posted September 23, 2014 04:55 PM              

a first batch

Brangelina

her Sun/merc in his 7th
her Venus/Saturn in his 8th
her Pluto in his 10th
her Uranus in his 11th
her Neptune on his ASC (sec 5th)
her Moon/Mars/Jupiter in his sec 8th

his Sun in her 5th
his Moon/Venus/Merc/Mars in her 6th - not a love house
his Saturn in her 7th/8th, her sec 5th
his Jupiter in her sec 6th - very interesting - not a love house, nothing significant in
Virgo either
his Uranus/Pluto in her 2nd
his Neptune in her 4th (her Venus house)
prevalence of direct overlays, with his love houses more activated than hers

Joanne/Paul Newman

her Sun/Venus/Moon in his 2nd (IC in taurus) - in his interception..great placement!
her Uranus in his sec 5th
her Jupiter in his 5th
her Pluto in his 7th
her Neptune in his 8th
her Saturn in his 12th (Pisces intercepted - a double activation of the intercepetion) on

his ASC

his Sun in her 1st (her iC in Aries)
his moon/uranus in her 2nd - sec 5th
his mars in her 3rd - not a love house
his pluto on her dsc
his neptune in her 8th
his saturn in her 10th (her asc in cap)
his jupiter in her 12th - not a love house
and on her ASC
his Venus/Merc on her ASC (well, of course, the 1st is a major attraction/marital/ love

house in general)

mixed, his houses more activated than hers

Linda/Paul

her sun/neptune in his 1st - sec 8th
her merc/moon/venus in his 2nd (his venus house)
her moon in his 3rd - mc in gem (their professional connection)
her mars in his 8th
her uranus/saturn/jupiter in his 9th (his IC in sag)
jupiter on mc
her pluto in his 11th-sec 5th

his sun/jupiter/merc in her 8th
his mars/pluto in her 9th
his moon on her mc
his neptune in her 11th (her IC in aqua)
his venus/uranus/saturn in her 7th

mixed, more direct for her

Elizabeth/Robert Browning

her sun/mars/mercury in his 2nd - sec 5th, also intercepted
and in his 3rd, along with venus/pluto - his sec 7th

impressive! an overall of 5 planets in his sec 7th out of which 3 are also in his sec 5th

her moon in his 9th (his asc in sag)
her uranus/saturn in his 10th
her neptune in his 12th
her jupiter in his 1st

his sun/merc in her 8th
his mars in her 9th (her IC in sag)
his venus/jupiter in her 10th, her interception! directly and indirectly; she has

cancer/cap interception, his venus/jupiter are in cancer
his uranus in her 2nd/3rd (her Mc in gem) - their poetic connection
his neptune in her 3rd
his saturn in her 4th
his pluto in her 6th
his moon in her 7th

almost half of his planets activate her 9th house...interesting

secondary for him, but very strong, more direct for her, but not with a love house
preponderence for her - although sun in 8th and moon in 7th are strong enough
they strongly and mutually activate their interceptions

I find the IC connections in all these examples quite intriguing.

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posted September 23, 2014 05:52 PM            

It works with symbolism matches, and house ruler synastry too.

posted September 23, 2014 06:09 PM              

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
It's important to keep in mind the secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses can work with more then just overlays.

It works with symbolism matches, and house ruler synastry too.

My secondary 7th house is my 3rd house... Aquarius ruled by Uranus in Scorpio. I most definitely feel an attraction to those two signs. Especially if they also have lots of Aries or Sagittarius in their chart (from my primary 5th and 7th houses. Aries on the 5th, and Jupiter in the 7th).

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Yes, indeed; I was just looking at the direct overlays, to see how balanced they are with each other and what is the theme. For example Linda Paul also have a strong professional theme, Liz and Robert Browning a poetry/learning/philosophy theme. Only 4 examples, more to come.

posted September 23, 2014 07:22 PM            

A worthwhile study would be to compare those synastries in which secondary houses are dominant, versus what other attractive markers and patterns are active.

For example, how and why Gemini is featured in my relationships is curious. it could be my secondary fifth activated -- or the fact that I have a 3H lunar-based stellium, including EROS and LILITH. My MARS is also 3H.

Let's look at the other predominant pattern. Sagittarius -- especially mid-Sagittarius. Sometimes I think it's my VALENTINE at 15º SAG taking control of matters there; sure, I have a 1H JUPITER, too, which is sextile my MOON, 1º30. And nothin' but my 9H CHIRON. OH. My DSC-R is SAG NEP. 20º. Maybe that's enough.

So, taking the secondary rundown, we've got:
12H in LEO
10H in GEM
1H in VIR.

posted September 23, 2014 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
No, not really. According to that theory i should have been attracted to those who put their planets in my 12th (secondary DSC), 10th (secondary 5th) or 1st (secondary 8th). While it may be somewhat true with 1st house, but i think it is just because the first house really is also about attraction - you notice those people, never the less. But unless there are planets in my main romance houses OR the rulers of those houses receive multiple aspects from someone, i won't be as attracted.

Interestingly, i do not feel 5th house attraction on its own. For me there is no need to activate my 5th house ruler, it's Saturn. My type of ideal love would be 8th house, 7th house.

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Sag rising so secondary 7th house is the 3rd which is in aquarius and I have BML there which is part of a love grandcross and opposes my venus and mars squares my psyche and chariklo.

posted September 23, 2014 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

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This theory fits with me. I have sag rising and 3rd cups in aquarius. My BML is in the 3rd and always gets activated with important love rel. and is part of a grandcross.

In addition Uranus which rules my 3rd is an imporant theme in relationships always...

Composite with my husband Uranus is in scorpio at 29 deg conjunct very tightly our MC opposing Chiron and this opposition squares our intercepted venus forming a tsquare, making venus the release point of the tsquare.

With my Ex uranus was part of the release point of a composite YOD with chiron at the apex and this opposition squared atropos/regulus forming a tsquare.

Natally uranus conjuncts my chart ruler Jupiter and this conjunction is my strongest aspect in my chart. My ex has sun conjunct Uranus super tightly and my husband has mars/uranus conjunct DC in scorpio super tightly.

posted September 23, 2014 08:35 PM            

Secondary 5H = 3H Aries (anaretic degree)
Secondary 7H = 5H Gemini
Secondary 8H = 6H Cancer

All of them are empty of any planets. As for asteroids/other objects, my CHIRON sits in the 3H, in Taurus. CERES sits in the 6H, in Cancer.

I'm not attracted to Gemini or Cancer in a relationship sense. I have many Cancers in my life though. Both my parents are Cancers.

Arians are attractive, but I attribute that to having a Sag SUN and Leo DC - elemental affinity, not to mention a Libra MOON. I like Aries MOON people, in general (my favorite nephew & KD). So 5H = kids and romantic attractiveness, so that makes some sense.

posted September 23, 2014 10:08 PM            

Secondary 5th=1H Sag (My ex Mars at GC conjuncts my Neptune in the First at CG, Neptune/vertex/IC conjunct almost exact my SN in the first in Sag)

Secondary 7th=3H Aquarius (His NN opposes exact my AV in the 3rd, My BML trines his venus/pluto tightly and my NN forming a grand trine)

Secondary 8th=4H Pisces (My IC conjuncts his DC, His moon conjuncts my IC and my moon his DC; our moons conjunct in pisces by 5 orbs, neptune rules his DC and my IC).

My ex:

Secondary 5th=10H Gemini (My NN conjuncts almost exact his MC)

Secondary 7th=12H Leo (My venus/Mars/Karma/Fortuna fall in his 12th and trine his mars and sextiles his venus)

Secondary 8th=1H Virgo (His AC conjuncts my mercury almost exact which rules my 7th)

My Husband:
Secondary 5th=3H Cancer (He has Nessus in the 3rd which my venus/karma/apophis in Leo semisextiles)

Secondary 7th=8H Sagittarius (His Neptune conjuncts almost exact my SN which falls in my secondary 5th)

Secondary 8th=9H Capricorn (empty 9th house)

My husband has mars/uranus conjunct his DC which squares my venus and mars and his venus. His AC squares my venus and mars. His neptune in the 8th conjuncts my SN almost exact.In his case the secondaries are less active.

In my case I identify a lot more with my secondary houses as far as what I am attracted to. I think is bc I have important planets and points falling in my secondary houses.

I think that what is important is to look at secondary if there is not much action going on with the standard houses and VICE VERSA. I think both can play a very significant role and a nice combination of both types playing out in synastry is probably ideal.

Also just looking at the rulers of the 5th,7th and 8th is very telling too.

posted September 24, 2014 01:22 PM              

I wanted to check this kind of connection in my synastry, Lotis, and this is what I found:

my Sun (7th ruler) in his 12th (sec 7th) opp his Sun (11th, sec 5th)
sextile his Moon (MC ruler)

his Sun in my 2nd (my IC in Taurus and 4th is my sec 7th) trine my Saturn (ASC ruler)

my Moon (7th ruler) in his 11th (sec 5th) square his Moon (MC) trine his Neptune (DSC ruler)

his Moon (MC) on my MC trine my Saturn and my Jupiter (11rh, 2nd, NN ruler)

my Venus in his 12th (sec 7th) square his Mars (8th ruler) and Neptune (7th ruler) - also, he has most of his 7th in Aries, DSC at 28 Pisces, so I guess both 12th and 1st are his sec 7th. Opp Jupiter (IC, NN, Sun ruler)

his Venus in my 1st (interception) trine my 8th house stellium: Mars, Pluto (MC ruler) and Mercury (5th, 8th ruler) sextile my Neptune (2nd ruler; as I was saying, 4th in Taurus is my sec 7th)

my Mars on his ASC, so also connected to his sec. 7th, in a way, conj Pluto (3rd ruler; his Mars in Gem, his Moon in Scorp) Square Saturn (IC/5th ruler, 5th in Aqua)

his Mars in my 4th/5th (so in both 5th and sec 7th) square my Venus, opp Neptune (2nd ruler) square Jupiter (11th, NN ruler) trine Mars, Pluto (MC ruler) and Mercury (5th, 8th ruler)

it's interesting, many connections to my 2nd house, the house of my IC, and 4th is my sec 7th

my 5th/8th ruler Mercury in his 1st, conj Pluto, trine his Venus, his Mars (8th ruler), sextile Neptune (his 7th ruler)

my 7th ruler Moon and Sun - above

his 5th ruler Uranus in my 9th )also sec 11th) conj my Uranus (ASC ruler) - in this case there are no other Ptolemaic aspects, but a Golden Yod with this Uranus and my Moon (quintile) and our Suns as the axis, and his Uranus septile my Venus
his 5th ruler Saturn in my 5th/6th (on the cusp), with 6th being my sec 8th

How do you interpret Saturn in the 5th overlay?

his 8th ruler Mars in my 4th/5th with the above connections

his 7th ruler Neptune in my 11th with the above connections
his 7th ruler Jupiter in my 1st with the above connections

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posted September 30, 2014 05:23 PM              

Marie/Pierre Curie

her sun/venus/mars/saturn in his 8th (his 8th in Scorp)
her merc in his 9th (his MC in Sag)
her Jupiter in his 12th (his ASC in pisces)
her Moon in his 1st, on ASC
her Neptune in his 1st, in his intercep.
her Pluto in is 2nd
her Uranus on his 5th cusp

his Saturn in her 7th, in her intercep.
his Sun/Uranus in her 4th (her DSC in Cancer)
his Mars/Jupiter in her 5th
his Jupiter on 6th cusp (her 8th in Virgo)
his Venus/Neptune in her 2nd (her IC in taurus)
his Merc/Pluto in her 3rd (her 5th in Gem)
his Moon in her 9th

Michael Douglas/Catherine Zeta Jones

his Sun/Neptune/Mars/Venus in her 9th (her ASC in Sag)
his Venus on her MC (she has intercepted 1st in cap)
his Moon in her 1st in her intercep. (she has IC in Aries)
his Saturn in her 7th in her intercep. (her MC in Libra)
his Merc/Jupiter/Pluto in her 8th (her 11th in Scorp)
his Uranus in her 6th

an overwhelming overlay in CZJ's 1st house, direct and indirect
it's safe to say he had a major impact on her interception

her Sun/Uranus/Merc/Jupiter in his 11th house (his IC in Aqua)
her Venus in his 10th
her Neptune in his 1st
her Moon in his 5th (his 8th in Leo)
her Saturn in his 6th
her Mars in his 2nd (his DSC in Taurus)

most overlays for MD don't fall in his love houses

Jennifer Garner/Ben Affleck

her Sun, Saturn, neptune in his intercepetion (the house, not the sign)
her Sun/Saturn in his 11th
her Venus/Mars/Moon/Saturn in his 12th (his MC in Pisces, his DSc in Cap)
her Pluto/Uranus in his 4th (his ASC in Cancer)
her Neptune/Jupiter in his 6th (his IC in Virgo)
hr Jupiter on his DSc

his Moon in her intercep. in her 7th and they have the same interception
his Neptune in her 8th
his Jupiter in her 9th (her 8th in Sag)
his saturn in her 2nd (Taurus intercept in her 1st)
his Venus in her 3rd
his Merc in her 4th (her IC in Cancer)
his Sun/Mars in her 5th in leo
his Pluto/Uranus in her 6th

Already from these few examples, primary and secondary angular houses feature as strongly as primary/secondary 5th and 8th.