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mir
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posted June 03, 2016 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit playing with transits for the moment we got those kittens (him one day before me).. so I was thinking, there must be some common astrological ground for it.

This is what I can find, also related to our Jupiter/Pallas conjunction;

My Jupiter 26'39 scorp
His Pallas 27'49 scorp

Transit Mars at that moment: 29'14 SCORP (retro)

My Venus 29'53 Cancer
His Venus 28'45 Pisces

Composite Venus 29'18 Taurus
Composite Vertex 28'31 Aqua
Composite Lilith (h21) 29'01 Leo

Soooo Transit RETRO Mars at 29'14 scorp took this to an interesting level and kept us "viable" so to speak.

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posted June 03, 2016 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mir: Nice story about the kitties! And thank you for that info re: Pallas-Jupiter... I've the trine, wide though: Jupiter 2 Gemini Pallas 7 Aqua. By converse progression my retrograde Jupiter is approaching the exact trine though! I also have Pallas trine Vertex (5 Gemini).. more exact...

I do resonate with what you've shared re Pallas-Jupiter. Happy aspect, helps with lots of things...

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posted June 03, 2016 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yea indeed.. new food. But great idea to look in the CONVERSED realm too!

HOly..

wow.. his progressed Sun (this is just the forward realm still lol); 29'12 Taurus! (HE was the one who initiated the entire kitten thing after all - without knowing I would have one too a day after)

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posted June 03, 2016 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOW my goshh.. this can't be possible. Progressed composites are one big *MIRACLE~!* or wel in fact, our UNIVERSE *IS*!

ATTENTION!

Coincidentally (verrry / it was not even my intention to look at it) I got the progressed composite of ME and KITTEN (born 11-4-'16) in front of me; (the moment I first saw and took her to be exact)

Progressed compo SUN: 6'32 Cancer
Progressed compo MOON: 6'37 Cancer
Progressed compo Mercury: 6'37 Cancer

^ an exact NEW MOON~!!

Good heaven..

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posted June 03, 2016 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwwee

Pet synastry is almost invariably the awesomest, I've been noticing. Soooo sweet.

curious what's going on with your 6th house right meow?

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posted June 03, 2016 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ hm.. nothing special right meow for what I see. But it's a pity that I don't know her exact TOB (the owner said it all began at 9 pm upstairs while he was downstairs).. so it has to be around that time. Nothing transit wise either to my natal.

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posted June 04, 2016 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at his' chart with those/his kittens.. it's interesting to see he also has an upcoming progressed composite New Moon, but it's appling by 10 degrees. A bit wide to be so amazed.

BUT.. the progressed composite Moon is at 0'39 Taurus conjunct his natal Sun at 0'59 Taurus the moment he got them!

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I just notice something interesting.
Above I said they have an applying New Moon by 10 deg in their progressed composite.
THIS;
- Sun 10'49 Taurus
- Moon 0'23 Taurus

(^ applying by 10'26)

But now look at their NATAL-composite;

- Sun 26'39 Aries
- Moon 16'23 Aries

(^ applying by 10'16)

!!

I have thought this before; repeating angles might be significant! NO: they HAVE to be signifant, ofcourse how could I deny them : same phase angles!

I said above 0'23 Taurus (their progressed Moon) but the other kitten he got some days later... so might even be EXACT (I don't know the exact day) by 10'16 also! I'm amazzzzzed.


TIP: look at the phase angle between the Sun and Moon in your (natal) Composite. See when this one is repeated in the Progressed Composite! This marks a significant Event/change/transformation.

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posted June 04, 2016 06:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,

I love your enthusiasm and the kitten-story.

Did I understood it right, you did an EVC with the progressed composite of the two and you and the event?


I did that thing just now with the natal composite, it was very interesting.


But back on topic, I really love Pallas in synastry, composite or natal. Not because any romantic thing (I doubt that she is inherently romantic UNLESS she is connected to romantic planets or asteroids, and then I think sh emight be more indicative of bringing the romantic potential or whatever it is to AWARENESS).


That is why I like her, the pattern recognition thing, that combines intellectual abilities with intuitive skills and possibly some spiritual insights as well.


Interestingly Tr Pallas is right now transiting my natal Pholus exact, and headed towards my natal Ceres (3 degrees applying) and natal Jupiter (5 degrees applying). So this post was very relevant for my nearer future.

Yun,

I have Pallas natally in a tight minor triangle with Pluto and Neptune-NN.
Which results in a few midpoint pictures obviously

Neptune conjunct Pluto/Pallas 0°49
Node conjunct Pluto/Pallas 1°02


And Pallas herself:

Pallas conjunct Venus/Jupiter 0°30

And this I found interesting as well, as they are all in Aquarius equidistant from each other (7 degrees off each other each)


Moon conjunct BML (mean)/ Pallas 0°17
Moon conjunct Psyche/Pallas 0°30


Especially the last one I find interesting, considering Mr Sag has a 1 degree Pallas-Psyche-conjunction in his chart falling within 0-1 degrees of my own Psyche.

Not very romantic, but it`s intriguing and has a bit to do with the trying to figure out what "this" is I guess.


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posted June 04, 2016 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir:

natal composite has a New-Moon-phase;
angle: +26°25


Well this was repeated actually a year after we first saw each other, and a year before we had our real first meeting, so pretty much at the middle of these two events, but as far as I remember we did not cross paths back then.

Of course that means until our moon phase angle repeats there will be some more years, however what I noticed was that we are going to have a complimentary phase coming up.

Not the New Moon, but the Full Moon

The exact progressed full Moon would happen in january 2019.

But our natal lunar phase is not an exact New Moon but a New Moon + 25 degrees, so that Full Moon sort of repeating that angle: Full Moon + 25 degrees would happen

on 7th february 2021 (the day the transiting Sun is always exact conjunct my natal Moon).

at that time our pr composite ASC will be at 29 Pisces, obviously heading into a new cycle.

his pASC will be conjunct natal composite Jupiter exact
my pASC will just have passed over natal composite Venus

and these two are biquintile, part of a Golden Yod consisting of Jupiter in 5th (conj. his pASC) quintile Saturn in 7th, and biquintile Venus in 12th (conj. my pASC).


Additionally at that time

pc Venus 10°08 Pisces
pc Mars 11°21 Scorpio

which is sort of connected to

my n Jupiter 11°12 Pisces
his n Mars 11°05 Virgo
his n Jupiter 10°09 Virgo


his pMoon at the time: 10°34 Cancer
falling onto the midpoint of that building composite Venus-Mars-trine, not sure this is anything, but thought it was intriguing, because the midpoint of pc Venus/Mars will be on 10°44 Capricorn, so the orb to his Moon will be just 10 minutes.

At that time

pc Vertex 29°28 Virgo
pc DESC 29°13 Virgo

and the closest direct midpoint pictures

MC = ASC/Vertex 0°00
MC = Venus/Node 0°02

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posted June 04, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poupoupidou:
Hi, I don't know where you read this, but Pallas does not play a huge part in synastry, unless there is some unresolved daughter-father issues in the way of a good relationship with a potential partner...


I don't know how reliable it is, or whether it's been replicated, but there is at least one study that suggests Pallas does tend to figure rather prominently in the synastry of married couples:
http://www.astroinvestigators.com/marriageframe.htm

For whatever it's worth, we don't have many conjunctions, but I do have an exact Pallas-Jupiter conjunction at 23 Virgo with my partner of 3 years (or 25 years, depending upon how you want to look at it).

I'm not going to say I've never had Daddy issues (what girl doesn't?), but they are certainly as resolved as they are ever going to be (and were when we got together). I will say it is the most equal and/or balanced I've ever had with a man.

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posted June 04, 2016 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Did I understood it right, you did an EVC with the progressed composite of the two and you and the event?

O Ceri no, I just plain and simple meant the good old Progressed Composite (between me & kit) the moment we got together and it all started between us (lol) .. u know, the one having a New Moon once in the 28 years between 2 living beings! Wow.. I'm still speechless about it... ofcourse, in her (kit) case the only thing that had moved a bit in her progressed chart was pMoon as she's just 7 weeks on this earth plane. But that taken with my current progressed chart... magnefique~! (the outcome of an EXACT New Moon)


BUT.. I thought; Okay, let's do it your way! ;D
Never ever did it.. really.

So, I made an EVC with our (kit & me) progressed composite and the event (our coming-together / very start of-us / 1st meeting - all in one). And then I see this huh? Does this really work.. wow, it seems it does! WOW (I have to think about this in depth later);

- Venus 19'02 Gem
- Mars 19'48 Sag
- Pluto 20:13 Sag

Wow ! ^

It becomes even more bizar when looking at my and Mr Taurus' regular Composite (he was with me that moment me & kit came together):
Our Compo Sun 19'12 Gem
Our Compo Nept 19'09 Sag

Meow!!


(and yes that's exactly what I meant with that same lunar phase angle / your 2nd post)

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posted June 04, 2016 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great article Delilah.

I had Pallas trine Pallas with my ex-soulmate, less than 2°. We had some telepathy. One night I woke up around 3 am and started thinking of him intensely. The phone rang and it was him, yawning and barely able to talk. I told him I had just been thinking of him and he said, "I know. That's why I called."

My husband's Pallas forms a fixed grand cross with my rectified ASC, Uranus, and Mercury. (If my ASC is wrong, it's just a t-square.) His Pallas is more or less conjunct my ex's moon.

My Pallas is almost exactly conjunct my dad's Jupiter, 0.32° orb, and widely opposes my husband's Jupiter, 4.04°.

My father's Pallas-Saturn @ 5 Sag was exactly conjunct my composite sun with him.

My Venus 6 Sag, husband's Saturn 7 Sag.

Composite Pallas with my husband @ 15 Aries, tightly conjunct my Jupiter/draconic Venus, less than 1°. Transiting Pallas @ 16 Aries when we got married.

Our composite ASC-Mars-Juno right on ex's Pallas.

Composite Pallas with my father exactly opposing my Saturn.

Yeah talk about patterning...

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posted June 04, 2016 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So weird.

Husband's draconic Pallas @ 20 Virgo exactly on my ex's tropical sun. On my Juno.

My draconic Pallas @ 4 Leo conjunct my father's draconic sun-Mars @ 3-4 Leo. Also conjunct his 6 Leo moon, husband's 7 Leo sun.

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posted June 04, 2016 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh.. my draconic Pallas is trine D.'s draconic Pallas; this forms a grand trine with my draconic Vertex-Jupiter..

That explains some things! Was seriously questioning the comparative lack of Pallas stuff given our connection...

Noticed our draconic ascendants are trine too just now, which is neat

Love this thread...

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posted June 04, 2016 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^

Edit ~ I could just go on and on with draconics....my draconic ASC conjunct ex's draconic Pallas within a degree.

Edit #2

With another ex...WOW

His draconic Pallas in Leo conjunct his tropical sun on my ASC, trine his tropical Pallas, part of a Grand Sextile we had in synastry. Explains a lot.

Edit #3

Pallas sextile Pallas with my college boyfriend.

#4

23 Gemini, my mother's Pallas, on her mother's sun
22 Gemini, father's DSC
22 Gemini, her draconic Mars
24 Leo, her sun
24 Cap, her Mars (apex of yod with Pallas & sun)
22 Cap, her draconic sun

24 Libra, my dad's sun

12 Virgo, my mom's EVC Pallas on their wedding day
14 Virgo, their composite Pallas

3 Sag, my dad's EVC Pallas on their wedding day
2 Sag, transiting Pallas on their wedding day

Then, my oldest brother's Pallas @ 21 Sag on my dad's SN @ 20 Sag & ASC @ 22 Sag.
My brother's NN @ 23 Gemini is on my mom's Pallas/dad's DSC.

My Vertex 23 Sag if my chart is right. Square my Pallas.

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posted June 05, 2016 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But our natal lunar phase is not an exact New Moon but a New Moon + 25 degrees, so that Full Moon sort of repeating that angle: Full Moon + 25 degrees would happen

on 7th february 2021 (the day the transiting Sun is always exact conjunct my natal Moon).


Yesss.. keep that ^ in mind too~! The exact opposing phase. Funnily enough I was thinking yesterday about all the significant progressed composite lunar phase placements, like;

- the conjunction / opposition
- the repeating same phase angle and its opposing counterpart

yea it's worth to have a focus on the latter too.

After all, also Orange got her new home when her progressed compo lunar phase was exactly opposed her natal one (this as a personal example)

I met Mr Taurus when our progressed compo lunar phase was 9-10 degrees past the LQ - that's exactly what he has in natal while I have the exact opposing phase (9-10 past the FQ). In our regular Compo this is/becomes 9-10 past the Full Moon. So a square here measured from our regular compo lunar phase.

And again: Mr Taurus embraced his kittens when he shared with them (progressed compo wise) an exact lunar phase return (so: same phase angle as what they already have in their regular compo).


-- Well this was repeated actually a year after we first saw each other, and a year before we had our real first meeting, so pretty much at the middle of these two events, but as far as I remember we did not cross paths back then.--

Suppose... making a compo/davison of those 2 events, might reach too far but u never know with our universe.

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So checking if the progressed composite repeats natal lunar phases? Never done that, but it`s worth checking I guess.


I just checked for my own complementary lunar phase in my individual progressions.
Natally I have a crescent Moon +51°10 (of course it means my Sun and Moon are septile each other


So the complementing phase would be the dissemanating and the next one coming up in my progressed chart will take place on 21st december 2018, just 4 days after my Solar Return that year. lol

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I made by accident a progressed Davison of our charts, and see currently pr Moon had been opposing our natal Davison Sun. lol

this one peaked on 8th may, just a week prior our last meeting, which sort of stood out.

(on 18th june the phase of pr Davison to natal Davison will be in the exact opposng phase of his natal, not sure however how much the connection from progressed to natal counts)


The progressed full moon will follow on 18th january 2019
and since he has natally a New Moon +1°41, shortly after that, it will be in the opposing phase of his own natal lunar phase.


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posted June 05, 2016 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa. Speaking of draconics, I just decided to make a biwheel of our draconics and our Davison chart and

my draconic Jupiter conjunct Davison Pallas

my draconic Pallas conjunct Davison Jupiter

both within 1.5 degrees

!!!!

That's somethin'! Actually the draconic-Davison stuff is completely flabbergasting and awesome all around, angle conjunctions, davison vertex conjunct his draconic Sun.. and more! much more actually... Davison Saturn conjunct my draconic Sun *and his tropical Jupiter... other stuff... lots of stuff...

The double whammy jupiter pallas really jumped out at me though because of this thread. It really does go a ways to explaining my eternal--realistic-- optimism about this relationship i think...

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posted June 05, 2016 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That is amazing!!

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posted June 05, 2016 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of you now when checking draconics and am grateful for your observing them by transit etc. Because it gives me permission somehow to do the same and it is revelatory!

You know it. Like, bam.

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posted August 18, 2018 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting! I have Pallas conjunct both my Venus and Psyche in Scorpio. A potential business partner (& maybe more - haha) has his Pallas conjunct his Mars in Libra (and also exactly conjunct my Sun/Pluto.) Hmmm....

I think my Pallas trines his Moon. Funny that my natal Pallas is conjunct my female planet and his is conjunct his male planet. I have no idea what it means but even though we have mutual Mars/Sun conjunctions (and a composite with Mars conj Sun opposite Moon conj Venus!!)it does seem balanced between us. We both are in Real Estate and like to build/design homes!! He just showed me today 2 homes that he is building and I liked them both a lot - I liked his taste and what he was creating.... Maybe we can design together??

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posted August 18, 2018 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my two alltime greatest lovers has Pallas Athena conjunct my natal 9H Aries Mercury. We certainly had clear communications, to the point of telepathic Tantra that reached halfway around the world.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm not sure yet why Pallas figures strongly in marriages, but it does. Perhaps because Pallas is a regulator, a potential symbol for "official" relationships.
Sun/Pallas is not necessarily the only marker for Pallas in marriages, there's also Pallas on angles, Pallas DWs, and Pallas somehow angular (focal) in synastry or composites.


Hi there! This is my 1st attempt at commenting lol
My question is "What would Pluto trine Pallas double-whammy in synastry mean?"
I have this with my Great Grandfather..

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posted November 14, 2021 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithbabe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what a double whammy between Pallas and DNA (55555) would indicate?

My Pallas conjunct his DNA
His Pallas conjunct my DNA

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