posted July 06, 2014 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Danke schon, Enneline, you're too kind to say this

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posted July 06, 2014 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by fastbeat:
Thanks Enneline. I see what you mean... but I feel like it's hard to deny the attraction, especially with the Sun-moon, moon-moon, sun-venus/mars aspects. Or am I being too basic in my interpretation? After all, the 7th house is merely a projection, an idealization.. Wonder what you think? You made some quick observations there!

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of course those aspects sound awesome but they are not enough to determine mutual attraction.
I once had sun/moon conj. and opp. and double whammy venus/mars aspects with someone I even never had sex with and who did not find me attractive (ok, he was gay )
My venus squares and trines the Pluto and Neptune of generations and I have not been raped yet.
Her Mars on his sun...okay, great, but conj. are hard and can go either way and what does his sun mean to him? It's the ruler of his MC and that's not an attractive point for everyone.
Look, what he needs and wants and look if she would be able to statisfy

posted July 06, 2014 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
... I mean being attracted to someone is not like a cross we have to bear ...

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You are seeing what I am, right? URA-NEP conjunction in 8H? ... In shadow? In CAPRICORN? With a SATURN=VENUS/MARS? And all that AQU!

posted July 06, 2014 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
You are seeing what I am, right? URA-NEP conjunction in 8H? ... In shadow? In CAPRICORN? With a SATURN=VENUS/MARS? And all that AQU!

Trust me -- it's a 'cross to bear'. I completely relate to her wanting to head for the hills!

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posted July 06, 2014 04:43 PM            

That's a VERY intense composite, though. They're going to have a lot of fun dealing with THAT intensity. I hope they can approach it honestly and with maturity. No other way.

posted July 06, 2014 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay, I don't see the synastric markers, and the keys lie in taking their charts individually, and analysing the natals first. Hers is very clear.

That's a VERY intense composite, though. They're going to have a lot of fun dealing with THAT intensity. I hope they can approach it honestly and with maturity. No other way.

I do think there's a Soulmate connexion. They're likely close to Ascension. Not this lifetime, perhaps, but soon.

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posted July 06, 2014 05:30 PM            

I DO see some very fascinating connexions here, but they're missing the Twin Flame markers. Soulmates, definitely -- likely with extensive history.

Think of the synastry, composites -- especially Helio and Draco -- like a map.

The key is to begin with the natals. May I see his, too?

posted July 06, 2014 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
No worries. I have my own jargony shorthand I lapse into -- combined with my passion for total holistic chart synthesis -- I can see how I can lose people. My apologies.

I DO see some very fascinating connexions here, but they're missing the Twin Flame markers. Soulmates, definitely -- likely with extensive history.

Think of the synastry, composites -- especially Helio and Draco -- like a map.

The key is to begin with the natals. May I see his, too?

They're both EROS conjunct ALMA; I find that interesting.

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posted July 06, 2014 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
His attraction planets (Venus and Mars) do not aspect her "feminine" planets, I'm afraid she's more attracted to him, but a Cancer Moon is much better for her, this combo won't satisfy her in the long run either.

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posted July 06, 2014 07:40 PM            

This is hardly a third-dimensional relationship. This is soul-based, and karmic.

posted July 06, 2014 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
They have stelium on stellium , and they're practically astrotwins ...

... a Cancer Moon is much better for her, this combo won't satisfy her in the long run either.

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Seems a bit far for astro-twins. A month and some change? I typically cut it off after a week -- or two, depending. Sometimes the patterns repeat after two, and you'll find great complementarity.

As to the CANCER MOON -- could you show me why you've come to this conclusion? It seems odd. Are you going off of her 8H URA-NEP? If so, I see the logic -- except that it's a ways off. Something she'll have to grow into.

In the meanwhile, she's saddled with a potent 9H AQU stellium. Cancer, whether MOON or SUN, seems an odd choice. While she may be surprisingly Lunar, it's not at all in the traditional ways. Rather, she'll be seeking to subvert, transform, revolutionise, and otherwise rebel against the more traditional 'lunar' expressions.

I just don't think a 4H 7R is going to be enough to create harmony. His AQU SUN is bang-up in terms of what she actually needs -- and if he can grow into that SATURN, it'll be a lovely complement to her URA, don't you think?

posted July 06, 2014 08:09 PM            

This is almost geometric perfection. The symmetry -- oh, God, the symmetry is BEAUTIFUL.

VENUS-MARS in 9H
VENUS-MARS in 3H

GAH!

Plus, he's all CAP. He'll naturally be drawing out that tucked away URA-NEP that's hidden in her 8H, afraid to assert itself.

Meanwhile, it's not a terrible culture shock -- he's got AQU for the journey.

No, no, this is perfect. You're just not looking deeply enough. It's all there.

I can see WHY you keep looking. It just keeps beautifully unfolding, doesn't it? Amazing.

He, the 4H SUN and MOON, she, the 10H SUN.

Their synastry mimics her Solar opposition: 'Soul Conflict #1', if you will. That complex synchrony she's got between JUPITER and her 9H -- the one which holds ALL that AQU energy. JUPITER, you'll recall, is her 7R. This is why her 4H JUPITER is so central to this conflict, tightly opposing the core of her identity, her 10H SUN.

Ultimately, she needs to understand its Capricornian function. She needs to make peace with SATURN. It's what stands between her finding interpersonal harmony -- as CHIRON will reflect.

This is an important synastry. I pivotal relationship. But, like fine wine, it's got to age. SATURN won't rush. SATURN requires maturity, experience, and wisdom. They're very young; they've got that in their favour.

They will complement, ultimately, and reflect upon each other. But there will be fits and starts. That's simply to be expected.

Notice his VENUS and MARS combination?

Notice what's within it?

NEPTUNE-URANUS.

I rest my case!

Yes, there's growing to do. But it will absolutely be worth it.

posted July 06, 2014 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
... His attraction planets (Venus and Mars) do not aspect her "feminine" planets ...

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But they don't need to.

His VENUS and MARS are conjunct her URANUS and NEPTUNE. URANUS is the switch for that WHOLE AQU stellium -- MOON and VENUS, included. You can't get more 'feminine'.

Plus (and I love this part) what's NEPTUNE, but his 5R!

His VENUS conjunct URANUS finds beautiful reciprocity in AQU VENUS. Yes. Absolutely, fastbeat. Spot on.

Frankly, his VENUS-URANUS shows her whole AQU stellium to appeal on many levels.

And what's his VENUS, but his 7R!

It's all over the place.

The reason he may be 'denying' the attraction is the same reason those with a predominance of CAP and AQU do in youth. They'd prefer the soundness of structure and logic. Order, reason, sense.

This is soul-shaking, foundation-gutting stuff. Nowhere ready for that. This is the sort of attraction which builds across decades and survives lifetimes.

posted July 07, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Welcome!

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posted October 24, 2015 10:49 PM            

she approached me again. they seem to have drifted apart. barely talking one-on-one, but still with a common group of friends.

She says he is rarely on her mind, especially not with the same intensity as last year.