posted July 30, 2014 03:06 PM            

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Yes, thank you. The inner Saturn, the one squaring the nodal axis, looks unaspected. So it has a peregrine, erratic value - he doesn't feel grounded. It also appears to be the ruler of intercepted 2nd - him being aspected would be major. Whose Saturn is this?

posted July 30, 2014 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, thank you. The inner Saturn, the one squaring the nodal axis, looks unaspected. So it has a peregrine, erratic value - he doesn't feel grounded. It also appears to be the ruler of intercepted 2nd - him being aspected would be major. Whose Saturn is this?

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posted July 30, 2014 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Is this enough Saturn in our synastry to even write home about? Would we feel its effects?

Uranus conjunct Saturn
Ascendant trine Saturn
Saturn sextile Uranus
Saturn quintile Venus
Mars semisquare Saturn

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Saturn not very strong here. What is happening in the composite?

posted July 30, 2014 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Saturn not very strong here. What is happening in the composite?

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In composite in order of tightest to widest aspect:

Sun trine Saturn
Jupiter sextile Saturn
Venus trine Saturn
Mercury trine Saturn

And then Saturn semisextile Uranus for good measure.

Does this speak better to the long-term?

posted July 30, 2014 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
In composite in order of tightest to widest aspect:

Sun trine Saturn
Jupiter sextile Saturn
Venus trine Saturn
Mercury trine Saturn

And then Saturn semisextile Uranus for good measure.

Does this speak better to the long-term?

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Much better with Sun/Venus/Merc trine Saturn

posted July 30, 2014 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Much better with Sun/Venus/Merc trine Saturn

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posted July 30, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, thank you. The inner Saturn, the one squaring the nodal axis, looks unaspected. So it has a peregrine, erratic value - he doesn't feel grounded. It also appears to be the ruler of intercepted 2nd - him being aspected would be major. Whose Saturn is this?

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posted July 30, 2014 08:13 PM            

I recently rekindled a "friendship" with a guy I had serious and tumultuous past with. He was in love with me deeply and I loved him intensely but in an unconditional otherworldly way. When I look back at it, I realize that I must have been in love with him. I didn't admit it or profess it to him because I was different then. Generally against relationships and picky with the people I wanted to involve myself romantically with, as I only had in mind "the future" and ignored totally "the here and now".

All throughout our relationship was damaging, destructive, passionate and yet filled with love. It was painful and I think more so for him because I didn't reciprocate my feelings for him the way he'd expected. Things kept getting worse and the love was getting stronger until we reached a breaking point. I kept pushing him onto this other girl who liked him who he had no feelings for. As soon as we ended things, they started dating. And soon after, I sent him a 10 page letter expressing how I feel and blocked him because he was being excruciatingly cruel and mean towards me.

I unblocked him almost 2 years later because I kept having recurring reconciliation dreams of him. Fast forward to today, after we slowly and awkwardly rekindled a friendship. After 3 years passed since I last knew he loved me (2011) we ended up meeting up this June because I was visiting friends in Toronto and he lives there too. We met up and he would be mean to me, make fun, playfully "hit" me (nothing serious). He always used to do this in the past. Until one night it was just the two of us and we had an intimate exchange (this was the 2nd time I saw him) I asked him for a hug which turned out into a long and intimate embrace. I cried while he was hugging me and he was caressing me and being very tender towards me.

This was a shock to me as he is usually cold, stern, and indifferent. Very difficult personality. I never thought for a second he could be this sweet towards me again. I saw the same look in his eyes, the same gaze that he'd look at me with 3-4 yrs ago when he loved me. I've known him for 7 years now. After this exchange we would talk every night in a jokey friendly way. He would read messages and ignore them then answer later (a habit I generally hate). Anyway the beginning of this month it became increasingly frustrating and I confronted him to which he responded very coldly and giving no answer as to why he does this. Ever since then it's been bad, us hardly speaking and him being distant. I confronted him in a loving way, complimenting him and telling him that I'll always be there for him. He responded coldly saying "we're good, wtf is this essay?" I didn't respond. He wished me a happy Eid, I said thanks and that was 2 days ago.

I have strong feelings for him now, I realize I love him and I want to be with him. I don't know how he feels though the encounter that we had 2 months ago was romantic, he gives no hint as to how he feels.

Our Saturn Contacts:

His ASC conjunct my Saturn, Sun, Venus and Mercury

His Saturn Conjunct my Venus (2), Sun (4), Saturn (3) and Mercury (4)

My Saturn Opposite his Mars (exact)

My Chiron opposite his Saturn (exact)

My Vertex opposite his Saturn(1) and conjunct his Mars (3)

The only Saturn aspect we have in Composite is Saturn square MC (4)

Also what does it translate to have a lot of Saturn aspects in synastry but only one in composite?

I truly need help with this. I can't help but feel he is my destiny. (His Destinn conjunct my ascendant lol) I don't know what to do. Whether to give up or not... It's weighing me down.

posted July 31, 2014 06:35 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Sigh... It is both a relief and a tragedy that we all suffer from Saturn synastry.

I recently rekindled a "friendship" with a guy I had serious and tumultuous past with. He was in love with me deeply and I loved him intensely but in an unconditional otherworldly way. When I look back at it, I realize that I must have been in love with him. I didn't admit it or profess it to him because I was different then. Generally against relationships and picky with the people I wanted to involve myself romantically with, as I only had in mind "the future" and ignored totally "the here and now".

All throughout our relationship was damaging, destructive, passionate and yet filled with love. It was painful and I think more so for him because I didn't reciprocate my feelings for him the way he'd expected. Things kept getting worse and the love was getting stronger until we reached a breaking point. I kept pushing him onto this other girl who liked him who he had no feelings for. As soon as we ended things, they started dating. And soon after, I sent him a 10 page letter expressing how I feel and blocked him because he was being excruciatingly cruel and mean towards me.

I unblocked him almost 2 years later because I kept having recurring reconciliation dreams of him. Fast forward to today, after we slowly and awkwardly rekindled a friendship. After 3 years passed since I last knew he loved me (2011) we ended up meeting up this June because I was visiting friends in Toronto and he lives there too. We met up and he would be mean to me, make fun, playfully "hit" me (nothing serious). He always used to do this in the past. Until one night it was just the two of us and we had an intimate exchange (this was the 2nd time I saw him) I asked him for a hug which turned out into a long and intimate embrace. I cried while he was hugging me and he was caressing me and being very tender towards me.

This was a shock to me as he is usually cold, stern, and indifferent. Very difficult personality. I never thought for a second he could be this sweet towards me again. I saw the same look in his eyes, the same gaze that he'd look at me with 3-4 yrs ago when he loved me. I've known him for 7 years now. After this exchange we would talk every night in a jokey friendly way. He would read messages and ignore them then answer later (a habit I generally hate). Anyway the beginning of this month it became increasingly frustrating and I confronted him to which he responded very coldly and giving no answer as to why he does this. Ever since then it's been bad, us hardly speaking and him being distant. I confronted him in a loving way, complimenting him and telling him that I'll always be there for him. He responded coldly saying "we're good, wtf is this essay?" I didn't respond. He wished me a happy Eid, I said thanks and that was 2 days ago.

I have strong feelings for him now, I realize I love him and I want to be with him. I don't know how he feels though the encounter that we had 2 months ago was romantic, he gives no hint as to how he feels.

Our Saturn Contacts:

His ASC conjunct my Saturn, Sun, Venus and Mercury

His Saturn Conjunct my Venus (2), Sun (4), Saturn (3) and Mercury (4)

My Saturn Opposite his Mars (exact)

My Chiron opposite his Saturn (exact)

My Vertex opposite his Saturn(1) and conjunct his Mars (3)

The only Saturn aspect we have in Composite is Saturn square MC (4)

Also what does it translate to have a lot of Saturn aspects in synastry but only one in composite?

I truly need help with this. I can't help but feel he is my destiny. (His Destinn conjunct my ascendant lol) I don't know what to do. Whether to give up or not... It's weighing me down.

Sorry for how long this is...

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Hi,

Can you post your synastry and composite?

posted July 31, 2014 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi,

Can you post your synastry and composite?

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Certainly, here you go! Thank you so much. And Hiiii

This is our Synastry chart! (I'm on the inside):

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And this is the Composite:

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posted July 31, 2014 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
I was told about an interesting case today, a couple who had his Saturn conjunct her Venus. It was their only Saturn connection (though there were other classic synastry aspects like Venus-Mars). He is obsessed with her. He literally said he would do anything it takes to be with her. He gave her his house, his credit cars to use as she wanted, he said he didn't care if she had other men as long as she stayed with him. Love like a drug.

She admits to her friends that she likes his money (he's not rich but he's rather well off and she likes having no day job) and the sex is great, but she isn't really in love with him and he stifles her with his enourmous jealousy. He's like, noooo don't talk to men without me, don't go out without me and so on.

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what else is going on in their synastry?

posted July 31, 2014 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by FistOfLegend:
I'll tell you another instance where Saturn was prominent in synastry. This one has a different taste.
Between me and this girl, there are several Saturn ties between our charts. Venus conjunct Saturn is one of them. There's no clinging, no limiting, none of that. I haven't even told her I like her, yet I've liked her for many years. All there is is admiring from afar, thinking about her, feeling almost like I can't touch this thing. There's a whole lot of respect involved, as well as some hesitancy and worry. I don't know why I can't move foward with it and reveal how I feel. Maybe it's best to wait a little longer. Wait 'till I'm mature and ready.
Some Saturn ties take YEARS to unfold. Saturn, after all, rules time.

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Saturn Venus brings so much love

Who is the Saturn in your syanstry?

posted July 31, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
I was told about an interesting case today, a couple who had his Saturn conjunct her Venus. It was their only Saturn connection (though there were other classic synastry aspects like Venus-Mars). He is obsessed with her. He literally said he would do anything it takes to be with her. He gave her his house, his credit cars to use as she wanted, he said he didn't care if she had other men as long as she stayed with him. Love like a drug.

She admits to her friends that she likes his money (he's not rich but he's rather well off and she likes having no day job) and the sex is great, but she isn't really in love with him and he stifles her with his enourmous jealousy. He's like, noooo don't talk to men without me, don't go out without me and so on.

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How interesting but there must be some strong Neptune going on somewhere in their synastry for him to be so deluded to her actual thoughts and feelings.

I had my Saturn square his Venus and my Mars trine his Venus and we didn't work out and broke after 7 years. We had a love yod and a Thor's Hammer (info provided by Amelia28) and he broke it off 15 months ago. I still think about him and would like something with him again but in truth we just didn't work well together. We were salt in coffee instead of sugar. I am now trying v.v. hard to make space for someone totally new. However, I have read somewhere that when Mars trines Venus the attraction lasts a lifetime but I hope this is not the case. He said that I was sometimes too pushy with my Mars trining his Venus.

He has deleted everything of me from his social media except for one comment I made on one of his photo's on instagram 2 years ago.

posted July 31, 2014 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
I was told about an interesting case today, a couple who had his Saturn conjunct her Venus. It was their only Saturn connection (though there were other classic synastry aspects like Venus-Mars). He is obsessed with her. He literally said he would do anything it takes to be with her. He gave her his house, his credit cars to use as she wanted, he said he didn't care if she had other men as long as she stayed with him. Love like a drug.

She admits to her friends that she likes his money (he's not rich but he's rather well off and she likes having no day job) and the sex is great, but she isn't really in love with him and he stifles her with his enourmous jealousy. He's like, noooo don't talk to men without me, don't go out without me and so on.

Originally posted by Orange:
what else is going on in their synastry?

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And her Venus falls into his 8th house. I remember this one because at the same time I was told it is a typical aspect for a female (the owner of Venus) being obsessively and very sexually adored and given money by a man.

And that's what they have. She's like, ugh, he's such a jealous asschat, he's got such a bad temper, he's a caveman, wtf he thinks he can own me, but he bought me this cool car and we had sex four times last night yay. Once they were at a wedding of some relative, she danced with some guy, he got so jealous he literally grabbed her arm mid-dance and pulled her out to their car, they left so early. She said he brought her home and pretty much forced himself on her except she enjoyed it. But even though he's like that, he loves showing her off and always praises her to his friends, saying he's lucky to have her, she's beautiful, etc.

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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
How interesting but there must be some strong Neptune going on somewhere in their synastry for him to be so deluded to her actual thoughts and feelings.

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posted July 31, 2014 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Truly appreciate all the help I could get...

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Before I even looked at the synastry, I thought: this must be a case of woman's Mars in hard aspect to the man's Venus. And there it is! Take a look here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000561.html

posted July 31, 2014 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
I had my Saturn square his Venus and my Mars trine his Venus and we didn't work out and broke after 7 years. We had a love yod and a Thor's Hammer (info provided by Amelia28) and he broke it off 15 months ago. I still think about him and would like something with him again but in truth we just didn't work well together. We were salt in coffee instead of sugar. I am now trying v.v. hard to make space for someone totally new. However, I have read somewhere that when Mars trines Venus the attraction lasts a lifetime but I hope this is not the case. He said that I was sometimes too pushy with my Mars trining his Venus.

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posted July 31, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Before I even looked at the synastry, I thought: this must be a case of woman's Mars in hard aspect to the man's Venus. And there it is! Take a look here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000561.html

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posted July 31, 2014 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
Now I am going for cocktails

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Good for you! Have fun!
It will be allright, you'll see

posted July 31, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Before I even looked at the synastry, I thought: this must be a case of woman's Mars in hard aspect to the man's Venus. And there it is! Take a look here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000561.html

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I read the forum... Strange thing is he always seemed more aggressive towards me. I chased him to get to know him because he was really shy but after that he just totally unraveled on his own surprising me with his love and interest.

posted July 31, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I read the forum... Strange thing is he always seemed more aggressive towards me. I chased him to get to know him because he was really shy but after that he just totally unraveled on his own surprising me with his love and interest.

I'll wait to hear what you think of the rest of it...

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No, with this combo, if you chase him, you chase him away. If you want him, you've got to let him chase you. If he doesn't, let it be.

And he wasn't shy. Your Mars gave you this illusion. I've experienced this two times and I've seen this too many times. I also thought he was shy and needed a push - although I never think that, but it's an illusion coming from your Mars in hard aspect to his Venus.

No matter how shy a guy is, if he likes you, he'll let you know.

posted July 31, 2014 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No, with this combo, if you chase him, you chase him away. If you want him, you've got to let him chase you. If he doesn't, let it be.

And he wasn't shy. Your Mars gave you this illusion. I've experienced this two times and I've seen this too many times. I also thought he was shy and needed a push - although I never think that, but it's an illusion coming from your Mars in hard aspect to his Venus.

No matter how shy a guy is, if he likes you, he'll let you know.

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I'm a bit confused. This is one aspect in the whole chart. I'm not sure this particular aspect resonates with my experiences with him. He loved me for 3 years and it only took seeing him three times in the course of another 3 years for us to have an intimate moment with one another.

posted July 31, 2014 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I'm a bit confused. This is one aspect in the whole chart. I'm not sure this particular aspect resonates with my experiences with him. He loved me for 3 years and it only took seeing him three times in the course of another 3 years for us to have an intimate moment with one another.

Is there anything else in the synastry that's telling?

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I thought you wanted to know what I think is the blockage in your relationship - it seemed to me you said you thought you loved him and wanted to know why he doesn't reciprocate. Of course any synastry is very telling and one can write 10 pages about it. Perhaps it would be easier if you asked specific questions about what you want to know.

I'm confused about your description too. Have you been together in a relationship before? You said you loved him in an unconditional, otherworldy way which suggest you haven't been or lived together, or perhaps I misunderstood.

posted July 31, 2014 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I thought you wanted to know what I think is the blockage in your relationship - it seemed to me you said you thought you loved him and wanted to know why he doesn't reciprocate. Of course any synastry is very telling and one can write 10 pages about it. Perhaps it would be easier if you asked specific questions about what you want to know.

I'm confused about your description too. Have you been together in a relationship before? You said you loved him in an unconditional, otherworldy way which suggest you haven't been or lived together, or perhaps I misunderstood.

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I apologize. I had no idea my post was vague or unclear. We were friends. I considered him my best friend but he was deeply in love with me. I didn't reciprocate that love in a romantic sense although he was aware that I loved him as a soul mate and best friend. That wasn't enough for him, it was an unrequited love on his side. I fought for us to still be best friends while he fought for an all or nothing love ultimatum. I had to constantly compromise with him to keep him in my life. But he would change his mind often, sometimes coming to the realization that he wants me in his life in any shape or form, only to snap out of it and ignore me or mistreat me.

That was then. Now, I realized, after having seen him in person as we separated for college, that I love him. As I grew and learned about myself I realized that he was/is/could be the one. We had an intimate exchange and after that we maintained contact online but he was gone cold out of nowhere. I don't know why that is.

My question is given your response about venus sq. mars: Is this blockage something that will constantly plague the energies between us or is there something else that could hint as to why he is excessively cold towards me? Is there any significance in our synastry that would hint to us being good partners in the long-term given all our Saturn synastry? Transit Saturn is conjunct his Venus at this time also.

I'm sorry. I'm upset and confused. And on the edge, not knowing whether to let go or hold on because there is something special or fruitful.