posted July 06, 2014 03:04 PM            

...and welcome to Lindaland!

posted July 06, 2014 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi

...and welcome to Lindaland!

Could you post the actual synastry (the chart in astro.com)?

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posted July 06, 2014 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Could certainly be. Astrology is POTENTIAL.

I'd like to see both synastry and composite. I'm guessing it might be tightly concentrated. Unless there's honesty and maturity, they're rough.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is a natal chart.
You should choose the option synastry, and then the composite, and upload them through a photo sharing service like photobucket or tinypic.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Could certainly be. Astrology is POTENTIAL.

I'd like to see both synastry and composite. I'm guessing it might be tightly concentrated. Unless there's honesty and maturity, they're rough.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:31 PM            

Are your birth times correct or just random, as it looks?

posted July 06, 2014 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Much better

Are your birth times correct or just random, as it looks?

Also, I'm a bit confused about your initial message. Does it mean the boy said no to getting involved with the girl? And what did you mean by "denying" the attraction?

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The girl has reported the birth times to me. So I have calculated based on it. She seemed confident.
The boy has at different points been vague about getting involved with the girl. He is 'denying' the attraction in the sense, he does not seem to be admitting to being attracted to her. Apparently, he has been hurt in the past in relationships. The girl has reported that she denied it initially too, but has gradually come to accept it, following which she decided to seek astrological help. I'm sensing some sort of karmic involvement here.

posted July 06, 2014 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is a natal chart.

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Oof, and what a natal. Look at those CHIRON oppositions to the AQUA stellium. Healing 'The Wound' is a central focus of this individual's life. Across the 3H and 9H? Very telling. 7R is in tight opposition to the SUN, too -- IC-R.

That's a very essential balancing act, likely to be performed through relationships -- tough ones, though, with SATURN=VENUS/MARS. Deeply affecting, with MOON there.

URA conjunct 8H NEP, too. Sexual relationships (as well as emotionally intense ones -- where there's a potent sharing of intimacy) are going to be a battleground for this, attempting to balance that CHIRON.

This is a bit of a hotbed. Got to watch for escapist tendencies with NEPTUNE being that stellium's only outlet away from CHIRON. Addictive personality.

It bounces right back to the SUN, too, given the dynamics. That 7R (JUPITER) feeds right back into the Solar opposition. 10H. Workaholic. Ahh. That's likely where the addiction is being fuelled. If the expression isn't spilling out into the 8H, any interpersonal distress is being exacerbated (overwhelming) and thrown back into the SUN-JUPITER opposition.

It's a game of extremes -- either it's swinging from sexuality to workaholism, or frustrated career ambitions are being thrown onto the addiction spectrum, and 'resolved' through escapism through [pick your poison]. In the 8H, sex is my guess -- of the complicated variety -- not all casual, not all deep -- after all, we're dealing with AQU and PIS here.

There's a beautiful fusion of the core energies here -- SUN and MOON -- in the 8H. If she can just find her way out of that opposition, there's spectacular harmony to be had in powerful, transformative relationships -- which are needed for her evolutionary development (SUN sextile NNODE).

She can then go on to be a natural teacher and spiritual guide -- wonderful high-placed SUN and 9H lunar stellium.

But -- criminy -- those oppositions!

posted July 06, 2014 03:48 PM            

Her chart is all about interpersonal dynamics, and healing from very deep wounds in regards to balancing polar energies -- light and dark, male and female, projective and receptive -- and so on.

posted July 06, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oof, and what a natal. Look at those CHIRON oppositions to the AQUA stellium. Healing 'The Wound' is a central focus of this individual's life. Across the 3H and 9H? Very telling. 7R is in tight opposition to the SUN, too -- IC-R.

But -- criminy -- those oppositions!

Gonna have to think a way around those. It's too much of a loop. One big Goldberg contraption. The energies are being tossed, exchanged, and tossed again -- all about the chart -- but there's no immediate resolution. That may be seen by progressions.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by fastbeat:
The girl has reported the birth times to me. So I have calculated based on it. She seemed confident.
The boy has at different points been vague about getting involved with the girl. He is 'denying' the attraction in the sense, he does not seem to be admitting to being attracted to her. Apparently, he has been hurt in the past in relationships. The girl has reported that she denied it initially too, but has gradually come to accept it, following which she decided to seek astrological help. I'm sensing some sort of karmic involvement here.

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Personally, I don't believe in this "denying" or "being afraid" of the attraction stuff. If the boy says he's not interested, he most likely isn't at this point. Boys are very direct. When they're attracted, they show it one way or another. I also don't understand when you say: the girl gradually accepted she's attracted to him, I mean being attracted to someone is not like a cross we have to bear. Sometimes we are attracted to people who aren't attracted to us and viceversa, it's a common thing, unfortunately it happens, and when it happens, we give up that attraction. IMO, the path or unrequited love is a waste of time and a path of useless pain.

A totally subjective opinion here, since you raised these questions.

posted July 06, 2014 03:52 PM            

Oh, no WONDER this feels familiar. I don't have a similar natal to her by a long shot, but that chart SCREAMS similarity to mine with my Twin's. Hell, the whole 'denial' thing is identical.

Okay.

Plug in these for EVERYTHING.

JUNO
ALMA (390)
ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)
KARMA (3811)
DESTINN (6583)

So, so rare to find composites like this. Wonder if my hunch is correct. It's too highly concentrated to not be. And, God, look at that synastry. Ugh. Yep, yep, yep.

posted July 06, 2014 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I mean being attracted to someone is not like a cross we have to bear.

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posted July 06, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
ah, LeeLoo, you are soooo damned helpful. Honestly, you may expect soooooooo much in return according the laws of universe

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posted July 06, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Plug in these for EVERYTHING.

JUNO
ALMA (390)
ISIS (42)
OSIRIS (1923)
KARMA (3811)
DESTINN (6583)

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posted July 06, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by fastbeat:
Wow Indigo! What an explanation! Are you suggesting that she must reflect on her Sun-Jupiter Opposition? Is that also impacting the relationship? What is your opinion on how the relationship dynamics play out? Funny you mentioned that she could go on to be a spiritual guide- Neptune is currently transiting her tenth house and is inching toward her sun!

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JUPITER is the 7R; it has a direct impact upon her relationships, and since it's opposing her SUN so tightly -- it boomerangs right back to the core of her identity. This energy is locked in a push-pull dynamic, like a game of air hockey, in which the puck never goes in one goal or the other. And JUPITER is a very big battery. Combined with the SUN? Oh, gracious. There's a LOT of energy being 'siphoned' off from the chart there across the 10H / 4H. She's likely locked in the age-old battle of Career versus Family -- settling down versus ambitiously making a name for herself. It's the 'give of self to' versus 'use energy to MAKE self X,' thing.

Meanwhile, she has a whole other set of oppositions with which to contend -- these stemming from early childhood in 3H, influencing how she thinks, handles those early relationships, and can impact communication and learning style. That's CHIRON (she likely questioned her intelligence, or had some early learning issues, perhaps autism spectrum?) which has deeply impacted her self concept which is naturally positioned to impact the world at large in a big way -- higher learning, spiritual evolution, higher calling.

Not good!

So something's got to heal CHIRON. Meanwhile, damage is done to the AQU stellium. SATURN=VENUS/MARS isn't easy. She's withholding the awesome power of her natural charisma and creative potential. She's gotta let that light shine! It's RIGHT there with her MOON. She has such a wonderful ability to be so compassionate, far-reaching, 'mother millions', and use the incredible power of her SUN and MOON in harmony, once they've combined as a transformative force (in 8H), tearing down old, outworn structures, and rebuilding them in a more spiritual, liberated image.

She's a natural-born liberator who's lost access to her innate, God-given power.

I THINK this man's around to help give it back to her. I THINK. But his SATURN's there. He's gotta clear a lot of his karma first, before he can help her.

posted July 06, 2014 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by fastbeat:
Your excitement is infectious Indigo. But where can I find a chart calculator that allows me to plug in those asteroids? Thus far, I have only been able to look at Juno, Vertex, Eros and Psyche.

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Sorry about that. It IS exciting!

Go to astro.com.

posted July 06, 2014 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Danke schon, Enneline, you're too kind to say this

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And this comes from my heart

posted July 06, 2014 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Sorry about that. It IS exciting!

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posted July 06, 2014 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
And this comes from my heart

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