posted August 03, 2014 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
starynight,

I think you need to post your chart to see the whole pattern.

You seem to resonate very strongly with your 5th house.

Scorpio is on the cusp of the 5th. Scorpio is co-ruled by Mars. Mars is in Sagittarius in the 5th itself. This creates a bit of a fire sign circuit.

Mars in the 5th house by itself indicates attraction to Aries placements romantically. Plain and simple.

Co-ruler of the 5th house in Sagittarius indicates an attraction to Sagittarius placements. Mars in Sagittarius as a gender planet also indicates attraction to Sagittarius placements.

Co-ruler of the 5th house in the 5th house, indicates an attraction to Leo placements. Mars in the 5th house as a gender planet also indicates an attraction to Leo placements.

Also, signs that have dual rulerships have an introverted ruler and an extroverted one.

With Scorpio, Pluto is the introverted ruler and Mars is the extroverted one. Assuming you are female, you might be attracted to the signification of Mars more then Pluto. This is similar to the situation I discussed above with Leo DiCaprio and his Aquarius 5th house. His Saturn in Cancer co-ruling his 5th house attracts him to Cancer women (one after another).

Also, with Mars in Sagittarius you might be attracted to your 9th house. Similar to the secondary houses theory, I've noticed that the houses associated with the signs of Venus and Mars can indicate what we're attracted to about the opposite sex.

If someone has Venus in Cancer and Mars in Gemini their gender would influence which house symbolism they are attracted to. A male with Venus in Cancer is attracted to Cancer placements and/or his 4th house symbolism. A women with Mars in Gemini is attracted to Gemini placements and/or her 3rd house symbolism.

I've seen this pattern quite often in attraction just like the secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses.

Mars in Sagittarius would attract you to your 9th house... The sign on the 9th house cusp, any planets in the 9th house, and the 9th house ruler.

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Here's my chart.

I do resonate with my 5th house, despite my Sun actually falling into 4th. I think it's because it's so populated, and the rest of my Scorpio planets land there. Or maybe it's the Grand Trine thing. This chart doesn't show aspects to angles but there is Asc-MC-Mars. 1th-10th-5th houses interconnected.

Re: 9th house. Hmm. I don't have anything against Pisces but it doesn't get me going.

Though! The old co-ruler of Pisces is Jupiter, right? Which leads us back to Sagittarius & Mars in a roundabout way. I also seem to have a lot of Neptune in my boyfriend synastries.

posted August 03, 2014 10:06 PM            

And I'd have Taurus Moon then--the moment Asc moves into the last degree of Pisces, my Moon moves into the last degree of Taurus. I don't feel like a Taurus Moon at all, while Gemini Moon describes me pretty well.

posted August 04, 2014 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
I might. Though I'm using the earliest time here, it's more likely that I was born a few minutes later, nor earlier.

And I'd have Taurus Moon then--the moment Asc moves into the last degree of Pisces, my Moon moves into the last degree of Taurus. I don't feel like a Taurus Moon at all, while Gemini Moon describes me pretty well.

My 8th house would still be Aquarius, my 9th still Pisces. (I tested out those versions before, making several charts.)

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posted August 04, 2014 02:36 PM            

Attraction is Venus and it is also what one approves of as "beautiful".

Mars is sex drive/style: what turns a person on.

5th house are your interests/hobbies. How you relax and what you consider a leisure activity. It is also the area of life of where/how you will meet people which you share an interest with. Also the area of life where you may even meet your potential lover.

Venus in 3rd- Likes being "busy",likes activity, likes being in many places at once and trying everything, likes words, likes speaking, likes relating, likes to keep abreast with current social affairs.

As such,you will be drawn to a lover who echoes these things within you; they will be talkative, lively, have a very active social life, like to be in the "mix" of things and will be very interesting to talk to as they have a finger in every pie-so to speak.

Mars in 5th-finds physical intimacy fun, likes to have sex, may have a high sex drive, is turned on by recreational activities, is turned on by creativity,is turned on by competition, turned on by role-playing, likes sex to be "theatrical", likes to be spontaneous and have sex be fun, considers sex a leisure activity, may find that sex relaxes them.

This person may also be turned on by sports.Physical activity followed by a roll in the hay is always right up their alley.

5th house in Scorpio and the ruler(Pluto) is in the 4th house- Your hobbies/interests are closely tied to family,ur hobbies/interest provide emotional comfort,you may find spending time at home is leisurely for you etc.

posted August 04, 2014 02:50 PM            

What turns on a 9th house Mars?

Also, it is interesting what you said about "the area of life where you meet a potential lover". My 5th is in Gem and it kinda fits.

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posted August 04, 2014 03:47 PM            

So someone with Mars in 9th house will be turned on by the "experience" of things that have a 9th house association i.e

Foreign accents,foreign languages,foreign people,well-formed thighs/legs,some people have a soccer/rugby men fetish-because in both sports they use their legs a lot and then develop great thigh and leg muscles.

One could also be turned on by sex in a foreign country,sex in a foreign place,sex in a church(9th house also rules religion), sex with a priest/nun(the nun-priest fetish),angels vs demons fantasies.

Turned on by tall people,people with long hair,people who are well-traveled,turned on by people in the law profession,sex in the wild,sex outdoors,turned on by teachers/ mentors,turned on by "hippies",travelers, rugged/nomadic types, bohemian-looking people,mixed race people etc.

posted August 04, 2014 03:54 PM            

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sex in a church(9th house also rules religion), sex with a priest/nun(the nun-priest fetish),angels vs demons fantasies.

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posted August 04, 2014 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:

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I kinda liked that one.

Wow, Aries, you are very good...thank you! You should make a thread with this!

posted August 04, 2014 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
The Moon moves at a much lower pace then the Asc. A late Cancer Asc might still have a Gemini Moon. Did you mean Cancer when you said 'Pisces' above.

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I remember doing all this when I was in love with a Cancer Sun. I really wanted to give myself a Cancer Asc but I was unable to convince myself to fit Taurus Moon in anaretic degree into the whole picture. Mercurial Moon through and through.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Let me add my 2 cents worth.

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And the actual sign of Venus? Though it's still ruled by Mercury.
Yes, this is true, I'm attracted to extroverted guys. Not necessarily social butterflies, but I was never into strong silent loner type.

Spot on about physical activity and the whole Mars thing.

Not so sure about Pluto and 4th... I can be a bit of a homebody but I like to be drawn out of it. I like it when a guy fires me up, takes me out, when our romance makes me more active, more outgoing, more open to the world. I never want to cuddle with him in front of TV or stay at home for dinner. I actually broke up with the aforementioned Cancer Sun partially for that reason. He always wanted to keep it in, I felt like we weren't really living/developing together.

It's like I'm always pointed outwards from IC and from my own Sun in a way--like that's where I'm heading, that's where my path leads. Out of dark quiet depths and upwards to the stars. This is a little fancy, but I always liked that symbolical growth of Scorpio from Gray Lizard to soaring Eagle.

By the way, what do you think Mars in 10th likes, sign nonwithstanding? MC seems to be so far from romantic/sexual anything...

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

So someone with Mars in 9th house will be turned on by the "experience" of things that have a 9th house association i.e

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I know you said Mars but I can't keep myself from adding.

One of my boyfriends, a guy with Venus in the 9th house, always said he was attracted to those traits of yours truly

- foreign girl (to him)
- accent (when I spoke his language which I knew pretty well)
- legs
- long hair
- bohemian/artistic occupation
- well-educated

Though his Venus was not in Sagittarius and neither was his 9th house.

posted August 04, 2014 10:07 PM            

Also this places Capricorn on the cusp of the 6th house instead of Sag.

posted August 05, 2014 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:

I know you said Mars but I can't keep myself from adding.

One of my boyfriends,a guy with Venus in the 9th house,always said he was attracted to those traits of yours truly

- foreign girl (to him)
- accent (when I spoke his language which I knew pretty well)
- legs
- long hair
- bohemian/artistic occupation
- well-educated

Though his Venus was not in Sagittarius and neither was his 9th house.

He also loved sex while traveling, outdoors and in exotic places, but his Mars was in Sagittarius indeed.

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Huh Are we still talking about the same person? Their Venus is in the 9th- then it isn't?

As I said, the list is not exhaustive.House experiences are life experiences and can never be fully covered.

Venus and Mars placements are often confused and seen as acting as "one".

Think of it like this: Venus is when your lover caresses and touches you and kisses you in places that are pleasurable. It is all very sensual,very playful.

Mars is when your lover hits the "g" spot. That's when all hell breaks lose and you want them NOW.You have to have them NOW

See the difference? One is "like", the other is "desire".

You may "like" certain cars, but there is one car that you "desire".

Desire is more urgent than like and it is the actualization of physical desire that makes one reach an orgasm.

Have you ever met someone that, even when they are not being "sexy, just turns you on. the thought of them even touching your hand my get you to "peak"? etc That is Mars, that is desire!!

Its when the body and mind are merged into "one" and a certain outcome is inevitable; ejaculation/orgasm is the sexual experience.

So when I say that Mars in 9th is "turned on" by the house experiences,I am saying that it is likely to be these themes around sex that will get them to that "place" faster.

These are the experiences that will evoke an orgasm or have them reach that point of absolute desire.

Venus in 9th "likes" foreign places, foreign cultures, foreign accents, nice legs/thighs etc.

Mars in 9th,however, may find that they are really sexually turned on by foreign girls, a great set of legs, doing it in the wilderness etc

So when you have the qualities that the Venus in 9th likes, they may want to date you- they find you beautiful and would like for you to be around them.

When you have the qualities that someone that has Mars in 9th "desires",they find it difficult to exert control over their actions.They want to be "in" you, they want to "consume" you-so to speak.

You can "feel" very uncomfortable-because its the "look" that they give you that projects sexual desire. They want to jump you, put you against a rock and hump you silly.

They simply can't hide their deep "wanting" of you that they may even have what is called "lust at first sight" or confuse that with "love".

posted August 05, 2014 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:

And the actual sign of Venus? Though it's still ruled by Mercury.

Yes, this is true, I'm attracted to extroverted guys. Not necessarily social butterflies, but I was never into strong silent loner type.

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Well Venus in 3rd doesn't always mean a social butterfly.It does,however,mean that the person is "busy".

There is either external activity i.e Parties, social events and venues to attend or the "busyness" is turned inwards; conversations,open-minded,wide-ranging topics and subjects, interest in many diverse things etc.

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Originally posted by starrynight:

Spot on about physical activity and the whole Mars thing.

Not so sure about Pluto and 4th... I can be a bit of a homebody but I like to be drawn out of it. I like it when a guy fires me up, takes me out, when our romance makes me more active, more outgoing, more open to the world. I never want to cuddle with him in front of TV or stay at home for dinner. I actually broke up with the aforementioned Cancer Sun partially for that reason. He always wanted to keep it in, I felt like we weren't really living/developing together.

It's like I'm always pointed outwards from IC and from my own Sun in a way--like that's where I'm heading, that's where my path leads. Out of dark quiet depths and upwards to the stars. This is a little fancy, but I always liked that symbolical growth of Scorpio from Gray Lizard to soaring Eagle.

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Well,your 5th house cusp has two rulers and so I was banking on Pluto but alas, it seems that Mars is the ruler of your 5th house and that is why you feel a "pull" towards more of the outside.

5th house ruler in the 5th would definitely push you towards a more "active" living.

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Originally posted by starrynight:

By the way, what do you think Mars in 10th likes, sign nonwithstanding? MC seems to be so far from romantic/sexual anything...

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Not at all.

Mars always finds a way to express itself. ALWAYS.

Desire is present is all human beings; not necessarily always sexual-in nature- but it is present.

Desire is the statement of who we are and who we choose to be. We look at the variety of contrast and from that, make a definitive choice of where our "best" self is.

So in 10th, what comes to mind is corporate or someone with both strength and dignity.

Mars in 10th is the classic "Fifty shades of gray" scenario that is present in many other erotic fictions- "powerful" man goes after "lowly" female OR male intern obsesses over higher "trophy" female boss etc.

Mars in 10th represents the men and women of yesteryear; Clark Gable,Audrey Hepburn,Sean Connery,Rita Hayworth etc.

It also represents men of this current generation; Denzel Washington,Kate Blanchett etc dignified,talented AND with tons of sex appeal that enhances their "authoritative" figures.

Mars in 10th could be turned on by formal suits, formal attire, men can find women who wear pencil skirts a "turn on"(restrictive yet show off a shapely figure),women in the corporate environment,having sex in the office,having sex on the desk,having sex in restricted places(Saturn rules all places that are cramped i.e storerooms, photocopy rooms etc),turned on by people who dress in a conservative but fashionable manner etc.

Men can be turned on by "powerful" women and desire to either "overpower" them or being "dominated" by them

Mars in 10th could be turned on by their boss,females in heels(suggests power and "dominance"),men who "power dress",people who have an "air" of authority,sex with someone in authority,sex with a powerful person,"dominating" a powerful person, turned on by people with clean reputations i.e the thought of "deflowering them" is very appealing, people who are taller than they are or more established etc.

They could also be turned on by "the good guy",find well fitted clothes "sexy" i.e trousers/shirts etc. Mars in 10th wants to have sex with the one "in charge"; either the boss "submits" to them(Mars in 10th) or the Mars in 10th "submits" to the boss.

Again,the list is not exhaustive. The 10th house is about "sophistication" and so Mars there could want to "sexualize" that sophistication.

Some people may have fantasies about someone who they "answer"to;the landlord, the building owner,the general manager etc. As long as the person is seen in "higher" esteem(either financially or through reputation)than the Mars in 10th person is ,they become a sex object.

posted August 05, 2014 07:11 AM            

What about Mars in 8th?

posted August 05, 2014 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
Apologies if this is either an obvious or, indeed, an ignorant question but does the placement of Venus/Mars in the houses and/or signs show what colouring you are attracted to - whether brunette, blonde, red as well as skin tone/racial variants? I have noticed that I much prefer tall, dark and handsome rather than fair & light (apart from a young Robert Redford). Robert DeNiro in The Godfather sort of represents my physical ideal and I find him just beautiful to look at.

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posted August 05, 2014 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great posts about these Marses, Aries
What about Mars in 8th?

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Lol. Buttering me up for the request heh?

posted August 05, 2014 02:22 PM            

Naaah, I really think you have a gift and you should open a thread about it

posted August 05, 2014 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Huh Are we still talking about the same person? Their Venus is in the 9th- then it isn't?

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But I get the difference! I'd say I even experienced that lust at first sight a few times and I'm likely to confuse it with love because "hot and urgent" is very much like my idea of love.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well,your 5th house cusp has two rulers and so I was banking on Pluto but alas, it seems that Mars is the ruler of your 5th house and that is why you feel a "pull" towards more of the outside.

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I have a theory about that, maybe it's far- fetched though.

My Asc ruler is Sun, Mars sits in the house of Sun/Leo, there is Mars trine Asc, too. It's a wide-ish trine, but it's there. And Scorpio is on the cusp of the 5th house, reinforcing the connection.

While Pluto only has a very wide conjunction to Sun in a different sign. They share a house, but it symbolically belongs to the Moon and is ruled by Libra.

I get this feeling that my Sun (which aspects my Asc too) is lonely in the 4th and wants to creep over into the 5th to join the party.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hope I didn't confuse you much

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posted August 09, 2014 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I was just thinking Mars in the 9th could also mean someone who has strict principles about sex, like a moral code. Someone who's searching for a higher meaning in sex. Also someone who likes to learn and teach in this "field". Overall, it could be a placement for people interested in tantra and sex as a spiritual experience. What do you think, Cappy and Aries and everyone else?

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Yes.As I said- go wild. You may be surprised at what you find.

Mars in 9th may also suggests that there could be some psychological difficulties resolving sex and religion.