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Topic: Solar Arc/Natal synastry for your First Meeting...
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 06:02 AM
there is also a weird occurence in our natal synastry chart, in relation to certain asteroid pairs. They are quinkunx or almost quinkunx. his SIVA quinkunx my PARVATI 0°45 his ISIS quinkunx my OSIRIS 1°38 his PSYCHE is technically too wide for a quinkunx to my EROS, but still rather near: 4°14 The quinkunx is a significant aspect in his chart per se I think, as he has a NN of 1° Virgo, which is an angular difference (to the AP) of 151° - so his nodal axis reflects the quinkunx. It also means that every quinkunx in his natal will result in a conjunction between Draconic and natal chart. (at least if in the same phasal aspect, waxing or waning).
For our Draco-natal synastry it means his Draco ISIS conjunct my natal Osiris (0°15) his Draco SIVA conjunct my natal PARVATI (2°07) However it has another meaning in the terms of our first meeting. Like I said quinkunxes between natal pairings. We met when we were around 30 (well him 28, me 33) - and that is what happens in the solar arcs: (1) my sa EROS on 25.02 Leo opposite his n PSYCHE on 25.13 Aquarius
- since our Psyche are conjunct, it means I was having the opposition in my individual chart a bit prior to this. At the time of meeting my sa EROS opposite my natal PSYCHE was exactly one degree. It is like the natal was the preparation, somehow making me ready for meet someone, and then when it was time, he crossed my path. lol (2) his sa SIVA was on 26.52 Aquarius It was not yet in orb, but I still find it remarkable, that it was slowly applying to an opposition with my natal PARVATI on 28.39 Leo As a matter of fact this opposition was VERY close to peaking when I "resurfaced" in his life 2 years later. (0°0f a)
After that it would eventually go on to touch off his OWN PARVATI a few years later. So he was having sa SIVA = n PARVATI (conjunction) in 2011. Interestingly, on 24th september 2011 it was just separating by 0°14. This date seemed important, cause he picked it to approach me during a show and tease me a little. (at that time the sa composite Sun had also been precisely conjunct composite ASC - 0°00 orb. lol) I find it interesting that I had the natal solar arc of EROS to natal PSYCHE first, and then when I met him there was this EROS-PSYCHE-solar arc in the synastry. And for him it was the other way round. He first met me under a developing SIVA-PARVATI-synastric aspect, and only after that was applying to his own solar arc picture of Siva-Parvati. (3) as for the third of our natal quinkunxes between asteroid pairings. at our first meeting his sa ISIS on 8.26 Cancer opposing my natal OSIRIS on 7.50 Capricorn and my natal ISIS on 8.32 Capricorn As I told you, we actually saw each other a few months before, though we did not technically meet and talked. At that time his sa ISIS was on 8°09 Cancer, only 2 minutes before my natal ISIS/OSIRIS-mp. So as it seems we were having three asteroid pairings building up in solar arc (EROS-PSYCHE, SIVA-PARVATI, ISIS-OSIRIS), based on natal quinkunxes or almost-quinkunnxes in the case of Eros and Psyche, and since we met at around 30 years old, those quinkunxes built up to oppositions. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 06:20 AM
Leeloo, about your aspects: "Mars conjunct DSC - a general feeling of meeting a male partner, one suitable for my DSC
Neptune conjunct ASC exact - this means a lot of things. His Neptune is his DSC ruler," I find that very important, as it shows that you mutually met a complementary partner. his DESC-ruler coming to your ASC. his Mars as symbol of him as a man coming to your DESC. Did he approach you first? I also love the Jupiter-aspects. So positive and happy. "Uranus square Venus - a classical love at first sight, so to speak, aspect" Yeah definitely. Since it is his Uranus, did he push you out of your comfort zone, excited you, thrilled you, made you go veyond any kind of boundaries you might have ahd previouesly? What doesh is Uranus rule? what your Venus?
plus: "Chiron square Amor exact" How does it feel? Is it the healing or wounding touch?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 06:32 AM
as for other solar arc asteroid contacts on our first meeting: his sa to my natal (only under one degree) -------------------- his sa Venus conjunct my n Psyche (and mean Lilith)
his sa Vesta opposite my n Amor his sa Amor conjunct my n Pluto his sa Lust conunct my n Mars his sa Aphrodite conjunct my n Adonis. lol I find it interesting how one of the backbone oppositions in our chart is my Jupiter on his Eros, opposing his Amor-Mars-Jupiter (and squaring his Mercury on my ASC-Neptune-NN), and at the time of meeting his triple conjunction of Amor-mars-Jupiter has arced to my natal Pluto.
my sa to his natal --------------------- my sa Venus square his n Chiron
my sa Chiron opposite his n Uranus my sa Avx conjunct his n Psyche my sa Juno opposite his n Pluto my sa Vesta square his n Lust my sa Eros opposite his n Psyche my sa Psyche square his n Moon and MC my sa Psyche conjunct his n Avx IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 07:47 AM
last but not least - the solar arc composite -------------------------------------------- sa Pluto conjunct MC 0.02 s----------------------------------- sa Vertex square Sun 0.07 s sa Psyche square Sun 0.19a ----------------------------------- sa NN square Saturn 0.27s sa SN conjunct Juno 0.02a sa Nn conjunct Lust 0.13 s sa NN conjunct Valentine 1.18a - there is the funny thing, we have a Lust-Valentine-conjunction in composite, on the time of first meeting Lust would be triggered, and Valentine followed about 1-2 years later. lol- sa Amor square SAturn 0.17s sa Amor opposite Juno 0.12 a sa Amor conjunctLust 0.03 s sa Cupido square SAturn 0.28s sa Cupido opposite Juno 0.01 a sa Cupido conjunct Lust 0.14 s ---------------------------------- sa Moon conjunct Antivertex 0.39a sa Moon conjunct Psyche 0.14 a sa Moon square Valentine 0.49a sa Mars square Vertex 0.24 a sa Mars square Psyche 0.01 s
-------------------------------------- sa Saturn opposite isis 0.40a sa Juno square Isis 0.11 a sa Lust square Isis 0.14 s sa OSIRIS conjunct ISIS 0.48a
-------------------------------------- sa Neptune conjunct Venus 0.41 s sa Pholus square Venus 0.24 s sa Pholus opposite Pluto 1.11 s (past) ----------------------------------------- sa ASC conjunct Vesta 0.41 s sa Chiron square Vesta 0.52 a sa Union square Vesta 1.01a ----------------------------------- sa MC conjunct Mercury 0.59 s sa MC conjunct Sappho 0.24 s sa Priapus opposite Mercury 0.16 a sa Priappus oposite Sappho 0.51 a sa Eros conjunct Mercury 1.03a sa Eros conjunct Neptune 0.58s -------------------------------------- sa Lilith square NN 0.39a sa Lilith squrae Amor 0.28a sa Lilith square Cupido 0.40a --------------------------------- sa Siva conjunct Moon 0.28 a sa Siva square Mars 0.42 a IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 08:52 AM
Can't wait to check your aspects, Ceri, after I eat  ------------------
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 09:03 AM
I was pretty much dumbfounded, finding out we had these three soulmate pairings going on. Like the natal promise being brought into manifestation, but changing the aspect a little (a quainkunx becoming an opposition). I thought this was all the more interesting,thinking of the progressions and the first meeting chart as well. I mean the first meeting chart had a Siva-Parvati-conjunction!!! Right on our progressed composite ASC and Kaali and his progressed Parvati if I recall it rightly. That Siva-Parvati-occurence between us shocks me.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 11:10 AM
I also checked for the solar arcs that are active NOW (or on 23rd august). Everything over 30 minutes of arc is either not yet prominent (but in development), or fading away. (some also allow 40 minutes applying, and 20 minutes separating) my individual solar arcs --------------------------
sa DESC conjunct Saturn 0.34 s (fading) (Saturn ruling 2nd hous) sa Venus conjunct Moon 0.34 a (building) (Venus ruling 5th, Moon ruling 8th) sa Jupiter square Vertex 0.03 s (peak) sa Jupiter square Eros 0.38 s (fading) sa Jupiter square Sun/Moon-mp 0.06 s (peak) (Jupiter ruling 1st) sa Sun/Moon-mp square Mars 0.16 s sa Venus/Mars-mp square Uranus 0.18 a sa Vertex square Amor 0.09 a sa SN conjunct Eros 0.25 a sa NN square Chiron 0.32 (fading) sa Saturn square Valentine 0.10 a sa Neptune squar eChiron 0.19 s sa BML opposite pluto 0.02 a (peak) sa Psyche ocnjunct IC 0.39 a (building) sa pHolus square Saturn 0.15 s sa Priapus square NN 0.23 s his solar arcs -------------------- sa Sun square Vesta 0.18 s (Sun ruling 6th - probably relating to work) sa Venus conjunct SN 0.17a sa Venus conjunct Priapus 0.29 s (Venus rules int. 7th and 2nd) sa Uranus conjunct MC 0.26 s sa Uranus conjunct Moon 0.05 s (peaking) sa URanus square Vertex 0.14 (s) (Uranus ruling 12th) sa Neptune conjunct Venus 0.08 a (peaking) (Neptune ruling 1st, Venus ruling 7th and wnd) sa Sun/Moon-mp square Vesta 0.08 s (peaking) sa Lust square Mars 0.36 s (fading) the major arcs for him sa Venus conjunct n SN and sa Neptune conjunct n Venus along with Tr NN conjunct n Pluto will all three peak in october, around the time of the ecclipses and of course there will be another concert that month. 
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 11:36 AM
my solar arc to his natal -----------------------------my sa Vertex conjunct his NN 0.37 s (fading) my sa Sun square his n Lust 0.00 (absolute peak on 23rd august. lol on 6 degree fixed) my sa Moon square his n Sun 0.34 s (fading) my sa Moon opposite his n Saturn 0.48 s (fading) my sa Moon square his n Sun/Moon-mp 0.17 a (natally we have my Sun conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp) my sa Jupiter opposite his n Pluto 0.14 s my sa Uranus square his n Mars 0.41 s (fading) my sa Pluto conjunct his Valentine 0.06 a (peaking) my sa Chiron square his n Priapus 0.19a my sa Priapus conjunct his n Jupiter 0.24 s my sa Priapus conjunct his n Mars 0.32 a (building) his solar arcs to my natal --------------------------- his sa DESC conjunct my n Uranus 0.24 a his sa Sun square my n Uranus 0.56 s (fading) his sa Saturn conjunct my n Uranus 0.41 s (fading) - still you can get a "feel" for that, my Uranus hitting his Saturn on DESC, which is squared by his Sun on the MC, and actually Moon. But this has already happened. Around the time of the concert in 2011, where he approached me, his sa Moon was squaring my n Uranus (and boy, was that a surprise, I can tell you! lol). Moon ruling his 5th house. And now I was hitting his Sun, ruler of 6th house - his workplace Then I moved to hit his Saturn, ruler of 11th house right on the DESC - his sense of loveabilty and also how he responds to others and how he wants them to respond to him. After I thoroughly uranified (whatever that means) his workplace (Sun ruling 6th) and his sense of loveability, how he responds to the public and wants others to respond to him (Saturn, ruling 11th falling onto DESC), I uranify his DESC specifically. opposing his natal Vesta btw; his sa ASC is slowly applying to conjunct his n Vesta on 2.59 Taurus. Now it ALSO means he doesn`t only bring his sa DESC to my Uranus, but also to my n 11th house cusp, and of course his sa ASC to my 5th house cusp, where it is actually triggering off my Moon/Saturn-mp (ruler of 2nd and 8th house). Of course it also means that he thouroughly solarizes my Uranus and brings it centre stage through his sa DESC. He still probably experiences me in an Uranian way (after all it is his DESC). But it also triggers that Uranian side of me. Well he rules 3rd house of communications and is being found on the 11th house cusp. So actually for both of us the 11th house concerns have come to the foreground. other than that major contact
his sa Mars square my n Sturn 0.32 a (building) uff, is that really necessary? putting his mars onto my 2nd house ruler of physical insecurities?  and it is his traditional 8th house ruler, with my Mars falling into his 8th house natally, so there is already a Mars-8th house-correlation, and now that one hitting my oh so restricted, blocked because of some inferiority complexes connected to issues surounding selfworth because of my physical being, Saturn in 8th house. This is all the more significant I think, as Tr Uranus is doing a dance - or more like kasachoc - opposing his sa Mars and squaring my n Saturn. Oh and of course Tr Uranus is also opposing composite Pluto and squaring composite Venus, Turns out that composite Venus is opposing my natal Saturn, and at the moment composite Pluto is conjunct his sa Mars, which is almost scary as composite Mars is conjunct his natal Pluto anyway (and natal Pluto rules his 8th house - so wherever we twist and turn, we cannot evade that 8th house it seems). his sa Pluto conjuncts my n Valentine 0.49 a (building) a wide conjunction, yes, but I thought it was funny that we hae a DW of that, as my sa Pluto conjuncts his n Valentine as well. Hmm does that mean sa Pluto is also conjunction composite Valentine? Let me check later
so his sa Priapus squares my n Venus 0.01 a (peak)
his sa Valentine conjuncts my n Mercury 0.07 a (peak) his sa Valentine conjuncts my n Sun 1.01 a (building) wide aspect, but nice one
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 350 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 08, 2014 12:09 PM
Can you guys let me know if you think this would have significance? My first time looking at solar arcs so I am only writing what seemed significant and under 2 orbs)!Day of first meeting: His solar arc venus conjunct his own natal sun/saturn (and my first name in his chart) My solar arc sun conjunct my own natal venus (and his pluto and square his eros) His SA sun square my natal lust His SA juno square my natal karma exact. Interestingly in the FM chart karma conjuncts his own natal juno exact. His SA chiron opp my natal uranus exact (my chart ruler) & conjunct my natal chiron His SA jupiter square my natal sun His SA saturn conjunct my natal vesta exact His SA uranus conjunct my natal union (1) & opposite my moon His SA union conjunct my natal IC (1) My SA karma square his natal venus/atropos exact My SA pluto square his natal saturn exact My SA chiron square his natal uranus exact My SA NN square his natal union (1) That's all I've been able to figure out so far...  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 01:03 PM
short check of the solar arc composite (using solar fire, for an easier view, but that means no big asteroid-party ) --------------------------------But yes sa Pluto is on 23.06 Scorpio.  c-Lust 22.03 Scorpio c-Valentine 23.34 Scorpio (seems it is captured right between Lust and Valentine) c-Juno 22.19 Taurus So yes, it is applying to a conjunction with c-Valentine. Other than that sa Moon semisquare Venus 0.16a sa Moon sesisquare Pluto 0.31 s sa Mars semisquare Venus 0.00 (PEAK) sa Mars semisquare Pluto 0.46 s (fading)
it means that two dominant aspects sort of come together, even though "just" through 8th harmonic aspects; the Moon-Mars-square arcing to the Venus-Pluto-square. sa Mercury sesisquare Jupiter 0.35 a sa Venus conj. Avx 1.08 a (building) I also find it interesting that about 2 years ago we had sa Venus opposite Saturn, but now it is 2°03 separating - a blockage fading away? Actually that means our sa Pluto was squaring Saturn in 7th house - and that is said to be one of the toughest aspects at all. (I hope it is not THTA bad though, as I am going to have that in transits in 2016/ 2017 lol). Actually it was in full play in 2012, especially the sa Venus opposing Saturn during the time paranoia got a hold of me, and I decided to totally disappear from his life, which I did for about 9 months.
Interestingly I sort of reappeared when sa Venus was almost exactly opposing composite Saturn (one minute separating); while he certainly noticed me on that occasion and seemed pleased to see me (though surprised), the months after that the sort-of-interaction got even weirder than ever before. I had never seen his eyes that "veiled" before, and never had felt as if he was "deliberately blocking me out". I thought I was just being paranoid, but maybe it was exactly what it was. He didn`t know what to do with me, got fed up with my evasiveness and popping-in-and-out (sort of), my acts of disappearance and avoidance, and just pretended I did not exist. lol Which he usually did while standing so close that he almost was brushing me. Or ignoring me, while at the same time watching me. It was a VERY weird and strained period. lol I think the peak of it was somewhen last year, high tension, or was it just me feeling that? Was it really a coincidence, all these occurrences, I now remember?
Anyway on the last concert I recall that "strange vibe" between us, sa Venus had already been one degree off composite Saturn, and sa Pluto by then was separating from the square by 17 minutes.
Actually - and that astrological "coincidence" gives me goosebumps - the square of sa Pluto to c-Saturn was exact (0.00 orb) the day he got in another relationship!
What are the chances of that happening? I mean that total break down and the astrological symbol not just fitting but being PRECISE so it seems our composite does not like to have the Venus-Pluto-square arcing into a 4th harmonic pattern with the 12th house ruler Saturn in Leo in 7th house (oh and of course Saturn also rules the 1st house traditionally).
Last november, when I decided to exchange a few insignificant words with him (but it helped to break the complete silence and weirdness), sa Pluto had been separating from that square to Saturn by 31 minutes of arc. one minute out of the orb they say is valid for separating aspects. LOL Maybe they are right. After that things have felt a lot easier and more open.
But it is curious tosee it that exactly reflected in the composite. anyway to continue with our current solar arc composite. lol -------------------
so let me try to focus on the Now sa Moon semisquare Venus 0.16 a sa Moon sesisquare Pluto 0.31 s sa Mars semisquare Venus 0.00 (absolute pea) sa Mars semisquare Pluto 0.46 s (fading) sa Venus conjunct Avx 1.08 a (building) sa Pluto opposite Juno 0.47 s (fading) (sa Pluto square Vx 1.56 a - should get interesting in about 1-2 years, when the Venus-Pluto-square arcs to the Vertex-axis. lol also at about the same time the nodal axis along with Amor and Cupido of course will touch off the comosite Venus-Pluto-square. sa Mars is sort of the messenger now, and the nodal bunch will followr, and 5 years after that Pluto will prepare his strike. lol) sa Mercury sesisquare Jupiter 0.35 a (building) sa Neptune conjunct Moon 0.11 s sa Neptune square Mars 0.03 a (peak)
sa SN conjunct BML 0.13 s actually the timeframe in about 1-2 years looks interesting as several arcs are building up.
So let us have a look at august 2015: (composite solar arcs of course)
sa Moon conjunct Vesta 0.24 a sa Mars square Vesta 0.09 s (peak) sa Jupiter exactly opposite the Moon/Venus-mp sa Venus conjunct Avx 0.07 a (peak) sa Pluto square Vx 0.55 a (building) sa Juno sesisquare MC 0.29 a (Saturn will follow) sa NN semisquare Pluto 0.34 a (building) sa NN semisquare Venus 1.21 a (building into the future - probably 2016 would be more the date. lol) sa ASC square Jupiter 0.25 a sa MC conjunct Sun, 7th ruler, 0.51 a (again 2016?) sa MC semisquare Uranus, 1st ruler; 1.47 a (definitely 2016; late part)
sa Pof square MC 1.11 a (2016 lol) sa BML semisquare Juno 0.00 (the other woman meets the wife. LOL)
and after that projecting in the future sa MC will trigger the 1st and 7th ruler of our composite. lol IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 01:11 PM
sorry I think I got carried away. lolIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by IntuitiveJ: Can you guys let me know if you think this would have significance? My first time looking at solar arcs so I am only writing what seemed significant and under 2 orbs)!Day of first meeting: His solar arc venus conjunct his own natal sun/saturn (and my first name in his chart) My solar arc sun conjunct my own natal venus (and his pluto and square his eros) His SA sun square my natal lust His SA juno square my natal karma exact. Interestingly in the FM chart karma conjuncts his own natal juno exact. His SA chiron opp my natal uranus exact (my chart ruler) & conjunct my natal chiron His SA jupiter square my natal sun His SA saturn conjunct my natal vesta exact His SA uranus conjunct my natal union (1) & opposite my moon His SA union conjunct my natal IC (1) My SA karma square his natal venus/atropos exact My SA pluto square his natal saturn exact My SA chiron square his natal uranus exact My SA NN square his natal union (1) That's all I've been able to figure out so far... 
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 350 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 08, 2014 01:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: can you list the exact orbs? (minutes)
Where do I find that? Lol In the PDF? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14552 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2014 01:29 PM
you will have to calculate them in your head. Also 2 degree orbs are too wide for solar arcs. 30 minutes applying, 30 minutes separating. Unless you are not inquiring about a specific time and what is going on THAT time, but rather want to see what has been falling away in the past, or will come into development in the future. IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 350 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 08, 2014 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: you will have to calculate them in your head. Also 2 degree orbs are too wide for solar arcs. 30 minutes applying, 30 minutes separating. Unless you are not inquiring about a specific time and what is going on THAT time, but rather want to see what has been falling away in the past, or will come into development in the future.
Awwww this is over my head  No idea how to calculate this or what Is separating or applying  But thank you for responding!!
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: His theme:Moon conjunct natal NN/IC (0) Eros conjunct natal DSC (0) The interesting thing is he had Moon=NN, and you had Saturn=Vertex. Very complementary. fated emotional meeting, Mommy and Daddy (in the most positive way of course).
Also he was in for an encounter full of erotic. Keep in mind: solar arcs work for a timespan of a whole year, 6 months to exactness, 6 months after that. They provide a "background theme" (a dominating one though).
There are times in life when actualy no arc will be at play; if you have a busy time, you will maybe have 3-5 arcs, that will be really many (including 8th harmonic aspects even, which are still valid, though a little more subtle.).
The BIG changes happen only with the involvement of Sun, Moon and the angles - I would add nodal axis and Vertex to that list.
Now you have a background theme for a whole year. When to know that something is going to happen? You trace the progressed Moon when it is going to trigger off (4th harmonic!) any of your planets. It does not HAVE to be a planet that is part of the solar arc picture, though if it is. MAJOR.
Also major if it activates the luminaries or angles of course. I would add Venus for the romance factor (and we could add the spicy little erotic rocks in space - yes i mean asteroids; however without the angle/luminary action, it would be a nice flirt, but nothing totally transforming). Speaking about transforming, you will find the big guys doing the arcs; Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto; however do not forget the 7th house ruler and 5th and 8th house ruler though. Jupiter might be there, too and Mars, but those are more like the happy or dynamic times, that come and go, unless some real big guy is calling the shots to your angles or luminaries at the same time (think of the time-orb! 6 months applying, 6 months separating).
Okay, now, letīs say your pr Moon also has activated something real big in your chart. It still is valid for about 3 months (1 degree orb for pr Moon, remember?)
NOW you trace the transits.
And no, not the transits of Sun or Venus. FORGET.IT. Nice days, yes. sweet time, an annoying busdriver. But not the big change. you want to trace transits of, you know what I am going to say, right? (Jupiter), Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, (nodal axis), maybe Mars
(Jupiter and Nodal axis is my addition, they are slow moviing enough to be real important). And then you should have it.
I have to decant my exact aspects from that list, but now I'll follow your advice and look at progressions one more time. I totally agree with the Moon being a trigger, she moves fast, she is cyclic and connected to anything with a strong emotional impact. As you know, we both had progressed Sun/Moon at the time of the meeting, but not in orb yet. My moon applying to a Sun square (5), he had Moon appl to a conjunction to the Sun, wide from the Sun. But the window was open, they were both applying. Compared to my natal, I also had my progressed Moon on my ASC, separating (4), but in exact opposition to Cupido and in exact square to my Chiron and applying to a square to Uranus (2), so I guess this square to Uranus is very significant. Uranus rules my 1st (intercepted), Moon rules my DSC. And it was indeed a surprise!! Compared to his natal, his progressed Moon was applying to his natal Chiron (3) and in exact opp to his Vesta, but no 4th harmonic to planets. Moon separating from Cupido (5). Despite the wide orbs, I find the similarities with Cupido and Chiron interesting. Looking at transits, I had Neptune opp natal Venus (3) Jupiter conjunct DSC (1) Uranus opp Mercury (5th/8th ruler) (0) Venus on MC (1) Moon on 5th cusp (0) near Eros
and other things He had: Moon on natal Mars (0) Venus on natal Moon (0) Neptune on Jupiter (1) Jupiter square Chiron (0) Uranus on Cupido (1) These are progression, not SA. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: for my own first meeting with mr Sag: my background arcs
I'm not surprised about Uranus. The others are surprising, well, not surprising, but interesting: Mars/Pluto definitely a Phoenix stuff, when something has to die rather abrubtly, and the antagonism with Venus/Saturn, when you take your time lol a bit of an antagonism between Venus and Mars in you at that time. He must have awakened contradictory stuff in you. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: his directions at our first meeting
So you both had Vertex/Juno? That is indeed interesting, it sounds very fated. Unfortunately, it seems Venus/Saturn for both shows this scenario in which two people meet, but then they both retreat, or something raises a wall between them, like the rest of the world, for a while, as if it's not the time yet. However, the rest of the fated contacts show there IS a potential contact. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4407 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 08, 2014 02:17 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:20 PM
his sa Mercury square my n Pluto 0.44 a his sa Mars conjunct my n Pluto 0.58 s his sa Jupiter conjunct my n Pluto 0.02 shis sa Sun semisquare my n Jupiter 0.15a his sa Venus sesisqurae my n Pluto 0.48s his sa Saturn semisquare my n NN 0.30 s his a Pluto semisquare my n Venus 0.46a his sa Pluto semisquare my n MC 0.15 s his sa ASC sesisquare my n Neptune 0.20a his sa ASC sesisquare my n NN 0.33 a So he also brought some Mars/Pluto to you? wow so interesting...he activated a lot of your Pluto. my sa Moon square his n Neptune 0.42 s my sa Juno opposite his n Pluto 0.21 a my sa Venus semisquare his n ASC 0.27 a my sa Mars semisquare his n Uranus 0.45 s my sa Uranus semisquare his n Pluto 0.58 a my sa Pluto semisquare his n Moon 0.30a my sa Pluto semisquare his n MC 0.10a my sa Pluto semisquare his n Vertex 0.22 a my sa Pluto = his n Moon/VErtex = his n MC/Vertex your Pluto all over him too lol ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:21 PM
Gabby,you choose the option: "Natal, progressions and solar arc combined", then you enter the pdf and you can see your Solar Arc positions listed (the image is hard to read). ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So as it seems we were having three asteroid pairings building up in solar arc (EROS-PSYCHE, SIVA-PARVATI, ISIS-OSIRIS), based on natal quinkunxes or almost-quinkunnxes in the case of Eros and Psyche, and since we met at around 30 years old, those quinkunxes built up to oppositions.
I love these pairs and the fact that they were building up simultaneously. I really think you'd be a great couple . ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 02:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Leeloo, about your aspects: "Mars conjunct DSC - a general feeling of meeting a male partner, one suitable for my DSC
Neptune conjunct ASC exact - this means a lot of things. His Neptune is his DSC ruler," I find that very important, as it shows that you mutually met a complementary partner. his DESC-ruler coming to your ASC. his Mars as symbol of him as a man coming to your DESC. Did he approach you first? I also love the Jupiter-aspects. So positive and happy. "Uranus square Venus - a classical love at first sight, so to speak, aspect" Yeah definitely. Since it is his Uranus, did he push you out of your comfort zone, excited you, thrilled you, made you go veyond any kind of boundaries you might have ahd previouesly? What doesh is Uranus rule? what your Venus?
plus: "Chiron square Amor exact" How does it feel? Is it the healing or wounding touch?
Yes, he's the one who approached me and we have been very happy to find each other, to be with each other, to be in contact and discover each other. At the same time, Chiron has been indeed very present, now wonder it shows up there: all wounds from the past on both sides, all insecurities popped up. But there has been a general feeling of awakening, like waking from a deep long sleep, and I associate Chiron with that, I guess the wounds are like the numb limbs when you awake, you start feeling your legs and hands again and remember all previous wounds to them lol perhaps an inescapable process.
Uranus defines our surprising connection and the fact that we've talked a lot on the internet after the initial encounter, we've connected like this, being in different places at the beginning, for a while. Uranus here is important also because it rules his 5th house. Venus rules my IC (and my 9th) and indeed our connection involves important 9th house issues. Chiron square Amor, I think, needs the physical presence of the other for the actual healing to take place. There has been a lot of longing about this, but also coupled with the need and desire to know each other through words first. The distance was very helpful. Chiron square Amor also brought the possibility to find love, hopefully true love, in an unlikely place/circumstance. I think Chiron is not only a wounded healer, but he also wakes you up somehow.
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posted August 08, 2014 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Gabby,[b]you choose the option: "Natal, progressions and solar arc combined", then you enter the pdf and you can see your Solar Arc positions listed (the image is hard to read). [/B]
Ok!! Thank you!
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5042 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 09, 2014 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Selene: My FM with Mr.Uranus. I am not using asteroids. my SR to his natal my SR ASC opposite his Sun exact - i think this one's obvious. I was instantly attracted to him. my SR ASC opposite his MC exact - this may point to a soul connection my SR Jupiter conjunct his Sun/Moon MP exact [b]my SR Uranus conjunct his Moon exact - as if i wasn't expecting that already - this was expected... Uranus is a big time player not only for me personally, but in our synastry it has taken a major role. my SR Neptune conjunct his DSC 1 - he was quite blinded too.. otherwise he wouldn't have told me things he did - in our first meeting. Sometimes you don't talk about those things with people you know well, and definitely not with a complete stranger. my SR Pluto conjunct his SN exact - we have met in our past lives His SR to my natal
His SR Venus opposite my Mercury exact His SR Venus opposite my Venus 1 His SR Jupiter opposite my Jupiter exact - not sure on that - seems that we have mostly oppositions in this regard. Interesting. His SR Saturn opposite my Mars exact His SR Uranus conjunct my Neptune exact, conjunct his Jupiter exact, conjunct our composite Sun exact - this is huge. Like we were supposed to meet at this time of his life, and our whole relationship (Sun) is coloured with the Uranus flavour (and yes, it is) his SR to my SR his SR Sun opposite my SR Venus exact - well, this is a classic aspect that points to a beginning of a relationship. In our case it turned out to be a friendship, but it definitely started like something else! his SR Moon conjunct my SR NN 1 - he helps me to embrace my destiny - totally true. I wouldn't be were i am now, if it wasn't for him. He basically took me to the people i consider my friends now. They are like family for me. his SR Jupiter conjunct my SR Saturn 1,5 his SR Neptune conjunct my SR Uranus right on his natal Moon exact - this is interesting as well [/B]
Thank you! a lot of Uranus, no wonder his name is Mr. Uranus It seems to have been a surprising and exhilarating meeting.
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