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LucieLemonade
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posted July 19, 2014 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just learning about un-aspected planets. I read that it can actually be quite powerful. It can motivate the person to really use that energy. This surprised me.

Now I wonder how this will relate in synastry.

His Pisces Mars squares my sun (3) and Nept (3), trines my Venus (5), asc (8) and Mars (8). There are some minor ones which are actually tighter, but I'll leave it at that for the sake of discussion.

What I'd like to know is how would the fact that his natal Mars is unaspected effect these aspects, if at all?

Or we can talk in general about the issue of how unaspects *natal* planets play out in syanstry.

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posted July 19, 2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Mars is very well aspected by your personal planets. Being Mars, even those wider aspects will eventually play out at some point, especially if you have some DW with them.

But I'm curious how "unaspected" his Mars is? No angle connections? No minor aspects?

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posted July 19, 2014 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been curious about it, too.

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posted July 19, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it will have a strong impact, feels very intense for the unaspected planet person.
But there might be a range as to how they feel about it, as it takes time to get used to it.

I have an unaspected Moon (though not really, it has an exact quinkunx to Saturn, but I read quinkunxes do not count in that. lol), and at least in friendships it seems I am seeking out women who are aspecting this. I have at least 2 friends whose Sun is conjunct my Moon. In one case it is Sun, Moon and Venus on my Moon; the other has Sun-Saturn-MC on my Moon.
Another friend has her Moon sextile my Moon, and Saturn opposing it, even that one seems to work.


As for synastry with romantic prospects that does not seem to be true. I have met men whose Sun were on my Moon, but there was no spark for me at all, howver other aspects are very effective. maybe cause they would make a closed circuit with my Saturn as well.

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on the plus side synastric aspects to an unaspected planet can provide a more steady access to the planet`s energies, it might not be so uncontrollable anymore. Of course that might also bring up dependancy issues for the unaspected person, feeling like they need the other party to access their own planet, or do so in a more conventional/ convenient manner.

Does not have to go that way, but in some instances it might. to me unaspected planets seem to be very hungry for input (external in this case of course), and if they get it, they might want more and more of that stuff.
Or they are so uncomfortable with the impact that they block it alltogether.

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posted July 19, 2014 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you all for your replies.

Do you guys think it makes the challenging aspects more challenging? TBH, those are what I'm more worried about. We seem to have a lot of really good stuff mixed with some very "bad" stuff. So much for even and balanced! LOL

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
His Mars is very well aspected by your personal planets. Being Mars, even those wider aspects will eventually play out at some point, especially if you have some DW with them.

But I'm curious how "unaspected" his Mars is? No angle connections? No minor aspects?


It's quite "unaspected". He has an inconjuct to the moon (2) and a half triangle thing to the Asc (0) & MC (2)
DW's with Mars we have: His is Picses, mine is Libra.

his mars trine my venus (8)
my mars sq his venus (4)
and mars trine mars (8)


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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Does not have to go that way, but in some instances it might. to me unaspected planets seem to be very hungry for input (external in this case of course), and if they get it, they might want more and more of that stuff.
Or they are so uncomfortable with the impact that they block it alltogether.

That's very intersesting. How do you think a Pisces Mars would play out? The Pisces Mars sort of freaks me out. It's not one I'm used to at all.


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I've been curious about it, too.
My crush's natal Saturn is unaspected in his chart but in synastry it opposes my Venus and trines my Mars. My feeling would be that his Saturn would finally feel useful and happy to get to work, feel special. Other interpretations i read online say that the unaspected planet would rather feel uncomfortable and confused being aspected in synastry... So, i dont know..

The "getting put to work" theory is interesting. Though I can see how maybe it's an uncomfortable energy that someone might not know what to do with.

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posted July 19, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Pisces?

I can`t say that just on the basis of a sign placement. Actually Pisces seems to be able to mimick every other sign-placement.

I`d say just get to know him well, and you will see.

I once was crushing on a Mars in Pisces-guy, and despite the astroreputation he was a straightforward, reliable, stable guy (Sun and Mercury in Aries, Moon, Venus and Juno in TAurus).

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posted July 19, 2014 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Of course that might also bring up dependancy issues for the unaspected person, feeling like they need the other party to access their own planet, or do so in a more conventional/ convenient manner.
Does not have to go that way, but in some instances it might. to me unaspected planets seem to be very hungry for input (external in this case of course), and if they get it, they might want more and more of that stuff.

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posted July 19, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's a half triangle? No quintile, septile, novile, semisextile, semisquare? Any love asteroid in conjunction? And you have a Venus/Mars DW, IMO.

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posted July 19, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

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on the plus side synastric aspects to an unaspected planet can provide a more steady access to the planet`s energies, it might not be so uncontrollable anymore. Of course that might also bring up dependancy issues for the unaspected person, feeling like they need the other party to access their own planet, or do so in a more conventional/ convenient manner.

Does not have to go that way, but in some instances it might. to me unaspected planets seem to be very hungry for input (external in this case of course), and if they get it, they might want more and more of that stuff.
Or they are so uncomfortable with the impact that they block it alltogether.


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posted July 19, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Of course that might also bring up dependancy issues for the unaspected person, feeling like they need the other party to access their own planet, or do so in a more conventional/ convenient manner.
Does not have to go that way, but in some instances it might. to me unaspected planets seem to be very hungry for input (external in this case of course), and if they get it, they might want more and more of that stuff.

ceri, this is so spot on.

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posted July 19, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

I am glad it resonated, it dawned on me just the moment I was writing it down.

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posted July 19, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mars in Pisces?

I once was crushing on a Mars in Pisces-guy, and despite the astroreputation he was a straightforward, reliable, stable guy (Sun and Mercury in Aries, Moon, Venus and Juno in TAurus).


He IS like that. So far. Plus super smart, sexy, fun and I'm totally smitten! (Aqua Sun/Merc/Venus, Leo moon, Mars Pisces)

It's probably a bad idea to be learning about astrology while starting a new relationship! Had I known half of what I know now, I bet my X and I wouldn't have made it half the time. LOL.

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What's a half triangle? No quintile, septile, novile, semisextile, semisquare? Any love asteroid in conjunction? And you have a Venus/Mars DW, IMO.


Apparently it's not a picture of a half triangle it's a picture of a 45 degree angle! No wonder I can never remember what it is. I won't forget now.

That's it.
Mars inconj moon and semi-sq Asc & MC.

But I haven't looked at the asteroids or vertex, etc. That's all like super advanced!


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posted July 19, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is his Mars the mdp of his ASC/MC square?

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posted July 19, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Is his Mars the mdp of his ASC/MC square?


err.....

how would I know that?
or rather, how would I find that out? (better question. )

ETA: His Mars is also sq his NN (2.5) . I missed that.

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posted July 19, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
C'mon Lucie See if Mars is between ASC and MC . Is ASC MC in square? and Mars in the middle of it?

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posted July 19, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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C'mon Lucie See if Mars is between ASC and MC . Is ASC MC in square? and Mars in the middle of it?

ohhh...ohhh. the pressure!!! I feel like i'm having an exam....
hold on! ......

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posted July 19, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
ohhh...ohhh. the pressure!!! I feel like i'm having an exam....
hold on! ......

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posted July 19, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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ohhh...ohhh. the pressure!!! I feel like i'm having an exam....
hold on! ......

Yes!

(did I win? LOL)

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posted July 19, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 19, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I (heart) you.

I guess that makes his Mars not totally unaspected. I'm still wondering if it will make "bad" things like my sun sq his mars harder or easier. I remember we discussed this aspect in another thread. I had that with my x husband as well.

This Aqua and I have a lot of squares. My Venus sq all his personal planets but the orbs are from 3-9, except it trines his Mars and his Saturn. My Venus is all over him. :P LOL

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posted July 19, 2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But if your Sun squares his Mars, your Sun is connected in 4th harmonic with all his angles. Why don't you post the synastry so that we can get it over with?


Seriously now, it's the best way to see the degree of compatibility. One aspect it's just one aspect. And aspecting an unspected Mars is not bad. The other way around is potentially bad.

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posted July 19, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
But if your Sun squares his Mars, your Sun is connected in 4th harmonic with all his angles. Why don't you post the synastry so that we can get it over with?


Seriously now, it's the best way to see the degree of compatibility. One aspect it's just one aspect. And aspecting an unspected Mars is not bad. The other way around is potentially bad.


More exam questions!? I'm going to have to figure that out...... Hold please.....

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posted July 19, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the practical exam Good luck!

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posted July 19, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
don't quote it though... let me know when you have it. I'd like to take it down.

editted..... 12h stuff you know!

ps, as i was logging in to photobucket, i realized that i have an old unused photobucket account with the user name "leeloudallas"!
pps. I did it! Yeah me!

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posted July 19, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's an A minus (next time with love asteroids, but without aspect lines to all - unless you want the A plus now ) But you did good

I'll study it and get back to you.


LOL on your user name

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