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Topic: Exact Pluto/Venus-Help!
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ScorpieScorp
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posted September 28, 2014 09:53 PM
  
I have an exact Pluto/Venus (he is Pluto, I am Venus) and I have been trying to avoid thinking about him because he is not my type...but it seems like he keeps "following" me via advertisements (he's an actor)...I'm wondering: 1) Does he think of me given our exactness?
2) What other aspects are important in really analyzing the synastry here *All orbs are rounded** He's a Taurus, I'm a Scorpio.
His Moon Trines my Sun at 3 orb
Venus trines Venus exact
My Pluto in conjuncts his Sun at 1 orb
His Saturn conjuncts my Venus at 2 orb
His NN trines my Venus at 2 orb
His Vertex is conjoint my AC exact
My AC sextiles his Venus exact And a LOT LOT more....(just don't know which aspects to post) Analysis? Thoughts? IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 28, 2014 10:41 PM
Have you two met face to face?IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 28, 2014 10:47 PM
Yes, we have hung out several times actually. A mutual friend of his asked that I show him around town.However, after first meeting him, he got very sexually aggressive with me and I decided to stay away. We decided to hang out one last time before he left town--because a friend wanted to meet him about something... Same thing happened again--we ended the night in a big fight. There is a lot of intensity that radiates him--and is between us. But I just feel he was always after me sexually (hence Pluto/Venus)... IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 28, 2014 11:16 PM
I'll leave most of what you're asking to the experts here!
But I too have an exact pluto/venus conjunction in synastry.
I'm venus- he's pluto.
It's maddening for me. I feel obsessed, taken over, so drawn to him. It's like nothing I've ever felt for anyone else.
Just when I think it's all in my head- he appears all pluto like wanting to probe into my personal life & throw me for a loop again (saying he does have feelings...) only to be followed by periods of silence again. Then the cycle continues.
It's definitely the most fiery aspect I've ever experienced. Also very painful. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 28, 2014 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
I'll leave most of what you're asking to the experts here!
But I too have an exact pluto/venus conjunction in synastry.
I'm venus- he's pluto.
It's maddening for me. I feel obsessed, taken over, so drawn to him. It's like nothing I've ever felt for anyone else.
Just when I think it's all in my head- he appears all pluto like wanting to probe into my personal life & throw me for a loop again (saying he does have feelings...) only to be followed by periods of silence again. Then the cycle continues.
It's definitely the most fiery aspect I've ever experienced. Also very painful.
Yes, it's so weird, I had completely not thought about him for a few months...but I KNEW when I met him, that this could be trouble.... He also have a Pluto/Venus nattily...so perhaps he doesn't even notice it...he is Pluto, and hear Venus is the one that gets obsessed.... But he as a Pluto MUST feel something as well right? What about those other aspects? They are close in orb as well.... IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted September 29, 2014 01:18 AM
Venus Pluto is def on another level of either extreme ecstasy or extreme disturbance.  IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Venus Pluto is def on another level of either extreme ecstasy or extreme disturbance.
Can you share your experiences? Also do you know what else I should be looking at in the chart to see if this would go negatively or positively? IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 29, 2014 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Venus Pluto is def on another level of either extreme ecstasy or extreme disturbance.
Both!! IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted September 29, 2014 01:30 PM
It's a hefty aspect. I've got it myself loosely (but it's a DW, whereas the other is exact). I can tell you that any exact aspect will deeply colour an interaction. The exact aspect we DO have is MARS conjunct PLUTO. While different expression, it's a very intense connexion. Is there a reason you're avoiding the possibility of a relationship? Though, actors -- I hear you! At least he's not A-list, right? (Don't say who it is -- of course, you already know not to, heh.) Because that's a whole other headache. IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 29, 2014 01:59 PM
In an exact venus/pluto conjunction would it be possible for one party NOT to feel it?
I know venus feels it differently then pluto- but curious how this plays out esp from the pluto side. Or does it depend entirely on the natals?IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's a hefty aspect. I've got it myself loosely (but it's a DW, whereas the other is exact). I can tell you that any exact aspect will deeply colour an interaction. The exact aspect we DO have is MARS conjunct PLUTO. While different expression, it's a very intense connexion. Is there a reason you're avoiding the possibility of a relationship? Though, actors -- I hear you! At least he's not A-list, right? (Don't say who it is -- of course, you already know not to, heh.) Because that's a whole other headache.
Yea--he's not a A-lister, no need to worry there..he's on his way up though. For a lot of reasons--but basically he is bad news bears. Drinking/Drugs, sexually aggressive--mean drunk..etc. Not my thing (neither are actors really)...BUT there is some sort of strange pull--even though we are not alike at all! IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 03:26 PM
There needs to be a support group for anyone involved in Pluto/Venus aspects!  IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 29, 2014 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
There needs to be a support group for anyone involved in Pluto/Venus aspects!
I'll join!
I can prob run it at this point! IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 07:04 PM
Can anyone else add their experiences with Pluto/Venus?I'd especially like to know if I there are other aspects I should be looking for as well... Your thoughts appreciated! IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted September 29, 2014 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
In an exact venus/pluto conjunction would it be possible for one party NOT to feel it?
I know venus feels it differently then pluto- but curious how this plays out esp from the pluto side. Or does it depend entirely on the natals?
It's all about the handling of power again, in regards to PLUTO. How PLUTO's going to express its side has entirely to do with ability to effectively manage power. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's all about the handling of power again, in regards to PLUTO. How PLUTO's going to express its side has entirely to do with ability to effectively manage power.
OK if that's the case, He is Pluto...and has Pluto/Venus in his Natal...so how does he handle power? IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 29, 2014 08:42 PM
i had this, i was venus, he was pluto and it was exact. we were together 3 years. i always *thought* i felt more, but who knows. he had pluto in his 1st house, so he was very pluto-influenced. imo pluto has the power in the sense that venus will pretty much do anything to hold their attention and keep them interested. pluto can toy with affections of venus, i feel. but in the end ime it is venus who generally ups and leaves when the power plays become too much. it is like a force you just can't stop, it's an amazing aspect, but you'd need contact to a moon imo to elevate it to love and not just passionIP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 29, 2014 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i had this, i was venus, he was pluto and it was exact. we were together 3 years. i always *thought* i felt more, but who knows. he had pluto in his 1st house, so he was very pluto-influenced. imo pluto has the power in the sense that venus will pretty much do anything to hold their attention and keep them interested. pluto can toy with affections of venus, i feel. but in the end ime it is venus who generally ups and leaves when the power plays become too much. it is like a force you just can't stop, it's an amazing aspect, but you'd need contact to a moon imo to elevate it to love and not just passion
Well we do have Moon Trine Sun...that count? Or does it need to be with Pluto? IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 29, 2014 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Well we do have Moon Trine Sun...that count? Or does it need to be with Pluto?
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Aubyanne
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posted September 30, 2014 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
OK if that's the case, He is Pluto...and has Pluto/Venus in his Natal...so how does he handle power?
Doesn't matter. Is it afflicted? Are there some rough squares? IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted September 30, 2014 02:32 AM
I have Venus at 18Tau47, my father has Pluto at 18Leo47. I know it's not where you guys were heading with this, but abuse is imo a possibility with this one. ------------------
~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini
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posted September 30, 2014 06:01 AM
There's got to be something else at play because Pluto is a generational planet and can last 30 years in 1 sign which means that there's TONS of people who will have same degrees of Pluto for years.Someone's Pluto to your personal planet is too vague and not specific about the person's interaction with you. There's got to be involvement with the other person's superior planets... maybe Mars or Saturn. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 30, 2014 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
There's got to be something else at play because Pluto is a generational planet and can last 30 years in 1 sign which means that there's TONS of people who will have same degrees of Pluto for years.Someone's Pluto to your personal planet is too vague and not specific about the person's interaction with you. There's got to be involvement with the other person's superior planets... maybe Mars or Saturn.
thia is not completely accurate. pluto is a generational sign, yes, but it will not always make an exact 0 degree aspect with your venus, or any other sign. that is is why her aspect - exact - to his pluto holds significance. she may have the same aspect with someone else in that guy's age group, but it could be to a wider degree. which is why, in syastry, degrees matter a lot, and why, with generational planets you really only look at aspects below 2 degrees, because once you get above that it matters less for generational planets. but 0 degree contacts are always important in synastry, even with an outer planet. not everyone with pluto will make that connection to her IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted September 30, 2014 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
thia is not completely accurate. pluto is a generational sign, yes, but it will not always make an exact 0 degree aspect with your venus, or any other sign. that is is why her aspect - exact - to his pluto holds significance. she may have the same aspect with someone else in that guy's age group, but it could be to a wider degree. which is why, in syastry, degrees matter a lot, and why, with generational planets you really only look at aspects below 2 degrees, because once you get above that it matters less for generational planets. but 0 degree contacts are always important in synastry, even with an outer planet. not everyone with pluto will make that connection to her
GREAT explanation--thank you! Here are our exact aspects (rounded): My Sun Trine his PoF His Moon semi square my Chiron My Mercury inconjunct his Venus
My Mercury semisextile his Neptune
My Mercury semisextile his Pluto
My Mercury Square his Vertex
His Mercury sesquiquadrate my PoF
His Mercury conjunct my MC His Venus Trine my Venus
His Venus Sextile my AC
My Venus Conjunct his Pluto
My Venus inconjunct his Chiron
My Venus Sextile his Vertex My Mars Quitile his Mars
My Mars bQ his Neptune
His Mars Sequiquadrate my PoF
His Mars conjunct my MC His Pluto sextile my AC There are a TON of others in the 1-3orb range, BUT these are in the EXACT range.
I included PoF since mine is conjunct my Moon natal. Anyone care to expand? IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ
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posted September 30, 2014 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
thia is not completely accurate. pluto is a generational sign, yes, but it will not always make an exact 0 degree aspect with your venus, or any other sign. that is is why her aspect - exact - to his pluto holds significance. she may have the same aspect with someone else in that guy's age group, but it could be to a wider degree. which is why, in syastry, degrees matter a lot, and why, with generational planets you really only look at aspects below 2 degrees, because once you get above that it matters less for generational planets. but 0 degree contacts are always important in synastry, even with an outer planet. not everyone with pluto will make that connection to her
Correct.
In my case it's a less then 1 orb conjunction and we are 12.5 years apart in age.
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