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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 11:13 AM Sun opposite Venus in synastry. Have you experienced it? Some interpretations online are rather negative, others but only a few, are positive. Someone mentioned that Romeo and Juliette had a double whammy Sun opposite Venus and they were notoriously drawn to each other. Other texts claim that DW Sun-Venus between charts overpower the rest of the synastry. IP: Logged
Barbiegirl19 unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 11:55 AM I think bringing R and J into this is kind of funny. No matter what they had in they're "charts and synastry" LOL they were apart of a fictional story, they were gonna be together and die together because that's how the author wrote their story. If anything I'd look at Shakespeare's chart, but even there is a dead end. Although I wouldn't go off of just one bad aspect, I'd rather take a square than an opposite especially with sun and venus. You literally have opposites, with two completely different views on love and two completely different personalities. No matter how passionate anyone claims this to be I wouldn't say that the passion is lasting. It leaves just as quickly as it appeared. Lots of tug and pull. Lots of misunderstanding. I think the descriptions are spot on. You'll need more harmonious aspects to keep it molded together, or it'll crumble pretty quickly. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 12:13 PM uh, Romeo and Juliet actually existed, you know. I wasn't there to tell for sure, however. And Shakespeare is not the one to create the story, btw. It was mentioned by Dante Alighieri before that, and another Italian author translated the real Italian story into a verse, before Dante. Shakespeare simply used the old Italian tale to create his plot. Fact. I don't see how anyone can gather their birth data, so I'd dismiss their synastry. I saw the synastry on Noel Ty's forum and it got me curious, but..noh, it can't be. anyway, don't want to sidetract the thread from the original Sun- Venus opposition theme. I was searching for it online, and Kim and Kanye popped up in the search - His Venus opposes her Sun and he thinks the world of her. hmmm. Funny enough, the article quotes Kanye's words for him saying that he and Kim were like Romeo And Juliet when they met. Kim, he said, is arguably the most beautiful woman in human history. IP: Logged
Barbiegirl19 unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 12:25 PM Despite Kim and Kayne having it they have a lot of harmonious, lasting synastry together. They make it work. They have the same moon signs. Their sun signs are great together. Those are HUGE. Regardless an opposite takes more work and effort than all of the others. Sun opposite venus will work if both parties work together and don't hold back with each other. Just like every other "bad" synastry aspect. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 12:49 PM Romeo and Juliet are based on an old tale from Babylon, Pyramus et Thisbe; though it might be totally possible that Romeo and Juliet (or similiar cases) existed in real history, too. It is sort of an archetypical story. However, I don`t think it is possible to get hands on their synastry. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 01:03 PM Oppositions are no bad aspects though, same modality, but compatible elements. They can work together and complement each other, and there is a great magnetism there, especially with a Yin and a Yang planet. A Mars-Mars-opposition or Sun-Mars-opposition might be more difficult though, but Sun-Moon-opposition or Sun-Venus-opposition sounds like a major attraction factor. Well I know it is my parents share the Sun-Moon-opposition, so I got to observe that from quite close up. Not sure about Kanye and Kim. They might be totally in love now, but who knows what is going to happen in the future? Of course it would be nice if they can make it work. They do have an interesting overlay-opposition on the ASC-DESC, too. Another attraction-factor. So it is not just Venus-Sun. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 02:11 PM ^^^ Kanye's birth time is unknown Rom and Jul is an old Verona tale depicted in several Italian stories told by different authors. Apparently, Rom and Jul were only 13 when they fell in love ( things were different back then). I doubt anyone has their birth data, though. It's not a rare love situation, thou. Tragic Love between people belonging to families at war with each other is as old as the time. IP: Logged
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013	posted July 19, 2014 02:12 PM I've had this with two guys I was totally totally crushed out, head over heel for them. Not a DW. I was completely gagga. But if their sun is opp my Venus then it's also conj my dsc so I can't say what happens with sun/Venus alone. In both cases it was unrequited until I got over them. Once I was over them, they came back to tell me they were totally into me. Sigh. ETA: I should read all the posts first... The first time this happened to me it was not at all fleeting. I was "in love" with him for years. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 02:14 PM quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: In both cases it was unrequited until I got over them. Once I was over them, they came back to tell me they were totally into me. Sigh. Sigh.. IP: Logged
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013	posted July 19, 2014 02:15 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: Sigh.. Tragic love stories of my life!! LOL At least no one had to die. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 02:24 PM quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: Tragic love stories of my life!! LOL At least no one had to die. That totally sucks. To be in love and not have it requited, to get finally over it only to find out they loved you, too. Dawn! How come you didn't feel the love from them, then? How did the Sun - Venus opposition in your case play out? You were the Venus, right? Were they not exactly your type but you nevertheless felt attracted to them? Was there a hard Saturn-Venus aspect in the synastry as well? IP: Logged
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013	posted July 19, 2014 02:39 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: That totally sucks. To be in love and not have it requited, to get finally over it only to find out they loved you, too. Dawn! How come you didn't feel the love from them, then? How did the Sun - Venus opposition in your case play out? You were the Venus, right? Were they not exactly your type but you nevertheless felt attracted to them? Was there a hard Saturn-Venus aspect in the synastry as well? Yes. I was Venus in both cases. And yes. I forgot about Saturn. Saturn is conj my dsc so their suns conj my dsc and Saturn. They both were very much my type in that they had this very Taurus look. Like, big guys with bull like bodies. The second was short but stocky. They were both really shy but gave off this sexy vibe, like they had secrets. I love shy guys. This is all very much what my Scorpio asc likes. I think I was too much for them. Too intense for their shyness. Maybe it was too difficult to tell me because of the shyness? The second one is in the middle of a very nasty divorce, is building his company, etc. So he has a lot going on and he basically says he has "nothing to give me". Seems a very Taurus thing, to want to be stable for a partner. I think it was bad timing in both cases with a bit of a "I'm not really _their_ type" thrown in. I don't know either TOB, but I bet I wasn't hitting their dsc in any way. IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 02:41 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: ^^^ Kanye's birth time is unknown Yes, but hers is known IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 03:16 PM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, but hers is known Ah, ok, I thought you said their respective angles overlaid each other. Yes, his Sun - Neptune is on her angle. Not a strong synastry, thou, but it is okay. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 03:17 PM Too bad, Lucie So, there was that vibe of "not exactly my type" coming from the Sun person... IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 03:32 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: Ah, ok, I thought you said their respective angles overlaid each other. Yes, his Sun - Neptune is on her angle. Not a strong synastry, thou, but it is okay. depends how we define strong. IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 03:47 PM IMO IP: Logged
Ceridwen unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 03:52 PM how would you define a strong synastry? (and I agree with you though this specific syn between K and K has its strong points, it doesn`t strike me as strong synastry per se) IP: Logged
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013	posted July 19, 2014 04:23 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: Too bad, Lucie So, there was that vibe of "not exactly my type" coming from the Sun person... Yes. It was my interpretation of what the sun person thought. I can't know for sure. I mean I was surprised when they eventually came back and told me they were interested. I remember reading an aspect that makes people out of synch in the romance/friendship thing. but I can't remember which one. IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 unregistered	posted July 19, 2014 04:38 PM quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: Yes. It was my interpretation of what the sun person thought. I can't know for sure. I mean I was surprised when they eventually came back and told me they were interested. I remember reading an aspect that makes people out of synch in the romance/friendship thing. but I can't remember which one. This is an interesting case for Mir, on the progressed synastry thread Give it a try. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7624 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted July 19, 2014 04:49 PM it turned out Kim and Kanye have a DW with their Suns and Venuses - an opposition and a square. well, Ceri, Saturn is missing from the action in their synastry, both their Saturns are unaspected in the synastry. A strong synastry would have at least something something with Saturn. Her Mars and Moon are unaspected. Their Plutos are unaspected except for the conjunction to the Nodes but not any aspects to planets or angles. Her Mercury only aspect is an opposition to his Mercury. Her Jupiter (chart ruler) is unaspected, well there is a trine to his Mercury. Uranus for both is unaspected, except for an opposition to his Mercury. need I say more.. IP: Logged
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013	posted July 19, 2014 05:12 PM quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: This is an interesting case for Mir, on the progressed synastry thread Give it a try. Hahaahha. I'll go read that thread now.... IP: Logged
Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 663 From: State of mind Registered: May 2015	posted July 22, 2018 05:35 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: it turned out Kim and Kanye have a DW with their Suns and Venuses - an opposition and a square. well, Ceri, Saturn is missing from the action in their synastry, both their Saturns are unaspected in the synastry. A strong synastry would have at least something something with Saturn. Her Mars and Moon are unaspected. Their Plutos are unaspected except for the conjunction to the Nodes but not any aspects to planets or angles. Her Mercury only aspect is an opposition to his Mercury. Her Jupiter (chart ruler) is unaspected, well there is a trine to his Mercury. Uranus for both is unaspected, except for an opposition to his Mercury. need I say more.. People forget that Kim was dodging Kanye for yeeeeeeears - guess sun in hard aspect in Kanyes case really wanted to catch her IP: Logged
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 949 From: Registered: Apr 2014	posted July 22, 2018 05:46 PM I have experience it. My Sun always opposite their Venus and my Venus square their Sun. so a DW. I don't really know how it worked though even though I've experienced it many times maybe because they were platonic relationships (don't get me wrong I don't mean that this leads to platonic relationships, I have other natal issues exolaining this). But I don't think Venus and Jupiter in hard aspects can be that bad to the point of being destructive foe the relationships like Saturn or Uranus. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 113215 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 27, 2018 05:50 PM Bump! IP: Logged

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