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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 07, 2014 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...a clue about what the meeting brings.

Both in you natal/SA comparison, but mostly when you compare the other's natal to your SA and viceversa.

* inspired by Ceri

Does it fit for you? Does it tell the story of the FM and of what followed?

I find the conjunctions between Solar Arc and natal for the time of the meeting very revealing. It shows a THEME.

Comparing Solar Arc to Solar Arc is futile, for the comparison will reflect the synastric aspects.


EDIT: For a clear view of the actual moment of the meeting, ORBS UNDER 1.

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posted August 07, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my last important FM, I had, comparing my SA with my own natal:

Solar Arcs first

Saturn conjunct natal Vertex/Amor (0)
Psyche conjunct natal Jupiter/Juno (0)

(other aspects: Sun conjunct natal Uranus (3)
Moon conjunct natal Sun (2)
Mercury/Pluto conjunct natal MC (2 and 3)
Venus conjunct natal Mercury (3)
Mars conjunct natal Venus (2)
Jupiter conjunct natal Chiron (3)

Uranus conjunct natal Neptune (3)
Neptune conjunct natal ASC (4)
NN/POF conjunct natal ASC (3)
Vertex conjunct natal Mars/Pluto
Cupido conjunct natal Venus (4))


Because there are so many conjunctions, it's hard to talk about a theme in this case, but one can say that was an overall very significant meeting/period in my life.


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posted August 07, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For him it was:

Moon conjunct natal NN/IC (0)
Eros conjunct natal DSC (0)


(other aspects: Mercury conjunct natal Cupido (2)
Jupiter conjunct natal Cupido (2)
Venus conjunct natal Sun (4)
Uranus conjunct natal Neptune (3)
Neptune conjunct natal Lilith (3)
Pluto conjunct natal Moon (2)
NN conjunct natal Venus (4)
Ceres conjunct natal Sun (4) natal DSC (2)
Juno conjunct natal Sun (1)
Pholus/Alma conjunct natal Chiron (2)
Priapus conjunct natal ASC (2) hahahaha
Valentine conjunct natal Moon (4))

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posted August 07, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All right, so we've established it was an important meeting/life period for both people, now let's check SA versus natal. Another important thing to look here, IMO, are the squares. When a SA planet/asteroid of the other squares anything significant in the other's natal, the SA person most likely triggers something, this is a sign for a possible "turning point". Let's say the conjunctions point to union and taking a common path, perhaps (of course conjunctions are triggers as well, they bring a new cycle, like a New Moon - for example he already has SA Venus conjunct natal Sun - applying - the beginning of a new cycle, the chance to meet a love interest), but the squares would show the potential for a transformative, turning point meeting, one with a major impact, they are like a punch in the belly lol. At least one very significant square has to be there, IMO.

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posted August 07, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My FM with Mr.Uranus. I am not using asteroids.

my SR to his natal

my SR ASC opposite his Sun exact - i think this one's obvious. I was instantly attracted to him.
my SR ASC opposite his MC exact - this may point to a soul connection
my SR Jupiter conjunct his Sun/Moon MP exact
my SR Uranus conjunct his Moon exact - as if i wasn't expecting that already - this was expected... Uranus is a big time player not only for me personally, but in our synastry it has taken a major role.
my SR Neptune conjunct his DSC 1 - he was quite blinded too.. otherwise he wouldn't have told me things he did - in our first meeting. Sometimes you don't talk about those things with people you know well, and definitely not with a complete stranger.
my SR Pluto conjunct his SN exact - we have met in our past lives


His SR to my natal

His SR Venus opposite my Mercury exact
His SR Venus opposite my Venus 1
His SR Jupiter opposite my Jupiter exact - not sure on that - seems that we have mostly oppositions in this regard. Interesting.
His SR Saturn opposite my Mars exact
His SR Uranus conjunct my Neptune exact, conjunct his Jupiter exact, conjunct our composite Sun exact - this is huge. Like we were supposed to meet at this time of his life, and our whole relationship (Sun) is coloured with the Uranus flavour (and yes, it is)

his SR to my SR

his SR Sun opposite my SR Venus exact - well, this is a classic aspect that points to a beginning of a relationship. In our case it turned out to be a friendship, but it definitely started like something else!
his SR Moon conjunct my SR NN 1 - he helps me to embrace my destiny - totally true. I wouldn't be were i am now, if it wasn't for him. He basically took me to the people i consider my friends now. They are like family for me.
his SR Jupiter conjunct my SR Saturn 1,5
his SR Neptune conjunct my SR Uranus right on his natal Moon exact - this is interesting as well

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posted August 07, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SA to his natal

Sun conjunct natal Uranus (5th ruler) exact

Moon opp natal Sun (1) Yin/Yang

Mercury conjunct natal Moon (2) - this is an interesting one, and I'm fascinated by Mercury's role as Facilitator/Initiator - well, my Mercury rules 5th/8th so this applies too, but let's say an awakening of the sleeping deep Scorpio Moon through words, which is exactly what happened

Venus conjunct natal Vesta - perhaps the Vesta fire is awakened or issues regarding loyalty/fidelity

Jupiter/Chiron - a healing effect, both physical and of the heart - my Jupiter rules my 2nd and 11th

Saturn conjunct Union exact - not a bad one, considering Saturn is my DSC/ASC planet. Saturn opp his Mercury - new discipline to the mind

Uranus conjunct natal Neptune (4), Neptune being his DSC ruler, would point to an unaspected, unusual partnerhsip

Pluto/natal Moon - self-explanatory - Pluto on the Scorpio Moon in combo with Mercury would wake her up by words or movements

NNPOF/natal Lilith, Lilith/natal Sun - the complex Lilith theme in our synastry

Pallas conjunct natal Jupiter - that is an interesting one, a possible bringer of order, also Pallas is actually Jupiter's daughter, so it may trigger parental reflexes in the Jupiter person

Juno/Pholus conjunct natal Chiron - ouch at first, but lessons about partnerships are brought to the fore

Cupido opp natal Jupiter - it was a lot of happiness in the meeting indeed

ASC conjunct natal Mercury exact - my direction and my approach at the time triggered this person's mind, a desire for movement and understanding and major issues regarding his own personal outlook and direction in life (Mercury rules ASC and MC in his chart)

MC conjunct natal NN/IC - this is a connective, important conjunction


Now the squares from my SA to his natal:

Sun square Pallas - discovering strategy and planing within oneself when and where it was lacking

Moon square MC/IC and NN/IC - a woman/turning point lol


Mercury square Eros - that's a secret

Venus square Chiron - pain and awakening indeed

Mars opp his natal Amor square his natal Venus - Mars rules my 3rd house and it brought a change of vision/pace through communication, hopefully. Of course, this is also an aspect of strongly felt attraction.

Uranus/Chiron square Jupiter, IC/NN ruler - kinda self-explanatory, GENERAL turning-point potential

Neptune square Vesta exact: my 2nd ruler did that...I guess, learning about commitment through a shock

Valentine square Jupiter (IC, NN and Sun ruler) - not a bad one for romantic potential

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posted August 07, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is SR Solar Arc, Selene?

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posted August 07, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo, an idiot's guide is needed. How do you get your solar arc calculations? Do you have to do each one individually?

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posted August 07, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Is SR Solar Arc, Selene?


Oh, yes. It is. I mistyped, my bad.

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posted August 07, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no, no, you choose the option: "Natal, progressions and solar arc combined", then you enter the pdf and you can see your Solar Arc positions listed (the image is hard to read).

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posted August 07, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
LeeLoo, an idiot's guide is needed. How do you get your solar arc calculations? Do you have to do each one individually?

Yes! As astro guide for dummies : ))

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posted August 07, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No, no, no, you choose the option: "Natal, progressions and solar arc combined", then you enter the pdf and you can see your Solar Arc positions listed (the image is hard to read).


Thanks LL : )

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posted August 07, 2014 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
Oh, yes. It is. I mistyped, my bad.


All right then ...it would be interesting if you wrote what you think each connection means or how you felt it

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posted August 07, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 07, 2014 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, interesting, interesting. I wanna do it.

Just have to be somehwere else for a few minutes.

4th harmonic aspects are REALLY revealing, even the square, yes, yes, yes.

First time I brushed telepathy and the notion of soulmates and past lives and actually LInda Goodman, I had sa Neptune conjunct Sun and Mercury.


Orb has to be of course exact. 6 months leading up to exactness, 6 months after wards, which equals an orb of 30 minutes applying and separating.

Yes i know you will not like it, but anything greater than this orb, expands the time over one year into 2 or 3 or 5 years.


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Comparing Solar Arc to Solar Arc is futile, for the comparison will reflect the synastric aspects.



That is absolutely true.... YET I noticed something interesting.

In the case of a considerable age difference, actually some aspect might get tighter or more loosely through this.


For example Mr Sag and me are 5 years apart in age, we have a 5 degree Venus-Mars trine, which means that in solar arcs my Venus and his Mars are walking in step, through the 5 year age difference the 5 degree orb reduces to exactness. Though of course with Solar arcs we consider only 4th or 8th harmonic aspects in terms of EVENTS, what is going to happen.


Also synastrically his Venus is 4,5 degrees off my Antivertex, which also results in his Venus and my Antivertex walking in step in solar arc.

Why should that be important, cause of course it will never change, it will always be the same difference in solar arcs.

It can become important however, if it touches on a natal planet at a certain age.

For example. right now. lol I swear I did not even realize that before posting here.

my SA Antivertex is on 1.56 Pisces on his n SN on either 1 or 2 Pisces (depending if we use mean or true - what DO we use btw?)

his sa Venus is on 1.12 Pisces.


Well of course my sa Avx and his sa Venus will ALWAYS be conjunct exactly, because of the age difference, however those times it might become more important is when it actually touches off an natal planet or point, like it does this year; it means that not only has he got sa Venus= node but my sa Antivertex joins him on there, so it is my sa avx= his sa Venus= his n Node.

of course the sa to natal are more important, but I still thought it was worthy mentioning it.


BTW some astrolgers say you must NEVER compare solar arcs to another`s natal, as they are totally symbolic and derived from your own individual chart. But I donīt agree with them.


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posted August 07, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only exact ones count with solar arcs. Honestly. For real this time.

Let`s say
"Sun conjunct natal Uranus (3)"
if this is an applying aspect it means it has still about 3 years to go to trigger your natal Uranus.

Especially in terms of a first meeting chart, this is a "point in time", not a phase.


So your theme would be:

Saturn conjunct natal Vertex/Amor (0)
Psyche conjunct natal Jupiter/Juno (0)


You were n for an absolutely fated meeting (Saturn=Vertex).

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posted August 07, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His SA to my natal

Sun opp Lust hahaha
Venus conjunct Jupiter opp Sun - happiness and feeling loved

Mars conjunct DSC - a general feeling of meeting a male partner, one suitable for my DSC

Jupiter opp Mercury - expansive communication, also my Merc is my 5th and 8th ruler

Neptune conjunct ASC exact - this means a lot of things. His Neptune is his DSC ruler, Sun disp - let's say a suitable partner, feeling admire, adored, idealized etc - also a bit of mystery and not knowing how the other really is

Pluto conjunct MC -a powerful transformation was triggered for me, compulsion on both sides. Pluto rules his 3rd. Understanding oneself on a deep level through the other.

NN conjunct Psyche - a story unfolding, with Psyche connotations, another theme of our synastry

POF conjunct Jupiter - a fated contact

Lilith opp Venus - another stone at our Lilith foundation; perception of my Venus as a "Lilith", which definitely happened

Ceres opp Sun and Mars - feeling taken cared of, fed

Pallas opp Venus - bringing understanding and structure to my Venus

Juno opp Sun - general partnership vibe, triggering the partner in me

Priapus conjunct Sun and Mars - guess what lol

Eros opp Mars exact - that too lol

Psyche opp Venus exact - very pretty contact this one

Union conjunct Mars/Pluto - his desire for Union triggers my Mars/Pluto

Amor conjunct Karma - a fated contact

Lust conjunct Vesta and MC - the same theme as above

Cupido conjunct IC - falling in love

Valentine conjunct Vesta/MC - the same


The punches in the belly lol the potential for a turning point, the squares

Sun square Psyche - awakening of the soul

Moon square Sun/Mars mdp - emotional trigger of one of my most important relationship mdps

Venus square my natal NN/POF (3) - hm this is true, I took a turn because of this meeting

Mars square Alma exact - this one, the same; a man piercing your soul

Uranus square Venus - a classical love at first sight, so to speak, aspect
plus:
Chiron square Amor exact

Lilith square Eros

Vesta square Vertex - an interesting one, let's say devotion, commitment changes the outcome of a meeting

Pholus/Alma square ASC/DSC - a general surprise, lol

Lust square Moon - Moon discovers new needs
Valentine square Moon

Karma square Psyche exact

BTW, when you look at conjunctions, also look at oppositions


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posted August 07, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His theme:

Moon conjunct natal NN/IC (0)
Eros conjunct natal DSC (0)


The interesting thing is he had Moon=NN, and you had Saturn=Vertex. Very complementary. fated emotional meeting, Mommy and Daddy (in the most positive way of course).

Also he was in for an encounter full of erotic.


Keep in mind: solar arcs work for a timespan of a whole year, 6 months to exactness, 6 months after that.
They provide a "background theme" (a dominating one though).


There are times in life when actualy no arc will be at play; if you have a busy time, you will maybe have 3-5 arcs, that will be really many (including 8th harmonic aspects even, which are still valid, though a little more subtle.).


The BIG changes happen only with the involvement of Sun, Moon and the angles - I would add nodal axis and Vertex to that list.

Now you have a background theme for a whole year.
When to know that something is going to happen?


You trace the progressed Moon when it is going to trigger off (4th harmonic!) any of your planets. It does not HAVE to be a planet that is part of the solar arc picture, though if it is. MAJOR.

Also major if it activates the luminaries or angles of course. I would add Venus for the romance factor (and we could add the spicy little erotic rocks in space - yes i mean asteroids; however without the angle/luminary action, it would be a nice flirt, but nothing totally transforming).


Speaking about transforming, you will find the big guys doing the arcs; Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto;
however do not forget the 7th house ruler and 5th and 8th house ruler though.
Jupiter might be there, too and Mars, but those are more like the happy or dynamic times, that come and go, unless some real big guy is calling the shots to your angles or luminaries at the same time (think of the time-orb! 6 months applying, 6 months separating).


Okay, now, letīs say your pr Moon also has activated something real big in your chart.
It still is valid for about 3 months (1 degree orb for pr Moon, remember?)


NOW you trace the transits.

And no, not the transits of Sun or Venus. FORGET.IT.
Nice days, yes. sweet time, an annoying busdriver. But not the big change.

you want to trace transits of, you know what I am going to say, right?


(Jupiter), Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, (nodal axis), maybe Mars

(Jupiter and Nodal axis is my addition, they are slow moviing enough to be real important).


And then you should have it.

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posted August 07, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Only exact ones count with solar arcs. Honestly. For real this time.

Let`s say
"Sun conjunct natal Uranus (3)"
if this is an applying aspect it means it has still about 3 years to go to trigger your natal Uranus.

Especially in terms of a first meeting chart, this is a "point in time", not a phase.


So your theme would be:

Saturn conjunct natal Vertex/Amor (0)
Psyche conjunct natal Jupiter/Juno (0)


You were n for an absolutely fated meeting (Saturn=Vertex).



I know you're for real

I think the energy of the planet there is felt, it gives the vibe (plus I like to look at things in advance lol), but Ceri is right. For a MEETING, we need to look at under 1 deg. aspects. So, you heard the lady cut down the rest (or put it in brackets or something)

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posted August 07, 2014 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
His theme:

Moon conjunct natal NN/IC (0)
Eros conjunct natal DSC (0)


The interesting thing is he had Moon=NN, and you had Saturn=Vertex. Very complementary. fated emotional meeting, Mommy and Daddy (in the most positive way of course).

Also he was in for an encounter full of erotic.


Keep in mind: solar arcs work for a timespan of a whole year, 6 months to exactness, 6 months after that.
They provide a "background theme" (a dominating one though).


There are times in life when actualy no arc will be at play; if you have a busy time, you will maybe have 3-5 arcs, that will be really many (including 8th harmonic aspects even, which are still valid, though a little more subtle.).


The BIG changes happen only with the involvement of Sun, Moon and the angles - I would add nodal axis and Vertex to that list.

Now you have a background theme for a whole year.
When to know that something is going to happen?


You trace the progressed Moon when it is going to trigger off (4th harmonic!) any of your planets. It does not HAVE to be a planet that is part of the solar arc picture, though if it is. MAJOR.

Also major if it activates the luminaries or angles of course. I would add Venus for the romance factor (and we could add the spicy little erotic rocks in space - yes i mean asteroids; however without the angle/luminary action, it would be a nice flirt, but nothing totally transforming).


Speaking about transforming, you will find the big guys doing the arcs; Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto;
however do not forget the 7th house ruler and 5th and 8th house ruler though.
Jupiter might be there, too and Mars, but those are more like the happy or dynamic times, that come and go, unless some real big guy is calling the shots to your angles or luminaries at the same time (think of the time-orb! 6 months applying, 6 months separating).


Okay, now, letīs say your pr Moon also has activated something real big in your chart.
It still is valid for about 3 months (1 degree orb for pr Moon, remember?)


NOW you trace the transits.

And no, not the transits of Sun or Venus. FORGET.IT.
Nice days, yes. sweet time, an annoying busdriver. But not the big change.

you want to trace transits of, you know what I am going to say, right?


(Jupiter), Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, (nodal axis), maybe Mars

(Jupiter and Nodal axis is my addition, they are slow moviing enough to be real important).


And then you should have it.


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posted August 07, 2014 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

youīre very right.
I think it is important to differentiate about the DEVELOPMENT/ TIMEPERIOD (Which of course can be seen in advance) and the CURRENT THEME, however a year is still a broad stretch I think.

And about what I wrote above, it is pretty mucha summary of what I learned from Noel Tyl`s books and some others.

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posted August 07, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for my own first meeting with mr Sag:


my background arcs
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sa Venus 8 n Sun 0.45 a
(8 means 8th harmonic; it is more subtle than the 4th harmonics, but still interesting)

sa Venus 8 n Mercury 0.08 s
- this brought my 5th house ruler in subtle contact with my 7th house ruler


sa Mars= n Pluto 0.08 s
now this one is intersting; a square actually. It could have been a very turmoiled, violent time even. Mars-Pluto is no joke!
(when I was having Tr Pluto on my Mars, my grandfather died - Mars rules my 4th house).

anyway here it is Mars being brought to Pluto.
The 4th house ruler to the ruler of my 11th and 12th house. Not even sure how that applies. lol

But from the first meeting he felt so familiar like meeting a family member (4th house?) that I had not seen a loooong time, and kind of forgot (12th house?) and actually I STILL feel that foggy feeling, that nagging thought of: "Where have we met before? Why are you so familiar? And why does it feel like no time has passed since we last met?" Irrational feelings, as we probably never met before (though well, thre are two occasions from my childhood and early 20`s that come to mind, but so foggy. I can`t quite grasp it.

But anyway Mars=Pluto surely seems a strange "love-direction". lol
But it most definitely was a transformative time. Yes.
A push to digging up the old wounds of the past (12th house ruler) and concerns about loveability (11th house ruler).

Of course Mars-Pluto also indicates the right time for a complete make over, passions, a thrust to full blown transformation.
Something died during this time, most definitely, but not physically, it wsa the death of a lot of ideas and concepts I had built around myself, and like always Mars-Pluto burnt everything to ashes that was not "genuine", not real, not true.
Phoenix and the whole shebang.

sa SAturn 8th n Venus 0.06 a
On the positive side it shows the seriousness of this timeframe for me. Restructuring the image I had of my own feminity as well as how I express love (Venus rules 5th house).
With Saturn in the brew my first response, well after the shock of meeting him subsided a little, was to withdraw.
A little rejection-scenario going on. And I hate to admit it, but probably it was me who did the actual "rejecting" or rather denial, refusting to let it happen.
I also remember how meeting him,d espite him being nothing but sweet and nice and welcoming . always always always when we talked, he was ALWAYS responding just sweetly and friendly and warmly to me - yet I couldnīt see it.
Between the reality of his friendliness and me pereiving it as such, was a whole block of negative experiences in my past I had never really healed as it turned out. Just pushed them aside and refused to "go there again", which led to me isolate myself and if someone wuold not "get" it, that I am a hermit, an eremite, and well placed in my ivory tower, well I would do the rejecting (even just passively through defensiveness) before the other person could. I usually did not even WAIT or take the risk to see IF I would be rejected. It always seemed like a given.

Sound like Saturn=Venus to you?
Well, one manifestation at least.
Oh SAturn rules my 2nd house, so of course issues about self worth, affecting my ability to express my true feelings (Venus rules 5th house).


Whole can of worms during that time. lol

Sa Uranus= n Mars 0.14 s (conjunction as a matter of fact)

Yeah, well that sums it up I suppose. lol
The bizarre sudden meeting and communication, me just acting crazy. Uranus rules my 3rd house of communications. lol

While it was not yet in orb, it would come into orb over the next year - and that is sa Sun entering Aquarius and squaring n Uranus.

so sa Sun= n Uranus
at the time of meeting still at an orb of 1°22

(it would actually be exact the year after that when I was first travelling to London to see Jude Law on stage. lol)


Interesting to see though that at the time of this first meeting i had two directions involving Mars, and of the big guys Uranus and Pluto. lol

This is also interesting as Mars is the apex planet of my Hammer of Chiron to Vertex, Eros, Sun/Moon-mp. It seems to always be triggered during markposts in my life.usually by a lunar ecclipse actually.


As a matter of fact 3 months before we actually met and talked to each other, I had been on a concert, where I saw him, then deciding to get tickets for that musical after which the first meeting happened.

the first concert, which put the whole thing into motion, happened between a lunar and a solar ecclipse.

The lunar ecclipse was on 17 Aquarius, conjunct my n Moon on 17 Aquarius
the lunar one happened on 1 Virgo, conjunct his n NN on 1 Virgo.


I suppose the universe did not leave me a choice, did it?

other direcitons

my sa Juno= n Vertex 0°32 a


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his directions at our first meeting
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sa Moon = n Juno 0.02 a (opp)

sa Sun = n Venus 0.00 (conjunction)
- this one actually shocked me, cause it was PEAKING the night we met. We met on the only day/ night it was precise like that. Whoa.

So we both were having a Sun-Venus-direction, though his was actually stronger. Mine was just a semisquare. lol

for him it means that Sun had come to his intercepted 7th house ruler, Sun rules his 6th house, which makes sense in terms of how we met, it was at his workplace after all. lol

Can it be, that his Sun-Venus-direction was... me?
Unless of course he met someone else that night. lol Who know?

sa Sun 8th n Mars 0.10a
sa Sun 8th n Jupiter 0.45 s


Natally his Venus is exactly sesisquare his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction, so they are always activated simultaneously

Mars rules his intercepted 1st house and 8th house traditionally; Jupiter rules his 10th house and 1st house traditionally, and Venus rules his 2nd and 7th house.

And Sun, natally ruling 6th house and placed on MC, well the 6th and the 10th house havea lot to do with your social and public dealings and workplace. So yeah, meeting someone through work or while working probably was inscripted here at that time for him.


sa Mercury 8th uranus 0.03 a
another of these very exact trigger-aspects. lol

the ruler of his 7th house came to aspect his Uranus, which rules his 12th house.
We both had an activation of 12th house rulers; since we weren`t sick or on our deathbed, it must mean something else. lol


sa Venus = n Pallas (conj.) 0.33 s


sa Saturn= n Venus (square) 0.15 a
This one made me swallow hard.
So we both had this Saturn-Venus-thing going on. just his was a bit more challenging even than mine.

Saturn rules his 11th house (and is on his DESC natally), and Venus rules his 7th house and 2nd house.

I feel like I want to exclaim: "I`m sorry. I`m so SORRY. I didn`t mean it. Believe me." lol

The thing is his Saturn-Venus-square was building up, and had pretty much reached its peak (3 minutes before it), 2 months later, when we coincidentally passed each other, and well I messed up royally. LOL

I think I told the story before, and I am too embarassed to retell it now and confess to my silliness and stupidity again.
How out of insecurity and shyness, everything can get messed up. lol
And after that I decided to totally withdraw and put my sa Saturn 8th n Venus into manifestation. *sighs*
I could have dealt like a grown up with it, but instead I was pulling the "head in sand" routine.


Anyway, for him issues surrounding loveability (11th house) and how others respond to him, his audience (11th house is audience too) were affecting his feelings of selfworth (2nd house), which isn`t just as strong anyway (through the suquare to Pluto natally), and maybe also relating to others in general (th house ruler).

sa Saturn 8th Mars 0.14 s


ASC and or DESC 8th Mercury 0.23 s
Mercury ruling his 4th, 3rd and 7th house


ASC DESC 8th Jupiter 0.22 a


IC = Juno 0.12 a (conj.)


Vertex = Juno (0.00)
This was the second aspect that was peaking of him THAT VERY DAY.

So I coincidentally met him on the day when his Sun=Venus and Vertex= Juno were at its peak. Interesting.

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summary without many words


my directions
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sa Venus 8th n Sun 0.45a
sa Venus 8th n Mercury 0.08 s
sa Mars = n Pluto 0.08 s
sa Saturn 8th n Venus 0.06 a
sa Uranus = n Mars 0.14 s
sa Juno = n Vertex 0.32 a

his directions
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sa Moon= n Juno 0.02 a
sa Sun = n Venus 0.00
sa Sun 8th n Mars 0.10a

sa Mercury 8th n Uranus 0.03 a
sa Saturn = n Venus 0.15a
sa Saturn 8th n Mars 0.14 s
sa ASC 8th n Mercury 0.23 s
sa ASC 8th n Jupiter 0.22 a
sa IC = Juno 0.12 a
sa Vertex = n Juno 0.00

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as for the 8th harmonic aspects between our solar arcs and natals
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his sa Mercury square my n Pluto 0.44 a
his sa Mars conjunct my n Pluto 0.58 s
his sa Jupiter conjunct my n Pluto 0.02 s

his sa Sun semisquare my n Jupiter 0.15a
his sa Venus sesisqurae my n Pluto 0.48s
his sa Saturn semisquare my n NN 0.30 s
his a Pluto semisquare my n Venus 0.46a
his sa Pluto semisquare my n MC 0.15 s
his sa ASC sesisquare my n Neptune 0.20a
his sa ASC sesisquare my n NN 0.33 a


of course the 8th harmonic aspects are more subtle.

anyway it means apparently that

his sa Pluto = my n Venus/MC-mp

my sa Moon square his n Neptune 0.42 s
my sa Juno opposite his n Pluto 0.21 a

my sa Venus semisquare his n ASC 0.27 a
my sa Mars semisquare his n Uranus 0.45 s
my sa Uranus semisquare his n Pluto 0.58 a
my sa Pluto semisquare his n Moon 0.30a
my sa Pluto semisquare his n MC 0.10a
my sa Pluto semisquare his n Vertex 0.22 a

my sa Pluto = his n Moon/VErtex = his n MC/Vertex


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