posted August 11, 2014 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Obviously Mercury is very important in synastry. But I think the level of importance depends on the individual charts. If someone is very Mercurial (Gemini/Virgo/Mercury prominent), it will be really important to them. If someone doesn't have a prominent Mercury, it may be easier for them to deal with the negative aspects or the lack of Mercury aspects.

In my experience, squares are very difficult to handle. Communication just doesn't flow, no matter how hard you try to make it work. Saturn in the mix can be fatal! It's not completely unmanageable, but I'd rather have flowing aspects with Mercury. It's so much easier to relate to each other and you don't have to worry about being criticised or misunderstood.

When there are no Mercury aspects, you're just on completely different wavelengths. It's like there's nothing to talk about. And if you do talk about something, there's rarely a feeling of true exchange. It's a bit shallow and awkward. Again, this is just my experience.

Moon/Mercury or Venus/Mercury aspects are very popular between close people, especially in friendships I've noticed.

I don't ever want to have a Mercury square Mars aspect in synastry.. it always ends in conflict and sometimes verbal abuse.

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posted September 30, 2014 02:32 AM            

The jupiter merc conjunction definitely adds to the intellectual and philosophical realm of discussion, and the moon sextile just adds a comfort and sense of ease in discussion (as well as a pretty loose DW sun-merc conjunct)

We also have a merc-pluto DW, and this really lends to some intense conversations, my pluto trines his merc, his squares mine. We definitely haven't been afraid of talking about anything with eachother.

We do also have neptune-merc opposition. Definitely adds a sort of otherworldly dreamy realm to conversation where it feels like we are interpreting something beyond the actual words that are spoken, however it can get muddled and confusing, like "am I just imagining what they said or did they actually say/mean that...?"

posted September 30, 2014 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
I have mercury sq mars in synastry (and in composite) with a very mercurial individual and i've actually found it to be positive, although there are a lot of other good aspects that probably ease it (sextiles to moon, conj jupiter, trine pluto, etc). However I notice that because of his highly mercurial nature, he demands a lot of mental stimulation and the heated discussions that mars-mercury square incite are interesting to him. We are related by an intellectual profession so we have that as a means to which mars-mercury energy can channel through, i'd imagine in a domestic situation it would become irritating unless there was a good way for the two to channel their heated discussions into.

The jupiter merc conjunction definitely adds to the intellectual and philosophical realm of discussion, and the moon sextile just adds a comfort and sense of ease in discussion (as well as a pretty loose DW sun-merc conjunct)

We also have a merc-pluto DW, and this really lends to some intense conversations, my pluto trines his merc, his squares mine. We definitely haven't been afraid of talking about anything with eachother.

We do also have neptune-merc opposition. Definitely adds a sort of otherworldly dreamy realm to conversation where it feels like we are interpreting something beyond the actual words that are spoken, however it can get muddled and confusing, like "am I just imagining what they said or did they actually say/mean that...?"

The one aspect that i'm curious to learn more about is my chiron conj his merc. I haven't found a lot of info on it but i've read that it may give me an ability to heal any sort of intellectual qualms or hangups he'd have, or to at least see through them, however sometimes I feel it is him doing the intellectual healing there, or perhaps a mutual thing, as his chiron conjunct my mars in 3rd.

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posted September 30, 2014 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Wow! That is so nice! I bet you must have some really interesting conversations^^
(seriously I would like to hear one!)

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posted September 30, 2014 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
We have many interesting convos . The thing that attracted me to him the most was that he wasn't afraid or opposed to talking about metaphysical subject matter. Many people in the scientific community will look at you with some side-eye when you start talking about aliens, UFOs, or astrology, but he didn't, and that meant a lot to me. He seemed interested and entertained my wacky ideas. I grew up in a household where we were taught to seek spirituality in the world through science, however alternative sciences, metaphysics etc, was looked down upon not just in my household but it seemed like everywhere I went. Many people in my age group aren't exactly interested in science either, people start to zone out once I really get into something i'm super passionate about which makes me feel shut out from my peers. To be able to talk with someone who's just as passionate (and immensely knowledgeable) about science and simultaneously open to the more arcane and mystical subjects feels immensely uplifting, enlightening and healing. Sometimes it felt like together we could solve any mystery with our minds alone.

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posted September 30, 2014 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I bet you could work out some very interesting theories indeed! And you really should also!!! - I would TOTALLY read the book haha
Having a nice mercury synastry with someone can be really interesting I bet^^
What about your mercury house overlay? What house does his and your mercury touch in your charts?

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That would be awesome! If only he had the time. Sometimes I wish I had recorded certain conversations.

posted September 30, 2014 01:39 PM            

I've both the dreaded Merc sq Merc aspect and Merc sq Saturn(kinda wide, though) with someone I like a lot.

posted September 30, 2014 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by orocairion:
Oh well, this thread was kind of depressing, lol.

I've both the dreaded Merc sq Merc aspect and Merc sq Saturn(kinda wide, though) with someone I like a lot.

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Don't worry I have Mercury sq. Mars and Mercury sq. Pluto with my current SO

We do have a few other softer aspects to help balance it out (as per my previous post) but I can see how heated topics could escalate into arguments between us if we let them. I think we're both so anti-conflict though that if we do get going on something we either agree to disagree or come to some sort of quick resolution before it escalates. He always touts how nice it is that we can "talk about things" so that must count for something. It also might help that we both have Mercury/Mars in hard aspect in our respective natal charts so we might already be used to that energy.

Don't despair! You never know how it'll play out until you let it. Astrology is a tool to help guide us, not an absolute!

posted September 30, 2014 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
This is all very interesting, thank you. Does anyone have mercury/ NN contacts in synastry or composite? How has that played out in the relationship...especially hard aspects?

I'm a very mercurial type with moon and venus in Gemini and mars and saturn in the 3rd so mental/verbal communication is very important to me.

Therefore I wonder what it would mean if someone's mercury squares my NN in addition to having positive mercurial aspects?

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This usually brings movement (like a change in location) or other Mercurial effects on the NN person. But some sort of movement (spatial) is quite common with this aspect.

posted October 01, 2014 09:44 AM            

I expect this implies that Mercury is prominent in Synastry.

posted October 01, 2014 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by meyray:
Beware of Mercury square Mars in the first synastry - it can cause heated arguments and set off pet peeves (in relation to how you express yourselves). Don't worry to much though, Mercury trine Saturn would definitely balance things out (depending on which planets are more dominant)

For me personally the most unbearable Mercury aspect is Mercury square Saturn - if you're the Saturn person you're constantly annoyed and want to censor the Mercury person; if you're the Mercury person you always feel like the Saturn person is judging you and is annoyed by you.

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posted October 01, 2014 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
No, i have Mercury square Saturn with someone and i always, always listen to him and respect what he has to say. His opinion matters. I always encourage him to engage his ideas which are brilliant in my opinion and we love talking to each other for hours. I'm Saturn.

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Pretty much the same here!.

I even try to follow any advice they might given me at some point.

posted October 01, 2014 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
It seems that Mercury and Sun are conjunct in close/karmic composites. Nearly always, or is it me noticing this selectively! I would have thought that Sun and Venus might have been conjunct instead.

I expect this implies that Mercury is prominent in Synastry.

Composite Sun conjunct Mercury could be a defining feature in very significant relationships, could it not?

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uuuh, I have this with my boyfriend Both the composite and double whammy below 1 degree in synastry! Our communication is absolutely wonderful!

posted October 01, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by orocairion:
Pretty much the same here!.

I even try to follow any advice they might given me at some point.

And I'm the Saturn person as well.

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Me three!

Natally, I have Saturn squaring Sun, Moon, and Mercury. Because me and my man's Saturns conjunct exactly, his Saturn also squares my Sun (@ 2 deg), Moon (@ 1 deg), and Mercury (@ 2 deg), AND our Mercurys square each other (@ 1 deg) in synastry. In composite though, we have a stellium of Sun, Mercury, and Venus, and unaspected Saturn in 2nd house.

He has strong Mercury I think (Virgo ascending, with Mercury-Saturn-IC conjunction). I read negative views on Mercury squares and sometimes I feel we do have some misunderstandings? But it is not big deal for us (well, at least for me) because I don't like/want to assume what wasn't said so if I have a doubt, I would rather ask him directly and get everything clarified. I've learned lessons from my super rough relationship in the past!!

I completely admire his intelligence, and definitely listens to everything he says. He is like a teacher... really caring and loving teacher. I love that I feel I can rely on him for anything. He is my rock!

posted October 01, 2014 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Me three!

Natally, I have Saturn squaring Sun, Moon, and Mercury. Because me and my man's Saturns conjunct exactly, his Saturn also squares my Sun (@ 2 deg), Moon (@ 1 deg), and Mercury (@ 2 deg), AND our Mercurys square each other (@ 1 deg) in synastry. In composite though, we have a stellium of Sun, Mercury, and Venus, and unaspected Saturn in 2nd house.

He has strong Mercury I think (Virgo ascending, with Mercury-Saturn-IC conjunction). I read negative views on Mercury squares and sometimes I feel we do have some misunderstandings? But it is not big deal for us (well, at least for me) because I don't like/want to assume what wasn't said so if I have a doubt, I would rather ask him directly and get everything clarified. I've learned lessons from my super rough relationship in the past!!

I completely admire his intelligence, and definitely listens to everything he says. He is like a teacher... really caring and loving teacher. I love that I feel I can rely on him for anything. He is my rock!

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