posted August 28, 2018 10:27 AM            

However, the composite was pretty horrendous, so after the first few months I felt like someone who had no capacity to understand me, or contextualise my feelings, had vast access to my emotional landscape. Hope this makes sense. What I mean by this is I absolutely felt their "gaze" but I hated it. My moon is in my 5th house natally, so I have zero problem verbalizing my feelings, but I still had the feeling they were continually gathering "intel" on me. I guess I didn't trust their capacity to process and interpret emotions.

It was very uncomfortable, and to this day I believe the 8th house synastry with complete lack of support from the composite was what made the relationship so suffocating, despite the lack of intimacy.

posted August 28, 2018 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
I had this with someone I dated for a few months. The synastry aspects were excellent, and the house placements for major planets were pretty much mirroring positions, either the 1st house or the 8th.

However, the composite was pretty horrendous, so after the first few months I felt like someone who had no capacity to understand me, or contextualise my feelings, had vast access to my emotional landscape. Hope this makes sense. What I mean by this is I absolutely felt their "gaze" but I hated it. My moon is in my 5th house natally, so I have zero problem verbalizing my feelings, but I still had the feeling they were continually gathering "intel" on me. I guess I didn't trust their capacity to process and interpret emotions.

It was very uncomfortable, and to this day I believe the 8th house synastry with complete lack of support from the composite was what made the relationship so suffocating, despite the lack of intimacy.

I have a feeling it may be incredibly intimate and therapeutic if it is supported by other aspects, or if both people are mature enough to handle such proximity.

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posted August 28, 2018 03:12 PM            

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When you say support from the composite what exactly do you mean? What aspects in composite do you think would support having this in synastry?[/B]

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Well! With this person I'm talking about, despite the excellent synastry with tons of Venus, Sun, Jupiter and Moon connections - the composite was barren as hell. I'm talking about Saturn sq Uranus, Venus sq Saturn, Venus opp. Mars. Also sun AND moon squared Neptune, which all but guaranteed a massive disappointment after a period of mutual idealization.

Long story short: I've been reading a ton about 8th house due to another (current) relationship, where composite moon is conjunct sun in the 8th house. It is an entirely, entirely different experience. There is a lot of mutual support, venus - asc contacts, tangible saturn stability, and as I said, above all, the moon aspects are soft and supportive.

I think the 8th house is no joke. Even if the aspects are great and supportive, there's good chance that one of the individuals are not ready for that kind of "open nerve" connection. It can feel very destabilizing - and it sure as hell does not do well with manipulation, lying, or even a "safe buffer zone" for "when things go sour". It's that kind energy that necessitates a kind of all or nothing openness. Anything other than that explodes with built up resentment, or brewing coldness and distance. If the sense of proximity made possible by the 8th house does not feel safe or embracing, you just want to get away as quickly as possible. I've read that the 12th house is stuff that's hidden from us (family trauma, the subconscious), whereas the 8th is stuff we keep from ourselves. I believe this is exactly right. The moon in the 8th is especially therapy-like, and open to manipulation when paired with impure intentions, or lack of honesty.

I wish way more stuff was written about 8th house. I don't think it's as understood as other houses - there is some ancient connection between the traditional readings of it (tangible values, money shared with spouse, regeneration and death) that got lost in time. All 8th house matters are tied together in a very meaningful way I think, but I'm still looking for an explanation that opens up its depths.

posted August 29, 2018 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Well! With this person I'm talking about, despite the excellent synastry with tons of Venus, Sun, Jupiter and Moon connections - the composite was barren as hell. I'm talking about Saturn sq Uranus, Venus sq Saturn, Venus opp. Mars. Also sun AND moon squared Neptune, which all but guaranteed a massive disappointment after a period of mutual idealization.

Long story short: I've been reading a ton about 8th house due to another (current) relationship, where composite moon is conjunct sun in the 8th house. It is an entirely, entirely different experience. There is a lot of mutual support, venus - asc contacts, tangible saturn stability, and as I said, above all, the moon aspects are soft and supportive.

I think the 8th house is no joke. Even if the aspects are great and supportive, there's good chance that one of the individuals are not ready for that kind of "open nerve" connection. It can feel very destabilizing - and it sure as hell does not do well with manipulation, lying, or even a "safe buffer zone" for "when things go sour". It's that kind energy that necessitates a kind of all or nothing openness. Anything other than that explodes with built up resentment, or brewing coldness and distance. If the sense of proximity made possible by the 8th house does not feel safe or embracing, you just want to get away as quickly as possible. I've read that the 12th house is stuff that's hidden from us (family trauma, the subconscious), whereas the 8th is stuff we keep from ourselves. I believe this is exactly right. The moon in the 8th is especially therapy-like, and open to manipulation when paired with impure intentions, or lack of honesty.

I wish way more stuff was written about 8th house. I don't think it's as understood as other houses - there is some ancient connection between the traditional readings of it (tangible values, money shared with spouse, regeneration and death) that got lost in time. All 8th house matters are tied together in a very meaningful way I think, but I'm still looking for an explanation that opens up its depths.

Hope some of this made some sense!

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posted September 09, 2018 03:44 AM            

The first time was a friendship (we also had VenusMars DW), I was vary much aware that she thought of me, maybe obsessively - it was obvious that she wanted something maybe more. We would talk about sex very openly, it was a very close friendship. But I just didn’t want her sexually, I depended on her emotionally but just as platonic from my point of view.

The second one is interesting (I am also getting nailed by her Pluto left, right and centre). I feel massive desire for her but I can feel her more than she knows, and she is trying to control her reactions to me. I am used to this **** , I love to feel consumed; so I am quite happy wallowing in it.

I think this aspect really connects people, but I don’t think it’s a ‘one size fits all’ aspect.

posted September 09, 2018 04:04 AM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have been the house twice, in this aspect. Not sure about me being the moon to my knowledge.

The first time was a friendship (we also had VenusMars DW), I was vary much aware that she thought of me, maybe obsessively - it was obvious that she wanted something maybe more. We would talk about sex very openly, it was a very close friendship. But I just didn’t want her sexually, I depended on her emotionally but just as platonic from my point of view.

The second one is interesting (I am also getting nailed by her Pluto left, right and centre). I feel massive desire for her but I can feel her more than she knows, and she is trying to control her reactions to me. I am used to this **** , I love to feel consumed; so I am quite happy wallowing in it.

I think this aspect really connects people, but I don’t think it’s a ‘one size fits all’ aspect.

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posted September 09, 2018 04:22 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have this with a friend and I'm the Moon person. We basically have Venus/Mars both ways. Their Moon is in my 5th house and we have Pluto aspects. But the person is sexually attracted to me. Odd I guess you just didn't like her in that way. Or perhaps it could have been the lack of Pluto in the first situation. What exactly do you mean by a one size fits all aspect.

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How do you feel about the house person?

What I mean by ‘it’s not s one size fits all’ aspect, it’s different for the people involved, and I do genuinely believe that the male/female will feel this differently - this will be further augmented by the natal charts.

For instance, I have moon in the eighth house with mars Scorpio and Venus/ Pluto square. So planets landing in my eighth house is business as usual for me, as I live and breath in an all consumed way, I need more of this in my life.

Additionally, age and gender alter the dynamics too. Once I have had some time I will come back and articulate this dynamic. It should not be overlooked.

posted September 09, 2018 07:40 AM            

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How do you feel about the house person?

What I mean by ‘it’s not s one size fits all’ aspect, it’s different for the people involved, and I do genuinely believe that the male/female will feel this differently - this will be further augmented by the natal charts.

For instance, I have moon in the eighth Natalie with mars Scorpio and Venus/ Pluto square. So planets landing in my eighth house is business as usual for me, as I live and breath in an all consumed way, I need more of this in my life.

Additionally, age and gender alter the dynamics too. Once I have had some time I will come back and articulate this dynamic. It should not be overlooked.

So, what I mean is that the interpretation is not straight forward; you can’t give a blanket statement for this aspect. I think both parties feel the connection in this instance, but I feel the moon person may be more acutely aware of this.

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I understand what you mean you have planets in your eighth house. So it wouldn't impact you like it would for a person who has no planets there. I have a lot of planets in my 8th house. Venus, Jupiter, Mercury and North Node. While the house person doesn't but they do have 12th house placements. So I'm not sure how they feel about having my Moon in their 8th house. In regards to how I feel about the house person. It's still early in our friendship so I'm not exactly sure yet. But I feel a little uneasy by the house person. Yes I am sexually attracted to them. And there are things I would like to share with the house person.

posted September 09, 2018 08:30 AM            

I think that this is all about opening up. In all my experiences it has been really easy to talk about how I feel, particularly about my sexual interests.

posted September 09, 2018 10:11 AM            

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Yes, I think that’s the running theme with this aspect.

I think that this is all about opening up. In all my experiences it has been really easy to talk about how I feel, particularly about my sexual interests.

I think the moon person may feel more restriction with how they open up with the house person. But both house and planet feel the connection. It’s humbling for the house, somewhat challenging for the moon.

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posted September 09, 2018 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Have you ever had 4th house overlays with anyone? Do you think the 8th house is more profound than the 4th house?

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The moon is happy in the 4th, very happy. She can be herself. The moon is forced to face its fears in the 8th and step out of her comfort zone.

posted September 09, 2018 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
The moon is happy in the 4th, very happy. She can be herself. The moon is forced to face its fears in the 8th and step out of her comfort zone.

Planets landing in the 8th will always be profound; when isolated, most profound/transformative house out of all of them. For better or worse.

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posted October 03, 2018 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by loffra180:
Having your Moon in somebody's 8th house is really a doozy. I feel for him, and I'm glad that you guys have found a way to work it out. It HAS to have an outlet somewhere, otherwise it will just make you go crazy, either that or you have to just let go of the feelings it brings up and that is in no way an easy task. I'm pretty sure if I hadn't gotten it under control, Amber and I probably wouldn't be friends anymore.

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posted June 24, 2019 05:07 PM            

At the end it was my life long best friend pulled the sword and cut the cord which I am very grateful for.

When I look back now, it all seems so crazy. Whatever Pluto represents was there. ( we had Sun, Mercury, Ascendant square Pluto as well. He was the Pluto )

During the process, I learned about myself a lot.

I believe neither him, nor I will ever forget about each other and experience...

Somewhere I read about moon in the 8th - if not handled well, it ends in flames with no chance of return. which is so true in my case.

posted June 25, 2019 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by sis:
I was the house person, he was the moon in my 8th house. An affair lasted for 9 years. I was totaly obssesed with him, to the point of insanity. He emotionaly manipulated me all the time and whenever I tried to break the chains, he did not let me go. Sex was great. Intimacy was strong. I was in lust with him. But he did not love me. He was triple Scorpio . He was cruel, heartless., revengeful. He almost killed me literaly, figuratively. I bleeded for almost 2 years literaly, figuratively.

At the end it was my life long best friend pulled the sword and cut the cord which I am very grateful for.

When I look back now, it all seems so crazy. Whatever Pluto represents was there. ( we had Sun, Mercury, Ascendant square Pluto as well. He was the Pluto )

During the process, I learned about myself a lot.

I believe neither him, nor I will ever forget about each other and experience...

Somewhere I read about moon in the 8th - if not handled well, it ends in flames with no chance of return. which is so true in my case.

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posted June 25, 2019 04:26 PM            

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Thank you for sharing do you think it was because his Pluto made hard aspects to your Sun, Mercury and Ascendant as to why he treated you that way? Or because his Moon was in your 8th house? I’m the Moon but the house persons Pluto squares my Moon and is in opposition to my Sun. My Pluto trines his Mercury, Mars and Ascendant. So I’m guessing he’ll probably manipulate and hurt me being as though his Pluto is in hard aspects to my personal planets?

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The squares to Pluto resulted in power strugles. And yes I believe they are partly responsible from how he treated me. By the way, I have those aspects nataly. So, we were both extremely plutonian.

Moon in the 8th house was squaring moon, trining mercury, moon square mars, moon opposite jupiter, moon square north node... So, majority aspetcs were negative. Emotional crisis came from the moon in the 8th house.

To be honest, moon square pluto in synastry could be problematic. I believe emotional manipulation will be there. Deep, dark, strong emotions, Obsession, Jealousy... A hard to break tie. He will be jealous of you but might resort to games and convenience you it is the other way around... But of course, it can be quite transformative...

However, your pluto is making good aspects to his planet. When pluto makes aspects on both sides, I think even the hard aspects are workable. In my case, my pluto was making no major aspect to his planets. So, he had the power. And he misused the power.

See Pluto wants the relationship to be on his terms. Because I had those aspects nataly, I resisted that and the power he has on me. After a while, it became an open war...

My advise will be enjoy your relationship... if pluto startes rearing its ugly head, acknowledge it and with wonderful Pluto aspects you are making to his planets. try to fix it. But when it becomes a repeat cycle, know when to leave.

posted July 04, 2019 10:37 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
The squares to Pluto resulted in power strugles. And yes I believe they are partly responsible from how he treated me. By the way, I have those aspects nataly. So, we were both extremely plutonian.

Moon in the 8th house was squaring moon, trining mercury, moon square mars, moon opposite jupiter, moon square north node... So, majority aspetcs were negative. Emotional crisis came from the moon in the 8th house.

To be honest, moon square pluto in synastry could be problematic. I believe emotional manipulation will be there. Deep, dark, strong emotions, Obsession, Jealousy... A hard to break tie. He will be jealous of you but might resort to games and convenience you it is the other way around... But of course, it can be quite transformative...

However, your pluto is making good aspects to his planet. When pluto makes aspects on both sides, I think even the hard aspects are workable. In my case, my pluto was making no major aspect to his planets. So, he had the power. And he misused the power.

See Pluto wants the relationship to be on his terms. Because I had those aspects nataly, I resisted that and the power he has on me. After a while, it became an open war...

My advise will be enjoy your relationship... if pluto startes rearing its ugly head, acknowledge it and with wonderful Pluto aspects you are making to his planets. try to fix it. But when it becomes a repeat cycle, know when to leave.

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