posted July 23, 2014 01:17 AM            

Btw, he's a Taurus male (with an Aquarius Ascendant) and I'm a Gemini female (with a Taurus Ascendant). How many have been there? lol

Sun Semi Sextile Sun (-0 degrees)
Sun Trine Moon (0 degrees)
Sun Square Vertex (-3 degrees)
Sun Trine Ascendant (2 degrees)
Sun Opposite Midheaven (-6 degrees)
Moon Trine Moon (7 degrees)
Moon Sesquiquadrate Venus (1 degree)
Moon Semi-Sextile Neptune (1 degree)
Moon Opposite Neptune (-8 degrees)
Moon Conjunct Psyche (4 degrees)
Moon Trine Ascendant (9 degrees)
Moon Conjunct Midheaven (8 degrees)
Venus Semi-Square Sun (0 degrees)
Venus Conjunct Moon (4 degrees)
Venus Conjunct Venus (4 degrees)
Venus Trine Saturn (0 degrees)
Venus Trine Pluto (-1 degrees)
Venus Conjunct North Node (3 degrees)
Venus Trine North Node (-3 degrees)
Venus Trine Vertex (1 degree)
Venus Semi-Sextile Ascendant (-1)

I'm going to skip around here and head on into some of the North Node, Vertex, Asteroid, and Angle aspects.

North Node Trine Saturn (-1 degree)
North Node Sextile Neptune (-0 degrees)
North Node Trine Pluto (1 degree)
North Node Trine Vertex (0 degrees)
*Sun Square Vertex (-3 degrees)
*Venus Trine Vertex (1 degree)
Saturn Conjunct Vertex (3 degrees)
Saturn Trine Vertex (2 degrees)
Neptune Sextile Vertex (2 degrees)
Neptune Trine Vertex (1 degree)
Pluto Conjunct Vertex (1 degree)
Pluto Sextile Vertex (2 degrees)
*North Node Trine Vertex (0 degrees)

VERTEX Semi Square VERTEX((1 degree) - can't find ANYTHING on this connection, but I assume the anit-Vertex's are therefore aspecting each other as well, along with everything else.)

Vertex Bi-Quintile Midheaven (0 degrees)
HIS EROS Sextiles MY PSYCHE (-5 degrees)

HIS ASCENDANT Conjuncts MY MIDHEAVEN (7 degrees)
MY IC Conjuncts HIS DESCENDANT (7 degrees)

Midheaven Sextile Midheaven (-2 degrees)

Like I said, there are many more connections. I'm not going to list them all out and leave my fingers unable to move for the next day or so because of so much incessant typing. There are also a lot of asteroid connections - within the respective asteroid field and also with inner and outer planets. There's also the outer planets themselves. If you wouldn't mind giving our chart a look at - or the aspect chart - I'd be more than happy to put it up.

Btw, he's 6 year's older than me, is a Month before me, but a day after me. He's two hours before my birth time, but four minutes past it as well. He was born in the Channel Islands - specifically the JERSEY Island. I was born in NEW JERSEY. Funny, huh?

posted July 23, 2014 05:45 AM            

I can show you my synastry with Michael Fassbender or Robert Redford. They are both extraordinary (the synastries), better than Paul and Joanne's: Sun/Moon DW, Venus/Mars DW, Venus/Moon DW, NN conjunct ASC (and other fated meeting markers) etc.

It doesn't mean we'll meet or that we are soulmates. So these "soulmate" findings are actually false positives.

That's why synastries should be cast only with people we have already met and have some sort of relationship with (apart from casting synastries with famous people for fun).

It doesn't mean we can't discuss here synastries with unknown people who attract us, so knock yourself out

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posted July 23, 2014 01:23 PM            

There's no grand delusions of me being a part of his life. Or him a part of mine. Still, the world is a big place and it's not to say that I might never see him or get the chance to say hello to him, but by the time that chance even has the slightest remote possibility of occurring (which is like 8 billion to 1), he and I could both be married to different people. People we may or may not have made a spiritual contract with before incarnating into this lifetime. And who knows - based on the findings I've made - he and I may meet in the next life or the lifetime after that (not even counting for the thousands of different dimensions or planes of existence that this could happen in) because of whatever unfinished business we have. He could be the average, unknown person with grandiose aspirations in that lifetime and I could be the worldly, publically idolized person. *shrugs* I'm just saying anything is possible and these connections are there for a reason. Just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean that they can't be a soulmate to someone - even an unknown someone.

I just never expected anything like this is all. When I did the synastry chart, I seriously didn't even think anything like this was going to happen. I looked at Paul and Joanne's chart and noticed how remarkably similar their natal charts and signs were. They were 5 years apart - along with being a month and a day apart. She was born a whole two hours and thirty minutes before him. He was Aquarius, she's a Pisces, but they both have the Capricorn Ascendant.

I thought, that with soulmates, there had to be some similarities like the ones they shared. So, I did the research to find someone like that and found my supposed soulmate. I did the chart and yeah...Still, I can't say I'm sad about it. I don't think finding a soulmate is a "false positive." Just because I can't be with him - or him with me - doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Frankly, I think, finding a soulmate at all is a joyous thing. Many people never get to find even one in their lifetimes. And yes, it makes me sad to know that I'll never get to know him, but to be honest, when I think about him, I feel something smiling on the inside. Like finding a long lost, old friend.

But I understand what you're saying. And I get it - it's nothing I haven't berated myself over since doing this. Sometimes I think it was stupid of me to go ahead and open the proverbial "Pandora's box," but I did it and now I'm aware of the spiritual connectors between the two of us - though, again, they'll probably never be acted upon or triggered in this lifetime. Still, I hope whoever my future spouse, that he's as handsome as this guy - ; )

And lucky you! Robert Redford AND Michael Fassbender! I've always adored Robert Redford - his hair especially. Love that style of hair on a guy if he can pull it off the way Robert does. And Michael Fassbender - yum! Very handsome, indeed!

posted July 23, 2014 01:51 PM            

The thing is, these soulmate synastries between us and a celebrity who's attracting us are pretty common. I believe this is happening because famous people/celebrities have an archetype potential - they appeal to large masses of people, they are somehow an ideal, them getting so famous is not a random fact. In a way, they are everyone's soulmates or the soulmates of a large crowd of people. And being as exposed as they are, we can feel their energy (with actors for instance, you can see them in very personal postures: naked, screaming, sleeping, dying, eating etc on screen)-so we, as spectators, can pretty much enter into their intimate space, it's like stalking a neighbor day after day, seeing him in all those intimate postures, some sort of a one-sided "living with the person".

But the thing is..it's not mutual. Having a soulmate synastry with Robert Redford does not mean we are soulmates and that there is a mutual connection between us. And soulmates are ALWAYS mutual. Robert Redford does not know I exist. And the statistical chances are he'll never know I exist. We may meet in the future, but I will definitely NOT meet the millions of people I have a soulmate synastry with, and neither will he. So, we don't have a connection. It's just me projecting something ( a masculine or personal ideal) onto him. Plus, there are most likely millions of women in this world with a soulmate synastry with RR, just like mine, perhaps better. Just as there are millions of men in this world with a soulmate synastry with me. But the only ones who count in terms of astrology are the soulmate synastries among the ones I ACTUALLY meet and form a relationship (of some kind) with.

Another thing...Joanne and Paul Newman's synastry is not that standard as a soulmate synastry. Most famous long-term couples are not more or less astro-twins as they are, most famous soulmate couples have a 50% similarity, 50% complementary aspect. Perhaps you would like to try the thread What is your ideal partner? for a closer look at your potential Prince Charming based on your natal needs.

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posted July 23, 2014 02:32 PM            

I see what you mean. I'm not sure that I project anything on to him, but I can certainly understand what you're saying. And yeah, there might be potential, but again, not likely to happen. Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever have a soulmate love-relationship or just have to settle for a karmic one. I think my parents were a karmic pair and it just...was bad. Really bad. Not to say all karmic soulmate-relationships are bad, but in terms of romance, it can be a definite buzz kill. lol. I've tried analyzing my own natal chart to see if there are indicators of a soulmate relationship entering my life, but there doesn't seem to be any (if those indicators that other people swear by are true).

I think I just approached this from a clinical, scientific mindset and well, with soulmates, love, relationships - hell, spirituality - you really can't. I mean, I have some things in common with him, but it's not enough to build a lifetime of a relationship with him (again, if there was even the slightest, most remote chance of that EVER happening).

posted July 23, 2014 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
well archetype or not. even celebrities have soulmates.

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They have ordinary soulmates there in Hollywood doing their laundry and making their babies and a harem of soulmates worldwide.

posted July 23, 2014 04:05 PM            

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And since you've told me the name of your celebrity soulmates, I'll tell you mine. Or, at least the one I accidently discovered just by doing some research. lol. It's Henry Cavill.

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Ohhh, my ex. I mean, my ex-celeb crush

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And I gotta tell you, that Venus Trine Vertex thing is true, because he's like...the personification of masculine beauty to me.

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posted July 23, 2014 05:03 PM            

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/matt-damon-wife_n_3562820.html

I know what we mostly hear about in the media are the celebrities with other celebrities, but celebrities do fall in love with non-celebrities, too. The media just isn't as focused on those couples.

-Matt Damon married a woman he met who was a bartender. She's attractive, but not some breathtaking beauty. He just fell in love.
-Julia Roberts married a cameraman who was working on the set of one of her movies.
-Patrick Dempsey, who is quite gorgeous, met his wife at a hair salon when he went in for a haircut.
-Vince Vaughn married a realtor.
-Anne Hathaway married a jewelry designer.
-Nicolas Cage is married to a former waitress.
-Christian Bale's wife is not a celebrity
-Hugh Jackman's wife is not a celebrity
-George Clooney is marrying a non-celebrity after years of being a playboy.

There are others, too, but you get the idea. These were all attractive celebrities who could have had their pick. The point is, when lightning strikes, it doesn't care about fame.

Now, like LeeLoo is saying, not everyone attracted to a celebrity is gonna have that happen, but if Matt Damon's wife had told her co-workers, "Hey, I had this crazy dream that I was tending bar one night, and Matt Damon came in and fell in love with me." They would have laughed and said, "Yeah, right. Keep dreaming."
I also doubt that Patrick Dempsey's wife was sitting at home drooling over him and thinking, "One day, he's gonna come into the salon for a haircut and fall in love with me."

posted July 23, 2014 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
But the thing is..it's not mutual.

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But the cases where the synastry is mutually soul-matey, two people have actually met, and yet only one of them is attracted. Sometimes even neither. And you look at the chart and have not the slightest idea why it didn't work.

posted July 24, 2014 04:56 AM            

I find the idea that these megastars are archetypes really fascinating.

You guys do give a girl a lot to think (and learn) about!

posted July 24, 2014 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Here's a link to an interesting article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/matt-damon-wife_n_3562820.html

I know what we mostly hear about in the media are the celebrities with other celebrities, but celebrities do fall in love with non-celebrities, too. The media just isn't as focused on those couples.

-Matt Damon married a woman he met who was a bartender. She's attractive, but not some breathtaking beauty. He just fell in love.
-Julia Roberts married a cameraman who was working on the set of one of her movies.
-Patrick Dempsey, who is quite gorgeous, met his wife at a hair salon when he went in for a haircut.
-Vince Vaughn married a realtor.
-Anne Hathaway married a jewelry designer.
-Nicolas Cage is married to a former waitress.
-Christian Bale's wife is not a celebrity
-Hugh Jackman's wife is not a celebrity
-George Clooney is marrying a non-celebrity after years of being a playboy.

There are others, too, but you get the idea. These were all attractive celebrities who could have had their pick. The point is, when lightening strikes, it doesn't care about fame.

Now, like LeeLoo is saying, not everyone attracted to a celebrity is gonna have that happen, but if Matt Damon's wife had told her co-workers, "Hey, I had this crazy dream that I was tending bar one night, and Matt Damon came in and fell in love with me." They would have laughed and said, "Yeah, right. Keep dreaming."
I also doubt that Patrick Dempsey's wife was sitting at home drooling over him and thinking, "One day, he's gonna come into the salon for a haircut and fall in love with me."

But, ya know... Sometimes lightening strikes.

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Oh, no, I'm misunderstood here hahahaha
I didn't say celebrities don't fall in love with non-celebrities or that you cant marry/be with someone who is famous. My focus was on saying that "soulmate" synastries between "ordinary" people and "icons" are very common. That's why those people got to become "icons" in the first place, it's not random, it's because they embody a collective ideal.

I also said casting a synastry with an unknown person and seeing connections there does not mean you will meet that person and it definitely doesn't mean you are soulmates, in my view. It's a false lead.

For example, I can use the astrotheme database to find famous people with Sun in Fire, Moon in Virgo/earth, Venus in Air and Mars in Virgo/Gem and additional placements such as ASC etc. (or any other database, without celebrities) and find most likely hundreds/thousands of people with a perfect complementarity with my chart.

posted July 24, 2014 07:03 AM            

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You know, this is something that always fascinated me. Not even in the case with celebrities, because those are untested--unless you've met the celebrity in question and they showed zero interest in you, no one can truly call such a synastry not mutual, because the two people have never met face to face. No proof either way. Purely theoretical, yes. But we don't know whether it would be mutual or not if they met.

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Of course we can't know, but that's not the point: the point was not to imagine a good synastry with an unknown person means there IS a connection with that person.

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But the cases where the synastry is mutually soul-matey, two people have actually met, and yet only one of them is attracted. Sometimes even neither. And you look at the chart and have not the slightest idea why it didn't work.

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Could you post an example? Because most of the times, there are significant differences between an unrequited synastry and a soulmate/reciprocal synastry.

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posted July 24, 2014 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I would argue that a "soulmate" does not have to be mutual. Depends on your definition of soulmate. A soulmate is someone meant to help you advance along your spiritual path. You can meet a soulmate, as in someone you have shared many previous lives with, and be enemies in this life. There is a saying, "sometimes soulmates kill us". Maybe you are meant to have an infatuation with someone because there is a soul lesson there that you need to learn. Everyone is a mirror reflecting back to us what we can't or don't want to see in ourselves. You may never meet them in this life but that doesn't mean they can't teach you something meaningful. If you see a celebrity in a movie and feel a connection maybe you had a past life connection with them. We have interacted with thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people over our many lives, who is to say who is connected and who is not. Who knows why we are born with certain charts and what triggers them. I think there is more we don't know yet about astrology then we do know. I don't consider anything impossible anymore.

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I agree with this KM, although what you describe seems like a person who is an "inspiration/lesson" to you, possibly by means of projection, and not a soulmate, in my view. Personally, I use the term "soulmates" for long-term couples who love each other and seem fit for one another: they are a true pair.

The problem I generally have with what you describe - the one-sided view. For me, everything related to love and couples should imply mutuality. I'm not sure unconditional love can be one-sided, because it ignores the other's choices. Well, that's just my personal twisted view on unconditional love lol For me, loving someone unconditionally and being inspired by one's love for someone to become a better person means, among other things, accepting that the person doesn't love you, has other needs, has chosen someone else or another lifestyle etc. Which, of course, leads to letting him/her go.

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posted July 24, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Could you post an example? Because most of the times, there are significant differences between an unrequited synastry and a soulmate/reciprocal synastry.

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