is making a tight Mystical Triangle with his Saturn/Sun square.. in which his Saturn quincunx to her Juno (that would be WAR! ~ according to the-magi-society).

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posted June 30, 2014 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is not exactly a bad synastry

Well, it's complicated, but let's say it works a bit like this: the woman's Venus is not very stimulated in the synastry, so if you look at it as "femininity", in time, her femininity instead of developing and evolving as a result of this connection, it diminishes, it's a bit blocked. Life, work, problems, children etc. don't help either (although many women become more feminine after becoming mothers. The man begins to feel or maybe his masculinity continues to develop, whilst her femininity not (look how aspected his Mars is) at some point, he no longer perceives her as an attractive woman.

However, these two have been like two lovebirds almost until the end, there has been that "energy" between them, one can feel that. BUT...I have noticed this "other" woman is very feminine (voice, manners, clothes, great physical shape), whilst the wife has neglected her looks lately, gained some weight etc. It sounds superficial, but look how it works.

He said to her: "With this woman, I've discovered it can be different" (referring to her general feminine manner, sweetness etc. not sex which hadn't happened yet at that point).

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No, I'm not saying their synastry is bad, just mine though . Thanks for clarifying Leeloo, great explanation as always

posted June 30, 2014 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by jjj:
this feels Lilith to me.

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posted June 30, 2014 04:00 PM            

Lilith makes you feel so carnally/compulsively attracted that the reason/logic/pride doesnt count any more, you HAVE TO HAVE that person NO MATTER WHAT. If a man leaves a 20 yrs marriage in a blink, it smells Lilith... and the two dont even need to be compatible on other levels and it can be a big mistake (or not). Only time will tell.

posted June 30, 2014 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:

Chiron is a delicate planet and quincunx does not mean balance. I would even say that that configuration helped the couple to drift apart

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posted June 30, 2014 04:40 PM            

Reg. the progressed synastry, my big guess is this;

They came together during an applying progressed/natal Venus-Venus opposition.

At the beginning of 1993, HER progressed Venus was at 29 Aqua. (her pr. Jupiter at 28 Leo)

They ALREADY share a Sun/Venus opposition in their Synastry at the-same-degree!;

- his natal Venus: 28 LEO
- her natal Sun: 29 Aqua

posted June 30, 2014 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
THE WIFE:

Reg. the progressed synastry, my big guess is this;

They came together during an applying progressed/natal Venus-Venus opposition.

At the beginning of 1993, HER progressed Venus was at 29 Aqua. (her pr. Jupiter at 28 Leo)

They ALREADY share a Sun/Venus opposition in their Synastry at the-same-degree!;

- his natal Venus: 28 LEO
- her natal Sun: 29 Aqua

Ok, this for now. I'm just at the beginning of my progressed research here. It already took much of my energy to get the right charts in my database (I will move them after the case is over, don't worry lee)

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posted June 30, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You think Mars and Chiron are always difficult, Enneline? You may be right, it's a tough contact...and so close.

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posted June 30, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
No, not always but if it's involved in quincunxes and hard aspects to important personal planets (rulers)
Hey, my chart with my gay was far better

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absolutely!

you and mr.gay - liz taylor and richard burton - sun conjunct moon, sun opp moon

posted June 30, 2014 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
absolutely!

you and mr.gay - liz taylor and richard burton - sun conjunct moon, sun opp moon

ehhh, better luck next time, don't worry

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Yeah, but Liz and her Dick have been married and divorced twice...not what I call a satisfying relationship

I still need to study a lot of synastries; i mean the one with my gay was marriage-like and feelings were unrequited. This synastry is interesting but I wouldn't have guessed that they were love birds for decades But i am going to take a closer look; i am sure I would find out more

posted July 01, 2014 08:33 AM            

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Yeah, but Liz and her Dick have been married and divorced twice...not what I call a satisfying relationship

I still need to study a lot of synastries; i mean the one with my gay was marriage-like and feelings were unrequited. This synastry is interesting but I wouldn't have guessed that they were love birds for decades But i am going to take a closer look; i am sure I would find out more

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posted July 01, 2014 11:40 PM            

It's c o m p l e t e l y impossible their separation/divorce or name it.....

Leeloo.. promise me, will you keep me updated about this case?

This can't be true at THIS MOMENT In time!

His progressed HELIO Earth/Moon: 28'51 Aqua
Her progressed HELIO Venus: 27'19 Aqua

(its climax ^ early 2017)

^^ an applying one! And which! LOVE from the very verry verrry core of their being.. how's that ever possible when being abandoned like that?

posted July 02, 2014 12:30 AM            

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^^ an applying one! And which! LOVE from the very verry verrry core of their being.. how's that ever possible when being abandoned like that?

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posted July 02, 2014 04:22 AM            

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HELP!

It's c o m p l e t e l y impossible their separation/divorce or name it.....

Leeloo.. promise me, will you keep me updated about this case?

This can't be true at THIS MOMENT In time!

His progressed HELIO Earth/Moon: 28'51 Aqua
Her progressed HELIO Venus: 27'19 Aqua

(its climax ^ early 2017)

^^ an applying one! And which! LOVE from the very verry verrry core of their being.. how's that ever possible when being abandoned like that?

as a knife in my..

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Let face the fact... progressed compos... khmm... astrology sucks! ))

I dont think Sun-Venus is strong enough.... it looks to me that sun and venus are often very close in compos and progressed compos, so this alone it not maybe enough strong marker. Im curious about his progressed compo with the other woman.