posted September 26, 2014 03:51 AM            

But seriously now.

All of this Priapic research has paradoxically got me thinking about the astrology of Tantric sex. The more I think of my own nature and contemplate my situation, it may be what I've been missing here; the key component which makes the rest function accordingly. We've already had some experience in this area, but rather than toss out more charts, let's get general and unbiased.

What would we expect (or do we see) in the natals of Tantric practitioners who've had success with exploring it through sex?

Are there any significant markers, aspects, and configurations in synastry we tend to see in relations where the sex is Tantric?

Any signs predominate? Maybe even Draco or Helio links?

Throw it my way. I was surprised to find a dearth of threads on Tantric sex -- but then again, my late-night Google Fu may be less strong than my diurnal researching prowess. If that's the case, mea culpa; feel free to link what's out there.

posted September 26, 2014 04:55 AM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Come one, come all! (Actually, don't; that's totally not Tantric.)

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Siva-Parvati, Kaali, Lilith (I prefer the true black Moon).

I know that can´t be all and there have to be major markers, planetary wise, but those I recalled.

posted September 26, 2014 05:30 AM            

As they used to say in faux '60s, this kind of thing is my bag baby.

I look at Vesta, first. This is Virgo area, to me.

posted September 26, 2014 09:01 AM            

I just checked his chart on astrodatabank (no asteroids) and he has Saturn-Sun conjunction and a Moon-Neptune conjunction, these two conjunctions are the tightest and strongest in his chart.
Mars and Venus dont do much in his chart, Venus is in Virgo, Mars is in Leo.

posted September 26, 2014 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have Vesta conjunct Nymph. hmmmm. Is it a good or bad sign, it is in Capricorn and still in orb with the AP?

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posted September 26, 2014 05:51 PM              

A few excerpts pertaining to the Tantric past:

Synastry:
'His LUST sextile your Saturn shows that sex was good in the past lifetime.'

Composite:
'EROS trine KARMA and KAALI conjunction exact: Karma and Kaali conjunct in 19 Capricorn, 5th House. This is very auspicious as it indicates positive Kundalini Energy exchange through sex. This also solidly backs the past life encounters. There is a chance that you both were disciples of the same Guru in a past lifetime.'

Eros and Mars in Virgo - there will be an element of dedication even in sexual expression.

posted September 26, 2014 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
the singer Sting is a famous tantric sex practicioner

I just checked his chart on astrodatabank (no asteroids) and he has Saturn-Sun conjunction and a Moon-Neptune conjunction, these two conjunctions are the tightest and strongest in his chart.

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Hah! Hilarious. That's my husband; SUN conjunct SATURN, 0º30, MOON conjunct NEPTUNE, 4º (so, okay, wide). I say it's hilarious because -- I love my husband to bits, but ohhhhh, no. Tantra? God, he was bored to tears with sensate focus. (Which utilises similar principles to Tantra.) Maybe it's because ol' Gordon has both in Libra. At least, I'm guessing. NEP is in Libra for him, and I know he's a Libra SUN. Maybe SATURN and NEP are out of orb, but they're all still in Libra.

posted September 26, 2014 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:

HA HA!! YAY- I posted at 2:22!!! 😁

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posted September 26, 2014 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have Vesta conjunct Nymph. hmmmm. Is it a good or bad sign, it is in Capricorn and still in orb with the AP?

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VESTA conjunct NYMPHE makes sense to me, actually. You'd naturally want to transmute all of that wild energy into more Vestal pursuits.

I have NYMPHE-SCHRODINGER, on the other hand. I think this confirms that I am both having, and not having, a sexual relationship, at any given moment. Oftentimes, the very same moment.

But hey, it IS 11H, conjunct NESSUS. It ... could be worse.

posted September 26, 2014 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
This is what iQ said about a past life tantric relationship which was apparent in some charts he read.

A few excerpts pertaining to the Tantric past:

Synastry:
'His LUST sextile your Saturn shows that sex was good in the past lifetime.'

Composite:
'EROS trine KARMA and KAALI conjunction exact: Karma and Kaali conjunct in 19 Capricorn, 5th House. This is very auspicious as it indicates positive Kundalini Energy exchange through sex. This also solidly backs the past life encounters. There is a chance that you both were disciples of the same Guru in a past lifetime.'

Eros and Mars in Virgo - there will be an element of dedication even in sexual expression.

Draconic:
"Asteroids show as "Tantrik" School or Ashram type setting. Your Dr SIVA conjuncts his Dr Descendant to confirm the Ashram partnership scenario."

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posted September 26, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
VESTA conjunct NYMPHE makes sense to me, actually. You'd naturally want to transmute all of that wild energy into more Vestal pursuits.

I have NYMPHE-SCHRODINGER, on the other hand. I think this confirms that I am both having, and not having, a sexual relationship, at any given moment. Oftentimes, the very same moment.

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What would you make of (0 Aries) Vesta 1 conj Salopia? Salopia, if you speak French or related languages, or want to denote another asteroid to possibly less than orthodox sexual... mores?

Also conjunct Hecuba and Belenus though from what I recall, so it's not just the two as the only ones known about.

If going by Google's "Salopia antiqua : or, An enquiry from personal survey into the 'druidical,' military, and other early remains in Shropshire and the north Welsh borders; with observations upon the names of places, and a glossary of words used in the county of Salop (1841)" it may be vastly relevant that Salopia is near Belenus, but I can't tell for now. I have no awareness of contacts to Shropshire or Shrewsbury though, even if a London-time flatmate was from there if I'm right.

I once ran into someone expecting celibacy when talking of Vesta conjunct MC, although I forget what his reasons for that were. Some guy who loved Pele, but back then I didn't yet know I had Pele on my NN, which he'd probably have had a field day with.

posted September 26, 2014 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Auby, these aspects were with my bf. Tantric karma, therefore - no discernible kundalini action in this lifetime though .

Incidentally, so many people here experienced kundalini activation on meeting their SMs - these could be attributed to a tantric past, if not a shared spiritual endeavour.

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Ohhhh. The one that's just ... recently ... ? Shall we say, Sir No Longer Appearing In This Picture? If so, I'm sorry, Astro. God knows how that feels.

And, yes, my Twin undoubtedly started the Kundalini Quickstep over here, unfolding over years. Then, when I met my Guardian Soulmate -- oh, good God. I felt as if I was getting a transdimensional crash-course. Every time, following our being intimate with each other, that night would bring the most bizarre dreams showing me glimpses of our shared past(s), and who was still here. They'd do that thing where they'd suddenly 'flash' into who they are now -- almost like a digital glitching. Practically an eye-blink's duration. Then -- bam -- right back to everything as usual. I remember constantly thinking, 'oh, THAT's who that is?'. It was as if he was showing me, time and again, for at least six months, who this rotating cast of characters was, and how many times they've 'appeared' in my revolving stories.

With, of course, himself in a very clear cut role. In Dramatica, we'd call this The Contagonist; the Lecter to my Starling. 'Oh, I'm not really going to hurt you, but I am certainly going to test you.' (Karmically-speaking, that is. Interpersonally, even the least bit of inconsideration or un-gentlemanly behaviour sends him into furious tirade. But I'm grateful for that quirk of his.)

If the whole soul journey can be summed up in archetypal terms, we'll say the Twin Flame is the 'RI' (or 'Romantic Interest') the one we 'want the hero (or heroine) to end up with'. So, in my view, the Guardian Soulmate would be the Contagonist. Ironically, they stall the Twin Flame Reunion, only to, either ensure its future success later, or because crucial pieces of the puzzle are missing.

Obviously, the Guardian can be genuinely and consistently acting in the individual's best interest -- as mine does. But on a karmic level, there seems to be a long history of challenging, undermining, guiding and tutelage. In some cases, tough love, or just outright opposition. Sometimes the compassionate mentor, other times, the merciless drill sergeant.

All, of course, can be seen traced back through the karmic history. For me, it's this strange 'Contagonist vibe' that I see, winding through the Guardian synastry. The sense of 'being prepared' for the now, via a series of many, many challenges and tests to overcome. Sometimes 'the classroom' emphasis, followed by 'the field test'. Different lifetimes -- or even a series of them, of course. Learning, then testing.

I suppose it makes some sense then, a sexual relationship would need to evolve, too. Clearly, if we'd achieved 'mastery' in this area as well, we'd not have the present intimacy issues and hang-ups. Though it's allowed us to be much more critical about the things which are often overlooked or simply not really examined by the vast majority.

posted September 26, 2014 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela:
What would you make of (0 Aries) Vesta 1 conj Salopia? Salopia, if you speak French or related languages, or want to denote another asteroid to possibly less than orthodox sexual... mores?

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posted September 26, 2014 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Mars trine/sextile Neptune
Moon trine/sextile Pluto
Mars trine/sextile Pluto

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posted September 26, 2014 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Why the trine and sextile, curiously? I get the points. I'm not sure why the soft aspects.

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When you have hard aspects you get more perverted/degenerative expression of the energy. Specially when you have Mars square Neptune.

Soft aspects feels more like the person is your prince/princess.

Except for the conjunction, I don't like square/opp with Neptune or Pluto.

posted September 26, 2014 10:28 PM            

Neptune enjoys playing the weak/damsel in distress.

You feel an immense deal of compassion.

This is the look of Sun trine Neptune. Lol
http://carlygrotephotography.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/puss_in_boots_big_eyes_antonio_banderas_shrek_01-2.jpg

posted September 26, 2014 10:56 PM            

As to the squares, it depends. I've got a loose NEPTUNE square MARS with my husband (6°). Perversion, in my experience, can be the means of deconstructing. Take it apart to better understand it. You might even find it wasn't working. Kink is the natural outgrowth of the sex-negative society in which we find ourselves, ignoring dysfunction and adhering to obsolete stereotypes and archetypal expressions. There are no Charmings, for example; prince or princess.

I've a nice sextile (his MARS, my NEPTUNE) with my partner, of 2°. It's made sex more au naturel, even if we ourselves are so Vulcan as to miss the whole point of it. Something of which my husband is keenly aware. My MARS is too out of orb to conjunct his NEPTUNE; 11°. But, on the flip-side, it is conjunct my husband's NEPTUNE, 5°.

As to other points, one of our biggest aspects is MARS conjunct PLUTO, 0°30. Weak barely-a-semisextile of his NEPTUNE and my SUN; 3°. Curiously, my NEPTUNE opposes my husband's SUN, 3°, as well.

Eeeentedestingk.

And, lastly, my partner (the one with whom I'm looking to explore Tantra) and I have two interesting MOON/PLUTO aspects. His MOON is opposite my PLUTO, 0°30; my MOON sextiles his PLUTO very loosely -- almost beyond the orb I'll consider, but, hey, it's a double, so, I do.

posted September 26, 2014 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
:takes front row seat:

As they used to say in faux '60s, this kind of thing is my bag baby.

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