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Topic: Sun square Pluto Synastry
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 25, 2014 01:24 PM
Hi Everyone,Personal experiences only. 1- Could you share how this aspect changed you? 2- Where you Sun or Pluto? 3- Are you still friends? 4- Did the Sun avoided the Pluto at first out of some sort of fear? Thanks...! IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1991 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted September 25, 2014 10:00 PM
I'm curious about this aspect as well, and Pluto/personal planet hard aspects in general. If it's mixed in with other 'nice' synastry maybe it's more tolerable then when mixed with a synastry that is already pretty harsh anyway.Pluto aspects tend to make you want to analyze the something deeply from a psychological perspective, and squares are dynamic aspects that promote change. The aspect has the potential to be pretty invasive and destructive, but I like to think that every aspect has a constructive side to it as well. The worst outcome is some type of obsessive power struggle, and the best outcome is positive change inspired by insight and investigation.
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 26, 2014 01:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: I'm curious about this aspect as well, and Pluto/personal planet hard aspects in general. If it's mixed in with other 'nice' synastry maybe it's more tolerable then when mixed with a synastry that is already pretty harsh anyway.Pluto aspects tend to make you want to analyze the something deeply from a psychological perspective, and squares are dynamic aspects that promote change. The aspect has the potential to be pretty invasive and destructive, but I like to think that every aspect has a constructive side to it as well. The worst outcome is some type of obsessive power struggle, and the best outcome is positive change inspired by insight and investigation.
I have twelve pluto inter- aspects :S
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3210 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 26, 2014 04:57 AM
Well, I don't like Cap nor Cancer Suns so that's that. IP: Logged |
libran_dream Knowflake Posts: 587 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 26, 2014 05:14 AM
I have it, it's exact. My Sun, his Pluto. The other way in an opposition, also exact - my Pluto, his Sun.1 - Tremendously. From the core. There was no turning back. 2 - Sun in the square. Pluto in the opposition. 3 - Yes. He'll never be out of my life. It's a "till death" kind of thing. 4 - Yes. Yes, so much. I was very afraid of him. Even after a decade of knowing him and seriously considering him for the role of legally wedded Mr. libran_dream, there is still fear on my side. So that's certainly very unhealthy. Any more questions, just ask! IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 26, 2014 04:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by libran_dream: I have it, it's exact. My Sun, his Pluto. The other way in an opposition, also exact - my Pluto, his Sun.1 - Tremendously. From the core. There was no turning back. 2 - Sun in the square. Pluto in the opposition. 3 - Yes. He'll never be out of my life. It's a "till death" kind of thing. 4 - Yes. Yes, so much. I was very afraid of him. Even after a decade of knowing him and seriously considering him for the role of legally wedded Mr. libran_dream, there is still fear on my side. So that's certainly very unhealthy. Any more questions, just ask!
- Why were you scared of him? - What sun sign is he? - How long took you to stop avoiding each other? - What is it about the Pluto that attracts - you? - Do you go back and forth between love and hate? - Is he manipulative with you? IP: Logged |
Marla123 Newflake Posts: 21 From: Germany/Colombia Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 26, 2014 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Hi Everyone,Personal experiences only. 1- Could you share how this aspect changed you? 2- Where you Sun or Pluto? 3- Are you still friends? 4- Did the Sun avoided the Pluto at first out of some sort of fear? Thanks...!
1. Hm, he gives me to think. See my thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000984.html But I canīt devide the one constellation from the other. What I did, when I saw this at the begin. I promised myself be very, very aware of myself - be honest to him and me about my intentions. But that seems to have a contradictory result - or possibly nothing has to do with the Pluto sun square. 2. I was Pluto squaring his sun and moon. He squares me with his Pluto my moon. 3. In my thread I talk of the Kind of relationship. Sometimes I thougt, when it was nice - possibly one day we could meet us with our Partners. But this was only in a short while. The contact is now broken. 4. NO, HE went to ME and WANTED inside-pluto-lookings. But he didnīt like it, but he didnīt stand away. Is like "Wash me, but donīt make me wet." I thought a lot of times of this aspect an it scares me. At the other side I wonder, because Manipulation with this aspect donīīt fit to me. Iīīm straight in my things. And I ask me the whole time, what this aspect can mean else. Greetings Marla IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 26, 2014 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Marla123: 1. Hm, he gives me to think. See my thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000984.html But I canīt devide the one constellation from the other. What I did, when I saw this at the begin. I promised myself be very, very aware of myself - be honest to him and me about my intentions. But that seems to have a contradictory result - or possibly nothing has to do with the Pluto sun square.2. I was Pluto squaring his sun and moon. He squares me with his Pluto my moon. 3. In my thread I talk of the Kind of relationship. Sometimes I thougt, when it was nice - possibly one day we could meet us with our Partners. But this was only in a short while. The contact is now broken. 4. no, HE went to ME and wanted inside-pluto-lookings. But he didnīt like it, but he didnīt stand away. Is like "Wash me, but donīt make me wet." I thought a lot of times of this aspect an it scares me. At the other side I wonder, because Manipulation with this aspect donīīt fit to me. Iīīm straight in my things. And I ask me the whole time, what this aspect can mean else. Greetings Marla
Eres de Colombia?
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Marla123 Newflake Posts: 21 From: Germany/Colombia Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 26, 2014 04:42 PM
Mi familia materna viene de alli IP: Logged |
ash20 Knowflake Posts: 808 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 26, 2014 04:47 PM
I have this in my natal so I can't really tell the difference in synastry. For me this aspect has to do with ego and pride which I think is what causes the power struggles.. but idk really IP: Logged |
libran_dream Knowflake Posts: 587 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 27, 2014 05:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: - Why were you scared of him? - What sun sign is he? - How long took you to stop avoiding each other? - What is it about the Pluto that attracts - you? - Do you go back and forth between love and hate? - Is he manipulative with you?
- That's a big question. I suppose partly because my feelings for him were totally new to me, partly because he seemed like someone that really could love me, partly because I was afraid he wouldn't respect my boundaries. And a lot of other things, part conscious, part unconscious. - Taurus, same as I. - I feel like we're still doing it. I know I am. - Hm, well there's the promise of something brand new, that is supposed to take you in a direction you're supposed to go, but are afraid of. There's a promise of conquering your fears, I guess. Wait, or do you mean what attracts me to him as an entire person? I'm talking just about the aspect here. - Yes. Yes. The extremes. - I think so, yes. I know I'm constantly on my guard. Maybe I'm projecting, it's hard to tell sometimes.IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 09:30 AM
Does he know astrology?IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 09:31 AM
Great info....!I really like this Leo Sun/Libra Moon. We have 11 Pluto inter aspects and some awesome aspects such as(I'm the first planet): Moon sextile Moon Asc conjunct Moon/Mars/Saturn/Pluto Sun trine Jupiter Venus conjunct Sun Sun/Mars trine Neptune Moon conjunct Neptune Venus trine Uranus Moon/Mars/Uranus/Mercury sextile Saturn Sun trine Lilith Pluto sextile Lilith Juno conjunct Moon DW I have never met someone so selfish and willing to use others for her own advantage. We both have Venus in Cancer but she has hers conjunct her NN so it seems like a Venus in Cap("I use"). There is a deep kindness but the Libra placements are so flaky and two face that we definitely don't trust each other. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 09:40 AM
Synastry Aspects: I don't have her TOB so disregard her angles.She - He IP: Logged |
libran_dream Knowflake Posts: 587 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 27, 2014 09:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Does he know astrology?
Little bit. Nowhere close to the level I use it on. quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Great info....!I really like this Leo sun/Libra moon woman. We have 11 Pluto inter aspects and some awesome aspects such(I'm the first planet): Moon sextile Moon Asc conjunct Moon/Mars/Saturn/Pluto Sun trine Jupiter Venus conjunct Sun Sun/Mars trine Neptune Moon conjunct Neptune Venus trine Uranus Moon/Mars/Uranus/Mercury sextile Saturn Sun trine Lilith Pluto sextile Lilith Juno conjunct Moon DW I have never met someone so selfish and willing to use others for her own advantage. We both have Venus in Cancer but she has hers conjunct her NN so it seems like a Venus in Cap("I use").
Can you post the synastry wheel? I can take a closer look, the list of aspects is a bit too dry, better to see how they operate within their environment. quote:
There is a deep kindness but the Libra placements are so flaky and two face that we definitely don't thrust each other.
Freudian slip? IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 09:48 AM
LOL... Mmmmm Maybe ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 09:53 AM
....... ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."IP: Logged |
libran_dream Knowflake Posts: 587 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 27, 2014 10:04 AM
Sorry, I can't read astrotheme, it's so clunky. Can you upload an astro.com synastry wheel? Maybe use asteroids, here's a list: 1221, 763, 433, 4386, 16, 1585, 447, 390, 3811, 875.IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by libran_dream: Sorry, I can't read astrotheme, it's so clunky. Can you upload an astro.com synastry wheel? Maybe use asteroids, here's a list: 1221, 763, 433, 4386, 16, 1585, 447, 390, 3811, 875.
Astrotheme is free...=) At least you get the idea how the chart looks. How did you get together? The whole story! ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
libran_dream Knowflake Posts: 587 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 27, 2014 10:13 AM
astro.com is totally free, don't worry!IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 670 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 27, 2014 01:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Virgo28: [B]Hi Everyone,Personal experiences only. 1- Could you share how this aspect changed you? He changed my appearance , made me lose weight which I did not have too, was skinny enough, made me more closed+ suspicious , did not like the fact I had a ton of friends, he broke me...is the only way I can describe it. 2- Where you Sun or Pluto? DW- it switched afterwards....got rid of him, cause I could not function around him. In fact moved to another city. 3- Are you still friends? Yes , but this happened 17 yrs ago....Pluto makes the other person disappear( literally)...like you went to Hades for vacation...Has anyone else noticed this Mine is in Libra and I do not see my cardinal pals for months at a time. 4) Not out of fear ( that's Saturn) it more like a knowing that this is going to be one painful/intense/complicated relationship....then its all in - OBSESSION - can't live without you, your my everything....then the manipulation/mind games start... It lasted 4 years..I think if we didn't have Pluto sq. Venus...we could of been fine. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 01:34 PM
So true!!Her Pluto conjuncts my Asc: I went from 190lbs to 163lbs 7% body fat - Best shape of my life. Her Pluto sextile my Moon: First time in my life that I feel emotionally attach to someone. I have sag moon conjunct Uranus. Her Pluto square my Venus: It feels like "I really want to destroy you, but I don't know why" <--- I keep her at bay since I have this natally. I can't tell how I have affected her life. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 670 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 27, 2014 01:55 PM
I have Pluto sq. Venus in natal too- its more like realizing that this is not good for you, so you have to let go...but after ages....!!! Not all bad , it gets better with age I think...its like your afraid to let anyone in. my current beau , is awesome we have a trine between the planets...its so easy to love him. No Pluto( I say this as relief, Pluto ain't for the faint heart) but tons of Saturn.
Are with your partner now??? IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 593 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by olgatheo: I have Pluto sq. Venus in natal too- its more like realizing that this is not good for you, so you have to let go...but after ages....!!! Not all bad , it gets better with age I think...its like your afraid to let anyone in. my current beau , is awesome we have a trine between the planets...its so easy to love him. No Pluto( I say this as relief, Pluto ain't for the faint heart) but tons of Saturn.
Are with your partner now???
Well... In my case, I'm not controlling, jealous, possessive, or manipulative but I attract people that are... Its funny to see how they go berserk and they don't know why. Do you find yourself in situation/relationships that you say "What the hell am I doing here???" Also every woman I meet is going through some sort of pluto transit. lol ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 670 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 27, 2014 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Well... In my case, I'm not controlling, jealous, possessive, or manipulative but I attract people that are... Its funny to see how they go berserk and they don't know why.Do you find yourself in situation/relationships that you say "What the hell I'm doing here???" Also every woman I meet is going through some sort of pluto transit. lol
First one - was the one I explained. Second one- no Pluto sq. Venus synastry but he moved to USA , so Pluto at work again... after 7 years been single...A Pluto transit to my Venus ( opposition ) this one appeared out of nowhere ! I do attract intense/difficult peeps in my life , But that's my job. I am a therapist. come to think of it , all my friends have Venus in Aries it opp. my Pluto , so I guess they get a bit obsessed This energy manifests some where....appearance/clothes/lifestyle/ beauty is imp. I have noticed this too. LOL yeah I think for men it's different , it makes them very appealing to women. Like a moth to a flame...That might explain why the women that appear now are having a Pluto transit. I am usually very calm, I have too many placements in mutable signs...and a Venus trine Uranus too. So really can't get why peeps get sooooooo emo it use to make me feel uncomfortable ...that's why I studied psychology..! IP: Logged |