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Topic: Saturn Synastry
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 26, 2014 09:18 PM
Hi Everyone,Can you share your experience with these aspects: 1- Saturn sextile/trine Moon 2- Saturn sextile/trine Mars 3- Saturn sextile/trine Mercury 4- Saturn sextile/trine Uranus 5- Saturn conjunct Ascendant 6- Saturn conjunct Pluto How did Saturn feels/sees the other person? Does Saturn feel insecure around the ascendant? Personal Experience only... Thx ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 27, 2014 07:27 AM
I have a Saturn DW in synastry, with trine and semisquare, and many other Saturn aspects, so it's perhaps difficult to differentiate the influence but... Moon/Saturn is usually felt very well...my Saturn trines his Moon and our relationship started just before his Saturn conj Moon transit started...not a coincidence, IMO. Sort of like "when the pupil is ready, the teacher arrives" hahahahaha. This trine (especially the trine) is symbolic for the Saturn person bringing emotional maturity and a stable influence to the Moon person. People who are not ready for this (for example, age related) reject Saturnian influences on their Moon.------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 10:15 AM
Did you see the moon as someone mature?How did the moon person made you feel about your insecurities? ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted September 27, 2014 10:35 AM
He has a wise approach on things, but emotionally he's very "raw", so to speak. A very emotional chart overall.He's always supportive, I feel no insecurities with him. ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 703 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 27, 2014 01:04 PM
DW - Saturn trine Sun ( Him) , Saturn sq. Sun.( Me) DW - Saturn trine MOON (Me) , Saturn opp. Moon ( Him) Mercury sq. Saturn, Mars opp. Saturn. Saturn trine Saturn. All in all it works out eventually , if you have Trine Aspects, lets just say when you try to help the Moon, Sun person they understand that it comes from a good place, its not over-bearing or cold . Like a stern parent, its more comforting . IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by olgatheo: DW - Saturn trine Sun ( Him) , Saturn sq. Sun.( Me) DW - Saturn trine MOON (Me) , Saturn opp. Moon ( Him) Mercury sq. Saturn, Mars opp. Saturn. Saturn trine Saturn. All in all it works out eventually , if you have Trine Aspects, lets just say when you try to help the Moon, Sun person they understand that it comes from a good place, its not over-bearing or cold . Like a stern parent, its more comforting .
And what does the personal planet do for Saturn?? I'm trying to get the Saturn perspective since all the interpretation emphasize the Saturn side. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 703 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 27, 2014 02:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: And what does the personal planet do for Saturn??I'm trying to get the Saturn perspective since all the interpretation emphasize the Saturn side.
The sun can make Saturn feel warm, like they come out of a long winter...they make their life happier. Moon can give a home to Saturn , again Saturn will love to make the moon's feel secure ( financially , that's Saturn hallmark ) from experience ! IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 03:18 PM
Now that's more like it.Olgatheo have you experience Asc conjunct Saturn. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3308 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted September 27, 2014 09:39 PM
I have Saturn DW with someone. Individually, we have Saturn sq Moon, and together; my Saturn conj their Moon, and their Saturn conj my Moon. My conjunction to them in exact, theirs to mine in 1 degree off.When we first met I refused to look at the synastry because I didn't want anything to influence my behavior. Elsewhere in the synastry their pSun was conj my nVenus, and my pVenus opp their nMars. When I first met this person I didn't really recognize them, although they were very polite and friendly. Then one night I had a dream/astral encounter; I was standing at a street corner next to them absently looking into the distance. Without warning they reached for my hand, startled, I pulled away. "What are you scared from?", "I'm not scared!, wasn't expecting you to do that." They reached for my hand again, and we walked off into the distance..../dream. After this encounter I paid more attention to this person. Soon enough it dawned on me - I wasn't particularly attracted to this person (they're not available anyway), nor do I really like them. Issues: 1 - too much of a prankster / not serious enough 2 - never answered my questions satisfactorily. I felt imposing. 3 - resorts to name calling during disagreements. 4 - broken promises. 5 - I always felt like they didn't want me around. Nevermind I was invited to their home three times. I never felt those were genuine. Due to the above issues I censored my emotional reaction to them. I wasn't open and engaging with them as I was with other members of the group. Eg. I gave those who asked detailed readings (astro), and answered all followup questions. Perhaps I have trust issues, but I didn't believe their birth date was accurate, I always felt they were hiding something. When they produced documentation (lol) I brushed it off. One day they produced a photograph of them as a beaming, happy, friendly young child about 7 or eight - and I was devastated. Clearly this person thought I was interesting, and worth befriending, but I couldn't stand their guts...ugh, it was terrible. Thing is, every time I let my guard I felt hurt. In response I became increasingly detached. Too many broken promises, telling of confidential information, and withholdings...On top of this they'd expect me to do favors for them. Eventually, I stopped sidestepping and told them flatly NO. Things got ugly at the end. I mean, really, really bad. I blame the Venus-Mars opposition. I'm actually happy I don't have to worry about them anymore, though we still move in the same circles. They really know, unwittingly, how to p### me off and hurt my feelings, and I won't allow them that power. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 10:00 PM
Great feedback...That's so Natal Saturn square Moon. I have noticed that those with Moon/Saturn affliction play out the Saturn when ever someone plays the moon. Even if they don't share the aspect in synastry. It's as if being the cold one give them the power, and are afraid that if they reciprocate the feelings; the cycle of rejection will begin again. Do you find this statement accurate? ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 10:04 PM
I'm dealing with someone that has Moon conjunct Saturn. It's very confusing how she can switch back and forth between being sweet(she has moon trine neptune) and being aloof/harsh/selfish. She's extremely selfish and I wonder if it's because she felt used in the past and she's trying to get as much from others as she can before the eventual rejection. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 27, 2014 10:08 PM
Moon/Saturn afflicted is very afraid of intimacy.Some times in our conversations when I turn very caring and nurturing(Venus in Cancer) she stops communicating. From your perspective as someone that has the aspect what's going on there? <--- Could you expand on this. Another thing I've noticed is when I play the Saturn(Unfeeling) roll, she starts acting sweet. What does Moon/Saturn makes you feel unworthy of? <--- Could you explain ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 703 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 28, 2014 06:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Now that's more like it.Olgatheo have you experience Asc conjunct Saturn.
No I have not , but my current beau is Saturn/moon/Uranus conj. DEC. Still felt restriction at first....Saturn conj. ASC I would think you might met them after 30 yrs , you start to attract peeps that activate your Asc. Will probabely bring structure in your life. IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 703 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 28, 2014 06:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Moon/Saturn afflicted is very afraid of intimacy.Some times in our conversations when I turn very caring and nurturing(Venus in Cancer) she stops communicating. From your perspective as someone that has the aspect what's going on there? <--- Could you expand on this. Another thing I've noticed is when I play the Saturn(Unfeeling) roll, she starts acting sweet. What does Moon/Saturn makes you feel unworthy of? <--- Could you explain
My beau has a conj. Saturn/Moon, I have a Sun/Saturn conj. Moon is mothering, backround, your roots?? Maybe she felt let down as a kid, and was not allowed to show emotions, or her Mum had to work and she could not spend time with her, I have noticed that this aspect usually makes them insecure about their home, family or finances...sometimes a family that can't even put food on the table. The skinny aspect , is she thin?? She will make a good mother though, Saturn will teach her to be very independent and even successful . Give her time, when she finally warms up, she will be very loyal. Again speaking from experience.
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 11:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by olgatheo: No I have not , but my current beau is Saturn/moon/Uranus conj. DEC. Still felt restriction at first....Saturn conj. ASC I would think you might met them after 30 yrs , you start to attract peeps that activate your Asc. Will probabely bring structure in your life.
My Asc conjunct her Moon/Mars/Saturn/Pluto. She has Moon/Mars conjunct Saturn natally. I don't have any Moon/Asc/Saturn affliction. I wonder if the way I project myself make her feel insecure. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 11:18 AM
I've never heard of this part "finances" before but it does make sense.She's in good shape even though she doesn't work out... I've read all about the possible eating disorder, mother not showing emotions, too much discipline, but I still feel there is something missing. Is she insecure about her feelings? Is she insecure of being worthed of nourishment? Is she afraid of being used, After all everybody dump their problems on them? Is the selfishness part of this aspect? ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3308 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted September 28, 2014 12:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Great feedback...That's so Natal Saturn square Moon. I have noticed that those with Moon/Saturn affliction play out the Saturn when ever someone plays the moon. Even if they don't share the aspect in synastry. It's as if being the cold one give them the power, and are afraid that if they reciprocate the feelings; the cycle of rejection will begin again. Do you find this statement accurate?
I have moon in Sag, trine Jupiter, conj Neptune. So I almost always rush in head first without first getting to know people. I turn to stone only after being burned, or feeling used. I'd like to believe I welcome every new person enthusiastically. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3308 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted September 28, 2014 12:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: [B]Moon/Saturn afflicted is very afraid of intimacy
I think so. quote: Some times in our conversations when I turn very caring and nurturing(Venus in Cancer) she stops communicating. From your perspective as someone that has the aspect what's going on there? <--- Could you expand on this.
I can't put my hands on it, just bugs me. I much prefer straight/sober talk. quote: Another thing I've noticed is when I play the Saturn(Unfeeling) roll, she starts acting sweet.
It's how mommy dearest was, so it's familiar, thus easier to relate to. Everything must be earned. quote: What does Moon/Saturn makes you feel unworthy of? <--- Could you explain
That nothing, especially affection, is free. You must earn it. Thus, if someone is being nice to you without effort on your part, its suspect - the bill be come due later, at an inconvenient time. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 12:19 PM
Wow.... That's what i thought.It doesn't help Her Mom is Cancer Sun/Virgo Venus/ Sag Moon square Saturn. Me Virgo Sun/Cancer Venus/Sag Moon conjunct Uranus. My Venus/Pluto sextile her Chiron so that should help. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 703 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 28, 2014 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: I've never heard of this part "finances" before but it does make sense.She's in good shape even though she doesn't work out... I've read all about the possible eating disorder, mother not showing emotions, too much discipline, but I still feel there is something missing. Is she insecure about her feelings? Is she insecure of being worthed of nourishment? Is she afraid of being used, After all everybody dump their problems on them? Is the selfishness part of this aspect?
I think you have ans. Your own questions. Yes to all. Saturn is fear so there is a fear around showing emotions, of letting somebody in,cause in the past she had to depend on self. It will take a while for,her to let you in , but she will eventually. :-) IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 02:52 PM
I'm very reliable and proved to her that she is priority.She keeps testing me - pushing me way then being nice; having venus square pluto natally, I'm hypersensitive to any manipulative moves. So I just brush it off and act like nothing happened, super congenial, cheerful, and positive(Libra Asc). Let's see where this leads to. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 02:54 PM
Getting the thread back on track... 0=)Can people talk about the soft aspects mention in the 1st post. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
alyssa27 Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 28, 2014 07:16 PM
moon trine saturn 0'02 i'm the moon and his moon trine my saturn but with 6 degree orb..sometimes he acts like my dad ..but i need it cause sometimes i'm a little bit irresponsible.he is more emotional stable than me..somedays my head is up in the clouds and these days he knows how to bring me down to earth ..i think there is a balance.. generally i feel secure i think with easy moon-saturn aspects the keyword is emotional security! IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted September 28, 2014 07:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by alyssa27: moon trine saturn 0'02 i'm the moon and his moon trine my saturn but with 6 degree orb..sometimes he acts like my dad ..but i need it cause sometimes i'm a little bit irresponsible.he is more emotional stable than me..somedays my head is up in the clouds and these days he knows how to bring me down to earth ..i think there is a balance.. generally i feel secure i think with easy moon-saturn aspects the keyword is emotional security!
Great to know!!!... That's how I feel the sextile. Like this person will always be there for me. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini Knowflake Posts: 375 From: Los Angeles, Calif Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 29, 2014 02:19 AM
I think it's more STRONG when Saturn conjuncts a person's personal planet like Sun and Venus.My Libra Saturn conjuncts the guy I'm seeing's Sun by 1 degree so it's very close. When we first met, we were both very powerfully struck by each other. The impressions are strong, and yet we were immediately at ease with each other and found a lot things to talk about. Also, I think when person's Saturn falls into your 4th house of family/origins, that's a very powerful synastry jolt. My Libra Saturn falls into this guy's 4th house, whereas, his Capricorn Saturn falls into my 4th house too. We're headed in the same direction as far as what we want out of life. IP: Logged |