posted September 28, 2014 02:32 PM            

His Moon for the same 25 September is at 16 Pisces, and it moved from 8 to 24 Pisces between 9 September and 6 October.

How can it be 12.5 degrees per day when the Moon moves 15 degrees in 27 days??

EDIT: I am talking about the progressed charts in astro, not the natural Moon.

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posted September 28, 2014 02:35 PM            

The TP Moon does not travel 12,5 degree per day (only about 0,5), but the real time Moon does.

With the secondary progressions we treat every day after birth as a whole year.
With the tertiary progressions we treat every day after birth as a month of your life.

And the Moon moving 12,5 degrees per day in the ephemeris thus equals the TERTIARY Moon moving 12,5 degrees per month (as on day in the ephemeris = one month in your life).

So the secondary progressions represent yearly progressions, the tertiaries monthly.

posted September 28, 2014 02:55 PM            

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Also, the figure of 12,5 degrees that the Moon moves per day, is just an approximate one. The Moon`s speed varies, so it can be a slow Moon with maybe just 10 or 11 degrees (though I have never seen that), or could be 12 - 13 degrees (which is what I usually see) or like in your case exceeding this even.

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posted September 28, 2014 03:06 PM            

you have very impressive synastry. I think the tp - tp also plays a role, not just tp- n, but probably more strongly if tied to natal luminaries or angles.

the angular action is also there and impressive.
I love the NN/Vertex as well.

"my p ASC/DSC 5 Leo/Aqua
his n Venus 7.44 Aqua"
So I suppose this would have been peaking about 2-3 months after you getting together?
Venus to angles is always a winner in my opinion.
AND it is the same one Orange had to, right?
Though no I am mistaken hers was in her individual progressions.

Actually you made me look up when my sp ASC was crossing my natal Venus.
And it almost made me laugh.
It was entering (sf has 1 degree orb for proressions) in january 2008, just 4 months before meeting Mr Sag, and as a matter of fact, just 2 weeks prior seeing him coincidentally again on a concert (had seen him 2 years before that, when my p Sun was just separating from a conjunction to his n Venus. LOL) and somehow that concert impressed me enough to want to see him again on a stage, though I never even intended for us to meet.

as for the tp DESC conjunct my natal Venus, that actually is not even that long ago.
happened last year in summer. Hmmm.

and funny enough, this month (until 17th october using 1 degree orb) TP Venus is conjunct my natal DESC.
Double hmm. lol

"my p Moon 19.30 Virgo
my n Sun 20 Virgo
his n Sun 21 Pisces"
So another one with strong Sun-Moon-relation. So it also works on the tertiary level. I love that!

"is p Moon 16.30 Pisces
my n MC 16.44 Scorpio
his n Moon 16.30 Scorpio
my n Moon 14-15 Leo"
Jip, something like that i expected to find. not necessarily Moon-Moon, though in the few cases I have seen so far, it seems to be quite often the case that the Moons are somehow in contact, usually 4th harmonic contact, of course the tp is moving fast.
And tied to the angles, a hook into manifestation. Perfect.

"my p Venus 26 Cap
my p Saturn 27 Libra
his n Uranus 27 Libra (5th)"
I have a soft spot for Venus-Uranus as electrifier of romance.

"I would like to ask you about this Mercury connection in particular, how do you see it?? His Mercury rules his ASC, SN and MC."
Mercury is very important to him then, the messenger and carrier of his connection to the world. A stong identity planet for him.

"his pMars 4.45 Gem
his n Mars 7 Gem
my n Venus 6.20 Virgo"
Definitely an important attraction pattern.
My brother and his gf actually had the square of Venus and Mars in the tp, too.

"his p Venus 6 Virgo
my n Venus 6 Virgo"

as you can see I was not in the mood for asteroids. lol
Not that I think they are not important, but for now I am just scanning for the major players, so I just singled out those from your list that I thought were very gobsmacking. Still a long list .

posted September 28, 2014 03:12 PM            

YESSS, that is what I hoped to see.

"in our synastry, his Sun in Aries exactly opposes my Venus, so in the tertiary for that month, my Tp DSC was exactly on his Sun ( and Saturn) at 17' Aries."
So the tertiary brought that natal promise into manifestation. What better to do so than the DESC?
Still isn`t it fascinating and stunning?

"In his tertiary - the Tp MC was at 15' Gemini which is my natal IC ( 15' Gemini), and his Tp ASC was at 18' Virgo, which is my natal Vertex ( 18' Virgo).
his Tp Vertex is at 1' Pisces, which is my natal ASC ( 1' Pisces)."
So you, too, had a VX-ASC DW.
And just look at that! Such exact activation!
Of course angular action are always a "must (okay-hope - to) find"

"The Venus - Mars upcoming conjunction I the tertiary, is becoming exact in October next year. It's a pretty powerful tertiary - the Venus-Mars conjunction becomes exact at 15' Gemini ( my natal IC), and the Tp Sun is exactly dead on the Tp DSC, (which is the degree of my natal Jupiter)."
And again an individual progression/ natal promise being set off through the synastry, and so fitting in symbolism.
You make a great guinea pig!

posted September 28, 2014 03:17 PM            

it looks like your current tps are near to the date that generated yourMoon Persona chart.

Since the Persona charts are activated after the transiting Sun reached the exact position of the planet in question, Moon in this case, (so within the first year of birth), at some point they will align with some tertiary progressed charts.

For example let`s say one person`s Moon was 12 degrees after their Sun at birth. So the Moon persona chart would be the chart of 12 days after the birth.

However THIS particular day would also be used to calculate the secondary progressions of when you were 12 years old, and also when you were 12 months old for hte tertiary progressions.

posted September 28, 2014 03:20 PM            

If you really want to know how someone is feeling find your name asteroids in their TP chart and see what planets/asteroids its aspecting.

For example your name astroid conjunct their aphrodite and mercury means they are thinking a lot about you and associate you with beauty.

posted September 28, 2014 03:26 PM            

my secondary progressions when I was 10 years old, were the 28th december 1974 as well.
Of course that also was the year my p Sun was conjunct my n Venus.

posted September 28, 2014 03:41 PM            

My name in his tp chart was on 7 Gemini, right on MY DESC and his transiting name. LOL
also conjunt his tp Psyche and with some other aspects.

Last month his name in my tp chart was on 14 Cancer conjunct tp ASC on 16 Cancer, which is conjunct my n Saturn on 16 Cancer.

my name in his tp chart was on 15 Gemini (right on my natal Karma. lol) conjunct tp AVX exact.
and trine his tp Valentine by one degree (which was funny enough on my natal Moon. lol)

LOL and his tp Eros was conjunct my (and his) natal Psyche exact.

my tp Psyche will still take a while to come into conjunction with my natal Eros (I am slow to get it I guess) but when it does it will also bring his name in my tp in conjunction to my Eros.

(my name in his chart is conjunct his Eros natally anyway)

posted September 28, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Cappy,

it looks like your current tps are near to the date that generated yourMoon Persona chart.

Since the Persona charts are activated after the transiting Sun reached the exact position of the planet in question, Moon in this case, (so within the first year of birth), at some point they will align with some tertiary progressed charts.

For example let`s say one person`s Moon was 12 degrees after their Sun at birth. So the Moon persona chart would be the chart of 12 days after the birth.

However THIS particular day would also be used to calculate the secondary progressions of when you were 12 years old, and also when you were 12 months old for hte tertiary progressions.

I wonder if when that happens we "wake up" such a planet. For example if that happens for you this year, your Moon might wake up and become a very focal planet for you.

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No, no, I posted my past progressions. From the month my crush started

posted September 28, 2014 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

you have very impressive synastry. I think the tp - tp also plays a role, not just tp- n, but probably more strongly if tied to natal luminaries or angles.

the angular action is also there and impressive.
I love the NN/Vertex as well.

"my p ASC/DSC 5 Leo/Aqua
his n Venus 7.44 Aqua"
So I suppose this would have been peaking about 2-3 months after you getting together?
Venus to angles is always a winner in my opinion.
AND it is the same one Orange had to, right?
Though no I am mistaken hers was in her individual progressions.

Actually you made me look up when my sp ASC was crossing my natal Venus.
And it almost made me laugh.
It was entering (sf has 1 degree orb for proressions) in january 2008, just 4 months before meeting Mr Sag, and as a matter of fact, just 2 weeks prior seeing him coincidentally again on a concert (had seen him 2 years before that, when my p Sun was just separating from a conjunction to his n Venus. LOL) and somehow that concert impressed me enough to want to see him again on a stage, though I never even intended for us to meet.

as for the tp DESC conjunct my natal Venus, that actually is not even that long ago.
happened last year in summer. Hmmm.

and funny enough, this month (until 17th october using 1 degree orb) TP Venus is conjunct my natal DESC.
Double hmm. lol

"my p Moon 19.30 Virgo
my n Sun 20 Virgo
his n Sun 21 Pisces"
So another one with strong Sun-Moon-relation. So it also works on the tertiary level. I love that!

"is p Moon 16.30 Pisces
my n MC 16.44 Scorpio
his n Moon 16.30 Scorpio
my n Moon 14-15 Leo"
Jip, something like that i expected to find. not necessarily Moon-Moon, though in the few cases I have seen so far, it seems to be quite often the case that the Moons are somehow in contact, usually 4th harmonic contact, of course the tp is moving fast.
And tied to the angles, a hook into manifestation. Perfect.

"my p Venus 26 Cap
my p Saturn 27 Libra
his n Uranus 27 Libra (5th)"
I have a soft spot for Venus-Uranus as electrifier of romance.

"I would like to ask you about this Mercury connection in particular, how do you see it?? His Mercury rules his ASC, SN and MC."
Mercury is very important to him then, the messenger and carrier of his connection to the world. A stong identity planet for him.

"his pMars 4.45 Gem
his n Mars 7 Gem
my n Venus 6.20 Virgo"
Definitely an important attraction pattern.
My brother and his gf actually had the square of Venus and Mars in the tp, too.

"his p Venus 6 Virgo
my n Venus 6 Virgo"

as you can see I was not in the mood for asteroids. lol
Not that I think they are not important, but for now I am just scanning for the major players, so I just singled out those from your list that I thought were very gobsmacking. Still a long list .

I also think it is important that you had the individual "connection-progressions" (like him the Venus-Mars aspect) and that the synastry confirmed that and docked onto that

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Thank you, Ceri, for the analysis

We have a synastric Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Neptune cross and all important "temporary" astrology (progressions, transits, draco, FM, SA etc.) activate this cross, so it makes sense for at least one square to be there. At least that's what I've been thinking all along, at least some progressed aspects, if not the exact one (at the actual event) should be the ones needed for the synastry/natals. Yes, we do have Westran aspects too so it's hard to distinguish perhaps, in our case, but the activation of this cross is pretty clear in many charts and I've seen this in other charts as well (my parents, for instance): "personalized" progressions coupled with general progressed "love markers".

On the other hand, I wonder if there are couples who get no action at all - have you seen one, Mir? - because if we introduce p to p, p to n, helio, draco etc chances are there will be at least one applying aspect in these charts from Venus, Sun or Moon. Or am I wrong, Mir?

posted May 22, 2015 07:16 AM            

and all the discussions with Mir...so, Mir, what is the answer?

posted May 22, 2015 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I just noticed the tertiary progressed composite for the weekend.

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where is it?

posted May 22, 2015 07:29 AM            

And yes, maybe we could not find those cancellation aspects, cause it was not a cancellation chart.

our tp composite has

TP Venus 16°54 Taurus in 11th
TP Uranus 16°32 Scorpio in 5th
TP Moon 17°22 Aquarius in 8th

Tp Venus applying to conjunct TP Sun by 1°11 (highlights june/july actually)

posted May 22, 2015 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s in my solar fire. lol

And yes, maybe we could not find those cancellation aspects, cause it was not a cancellation chart.

our tp composite has

TP Venus 16°54 Taurus in 11th
TP Uranus 16°32 Scorpio in 5th
TP Moon 17°22 Aquarius in 8th

Tp Venus applying to conjunct TP Sun by 1°11 (highlights june/july actually)

TP ASC having JUST changed into leo and being conjunct composite DESC 0°37 a

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This is your Moon!

posted May 22, 2015 09:09 AM            

you know I am in the peak of my progressed fullmoon.

pSun 7°07 Aquarius
pMoon 7°52 Leo
(btw called "Queen`s Moon" )

And I just realized that it connect to his tertiary progressions, as he has this month

tp ASC 6°45 Leo
tp NN 8°28 Leo

Well, this is of course in its applying phase, and will peak not necessarily this weekend, but fro the june concert his tp ASC will be on 7°28 Leo (of course my p Moon will be on 8°40 Leo at that time, but my pSun will still be on 7 Aquarius for the whole year actually).

Interestingly my tp ASC is at the moment applying to his natal Venus-Juno-opposition
As of now the orb of my tp DESC to his Venus is still 1°52 applying and for his Juno almost 3 degrees applying, but it means that this one will be most focal in july/august.

Interestingly at the end of august my tp MC will enter 00 Aries, which seems rather significant.

And up to that time (from now to september) my tp Moon will have kicked off pretty much every personal planet in my chart. lol (except Moon, that one will follow on 20th or 21st october, being conjunct my natal Moon and tp Mars being exactly opposite. probably exhausting, but emotionally intense).

and just on my birthday or shortly thereafter my tp Sun-Venus-conjunction will peak along with my tp ASC entering Leo.
Well the tpSun-Venus will take place on 27°09 Gemini.

Anyway for the next three months, my TP Moon will have following aspects.

JUNE
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° conjunct n Mars
° conjunct n ASC

° conjunct tp Vertex
° opposite tp Sun and tp Venus
° trine tp Mars

july
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° opposite tp Sun and tp Venus (possibly the last days of june or first 2 days of july)

° conjunct n Sun and n Mercury

and end of july/ beginning of august

° conjunct n Venus

and at the end of september

° conjunct tp DESC (on Mr Sag`s n Venus. lol)

Well my tp Moon is quite active once again, after a relatively quiet time,e xcept for

- conjunct Pluto in march

- conjunct tp and n uranus and square tp Saturn and opposing tp Chiron at the end of april/ beginning of may

posted May 22, 2015 02:31 PM            

But I get too confused with the tp Moon given on astro.com also.

OK, HELP me for a second please;

My current tp Moon (I just see/says astro.com) is at 15'45 Aries.

And above my tp wheel I see:

"Tertiary progressions from 4 may 2015 until 31 may 2015"

So, BIG question =

Where is my true tp Moon now?

posted May 22, 2015 02:54 PM            

natal= blueprint (of your fate, personality, whatever)

secondary progression= major themes for the year

tertiary progression= pinpointing the month when certain things will "jumpstart"

I think especially when those tertiary progressions repeat or emphasize a secondary progression theme they will be very relevant.

A gloomish example:

in 2013 my secondary progressed Moon was transiting over my progressed DESC (in Cancer), and also squaring Pluto - so a heavy Moon-Pluto-theme that year.

Then on 9th july 2013 my tp Moon was conjunct my tp DESC, and then on 15th july my tp Moon was conjunct my spASC exactly, opposing my sp Moon by 2 degrees, and all of this within a degree of squaring Pluto.

8-10 Cancer (and Capricorn for my sp ASC and tp Moon)
With Transit Pluto on 9 Capricorn.

My grandmother died on the early morning of 15th july that year: she had a Sun-Mars-Pluto-conjunction on 8-10 Cancer.

Even more so WHEN she died Transiting Moon and Transiting ASC were perfectly aligned on these cardinal degrees as well.
Tr ASC on 9 Cancer
Tr Moon on 10 Libra
and naturaly Tr Pluto on 9 Capricorn

It is really spooky if you think about it.

BTW she was my Dad`s mother, he was with her when she died, and he has Mars conjunct SN on 9 Libra exact (the nodal axis is sometimes said to be related to maternal things, too).

posted May 22, 2015 02:57 PM            

Yes... I would like a solar fire try for this right-now moment so I can Always look back at it as an example!