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Topic: Composite Chart connected to the Draconic Composite
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7790 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted October 06, 2014 01:28 PM
Comparing the Composite chart to the Draconic Composite..Do you consider it? Is it, you think, as significant, as the comparison we do between our natal charts and our Draconic charts. Kim Falconer says: Comparing Composite to Draconic Composite is shedding new light on the purpose and energy of the relationship. the Draconic chart says something about where we are headed, if we chose to reach out, and also like the South Node, it says something about where we have been, what's comforting, familiar and secure. Some think of the Draco chart as as the “purpose” behind the soul's intention and link it to a sense of destiny or fate. So, do you suppose the Draconic Composite would reveal the purpose of the relationship, especially if connected back to the regular Composite, showing the highlights and such...
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posted October 06, 2014 01:36 PM
Yes, I most certainly think so. I had a thread on this 2 years ago, as a matter of fact almost exactly 2 years ago. lol http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001419.html IP: Logged |
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posted October 06, 2014 01:36 PM
lol great idea! we shared an exact thought...IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7790 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted October 06, 2014 01:53 PM
Ceri, just read your thread. Interesting.Yeah, I am still wondering about the conection between the two chart types. Its a midpoint chart, the Composite that is, so not sure if Draconic Composite is a good source of information, but maybe a comparison is worth looking at. What do you think, LeeLoo? IP: Logged |
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posted October 06, 2014 01:59 PM
I'm gonna look at couples who stood the test of time, but since I have my charts here...I'm gonna say comparing our natals to our Draco Composite/Davison, the superpositions are impressive: Draco comp/tropical natals Venus - my Sun/Moon mdp exact his Jupiter DSC - my Venus Neptune (chart ruler here) 19 Pisces, his Sun 21 Pisces, my Sun 20 Virgo NN/Merc/Sun on his DSC and my Mars/Union Lilith 14 Taurus, Mars 14 Scorpio: our Moon cross (our Moons, my MC/IC, my Lilith, his Juno - 14-15 Fixed degree) Mars is on my MC/his Moon Juno/Ceres 7 Gem, his Mars 7 Gem, my Venus 6 Virgo, our Venus/Mars cross Jupiter/IC 18 Gem right on my Karma Eros 23 Cancer right on my Cupido and his Aphrodite and not far from my DSC Karma 16 Leo, my Moon, the same fixed cross Vertex 21 Virgo exactly on our Suns, very impressive this one, for me Amor exactly on his Vesta Saturn on my Chiron exact MC on our NN mdp exact Union on his NN (2) Pluto on my ASC Uranus on his Venus exact and Vesta on his Venus/Juno added positions in Draco Davison Davison Amor on our Pluto Davison ASC on my mercury (5th/8th ruler) exact Davison saturn on his Vesta Draco Davison IC 14 Sag, my NN 14 Sag, very impressed by this one Vesta on my ASC Vertex 0 Pisces right on his natal Jupiter Juno/Ceres 24 Gem, his natal SN 24 Gem - impressed here as well Jupiter 27 Gem, his MC/Saturn 27 Gem Venus 25 Leo, my Vertex 25 Leo, close to his his Eros/Merc mdp 23.30 Aqua (with Eros 20 aqua, Mercury 27 Aqua ------------------
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posted October 06, 2014 02:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Ceri, just read your thread. Interesting.Yeah, I am still wondering about the conection between the two chart types. Its a midpoint chart, the Composite that is, so not sure if Draconic Composite is a good source of information, but maybe a comparison is worth looking at. What do you think, LeeLoo?
That's something I never checked, but your OP explanation and Ceri's in her thread make perfect sense to me. ------------------
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posted October 06, 2014 02:10 PM
Both Draco composites (comp and Davison) should be about the composed purpose, the "destiny" of the relationship, I agree.I wonder how this is shown, but only looking at many charts would probably lead to a method. ------------------
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7790 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted October 06, 2014 02:12 PM
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posted October 06, 2014 02:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: I became curiouse about it after I looked at our Draconic Composite and discovered that our Composite Sun-Venus conjunction at 23' Gemini has moved in the Draconic chart to 14' Scorpio, which is the regular Composite DSC and Nodes. ( 14' Scorpio). In a few words - the Sun-Venus conjunction in the Draconic Composite falls on the DSC/Node in the regular Composite. So, it's like our Composite Sun-Venus conjunction relates to its own DSC angle but thru the Draconic chart. It makes a full circle - from the regular composite, it goes to the Draconic, changes the degree and sign and shoots back to the regular Composite but in a different location. Interesting, eh?Also, in the regular Composite, there is a Moon-Saturn conjunction at 5' Leo...it changes to 23' Gemini in the Draconic. And that's exactly our Sun-Venus conjunction in the regular Composite. So, the Moon-Saturn in the Draconic falls on the Sun-Venus conjunction in the regular, and at the exat same degree - 23' Gem. A full circle again.
Hahaha I think your example is so archetypal and clear, just like music, as Ceri said.
Absolutely marvelous! I see it like this: this relationship is definitely about love. Underneath the DSC (the type of the partnership) and the NN (the trajectory, the path) lies a Sun/Venus conjunction. Not to mention that Sun/Venus is on the ACTUAL NN. In other words, we go to Draco to see what is underlying, what this is all about. But...that's not all: Sun/Venus superposing with Moon/Saturn, and Moon/Saturn being the next layer (the one underneath Sun/Venus), shows us this is also a marriage, a marital relationship...probably the next stage, the next level in time and space. Interestingly, this type of "script", the temporal evolution, should be seen in comparing Davisons too.
Fantastic combo in these two charts for you! ------------------
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7790 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted October 06, 2014 02:29 PM
That makes sense, LeeLoo, the way you wrapped it up. So neat, like a Virgo can do. :-) Thank you!Draconic does seem to hightlight the purpose behind the tropical chart. It's like a personal spot light. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 13921 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2014 02:39 PM
Great Thread Orange!IP: Logged |
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posted October 06, 2014 02:59 PM
Great analysis, Leeloo! IP: Logged |
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posted October 06, 2014 03:09 PM
For us we have these superpositions:- Dr Saturn conjunct ASC 0°26 - Dr Vertex conjunct ASC 2°45 - Dr Pluto conjunct Ceres 1°07 - Dr Uranus conjunct SN 0°50 - Dr Uranus opposite Mars 1°32 - Dr Uranus opposite Amor and Cupido as well - Dr Eros and Dr Priapus therefore conjunct Mars, NN, Amor and Cupido - Dr Juno conjunct Chiron 0°43 (Dr Valentine and Lust are conjunct Chiron and Atropos as well) - Dr Jupiter conjunct Juno 2°24 - Dr Jupiter conjunct IC 3°06 - Dr Neptune conjunct Juno (2) - Dr mercury conjunct Lilith (2) - Dr Venus opposite Sun (1) - Dr Sun conjunct Jupiter (5) - Dr Moon on the antiscion of Sun and widely opposite - Dr MC conjunct Mars (which is the SN-ruler! and is on NN anyway, seems there is work to do) IP: Logged |
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posted October 06, 2014 03:13 PM
And in DAvisonDr Saturn opposite Moon (1) Dr Juno conjunct SN (2) DR ASC conjunct Lilith (4) Dr ASC conjunct Jupiter (4) dr Chiron conjuunct Pluto (1) Dr Mars conjunct NN (4) Dr Venus conjunct NN (2) our Venus-Mars-conjunction ends up on the NN. lol Dr Moon oppospite Sun (1) IP: Logged |
ueharaa Knowflake Posts: 784 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted October 06, 2014 04:02 PM
Yes the draco composite can be rather impressive especially when you compare it to tropical natal charts. Comparing draco composite to the tropical could definitely highlight the main energy of the realtionshipI really lack words when it comes to draco, it's like I get what they are but can't explain it so thus ends up being just confused. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6729 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2014 07:25 PM
Absolutely.Since one of my relationships, which has taken greater significance in recent years, is intrinsically karmic and requiring great balancing and resolution, I've found that the biggest context clues lie within the Draconic synastry. Likewise, the Draconic composite is a karmic mirror, outlining and detailing our 'recent history', which is an active undercurrent in the tropical composite. In fact, it's become an extension of everything. I never used Draco so heavily until recently, and it has been wildly illuminating. Now my methodology incorporates it as a matter of course. I'm glad, actually. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6729 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2014 07:33 PM
Oh, and as Ceri was indicating, superimpositions, in my view, are really superpositions. To borrow from quantum principles, is existing, in part in many locations -- or, in this case -- timelines. Its 'base' or 'home state' being what's represented in the tropical placements.I tend to incorporate the Uranians if I get too many of them popping up; a clear indication there's some karma which is recurring across more than a single timeline. If a possible Soulmate connexion, I took to CUPIDO, and for the more deeply-rooted karma and patterns which need to change in the present, I look to HADES. This is just my method, mind, but I have found it to hold some merit. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 07, 2014 10:51 AM
What if the draconic composite has exactly the same angles like the standard composite and they're even conjunct?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
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posted October 07, 2014 11:12 AM
Then the NN would probably close the Ariespoint. (00 cardinal)IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 13921 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2014 01:07 PM
I have actually not found much connections from GT composite to Draco composite but have definitely found connections from Draco composite to my Geo Tropical Natal. Draco composite to natals with Husband:
Composite Mercury and Mars conjunct exact my natal Northnode. Composite Sun conjuncts exact my natal AC Composite Juno opposes exact my natal Sun Composite Uranus conjuncts exact my natal nessus. Composite venus conjuncts exact my natal Juno. Composite Pluto conjuncts his natal moon by one orb. Composite mercury and mars conjunct exact his Psyche. Composite Jupiter conjuncts his natal Moon by 4 orbs. -------------------------------
Draco composite to natals with Ex: Composite Priapus conjuncts exact my natal moon Composite Uranian Hades conjuncts exact his natal Southnode Composite Karma conjuncts exact my natal Northnode Composite asteroid cupido conjuncts exact his natal venus, juno and pluto and my natal asteroid venusia and natal venus-AC midpoint. Composite lilith and neptune conjunct his natal Isis and my natal Priapus. Composite pallas is in scorpio at 11 11 Composite juno is in aries at 9 11 17 (911, 11/17 is his B-day) Composite Juno sesquisquares uranus which is the reaction point of a YOD involving chiron in the 7th at the apex. Composite Chariklo trines my natal sun exact Composite moon opposes by one orb my natal chiron Composite venus conjuncts my chiron by 3 orbs This is weird: composite dr with EX involving Sun-Mars-Pluto squares my husband's sun and conjuncts my husband's moon.
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posted June 27, 2015 07:57 AM
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alegna Knowflake Posts: 172 From: uk Registered: Jan 2014
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posted June 27, 2015 11:07 AM
What would it signify if two peoples nodal axes are conjunct in natal synastry? So the draco comp is identical to the natal? What would the karmic significance be?IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6729 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 27, 2015 06:11 PM
Absolutely. It's kind of a karmic checkup. How much potential have you given each other in the present (tropical) to achieve the goals you have on a soul-level (Draconic) in terms of contracts, obligations, deeply cherished intentions, and so on.IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7790 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 27, 2015 06:34 PM
to repeat myself from another thread,IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6729 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 27, 2015 06:34 PM
Truth be told, my boyfriend and I really don't have much in the way of cross-aspects from the tropical to the Draco. Ergo, we've not given each other much potential in this relationship to attain greater soul evolution. All we really have is: 06º CAN 53 | dMOON (mine) 07º CAN 17 | cSATURN 08º CAN 28 | cdPLUTO 08º CAN 32 | SUN (his) 09º CAN 15 | LACHESIS (mine) All operating across the cd12H and the c9H. Ohhh, brother. Upon seeing that, I knew that further inspecting the Draco-tropical composites was going to be a vain search. In all likelihood, we weren't moving forwards as much as we were going backwards. And there's only one way to see what's going on there. And ... BULLSEYE. Anybody order csKARMA conjunct the cASC (0º)? How about cSATURN conjunct csPSYCHE-MADHATTER (0º)? No? Just us? Well, I'm not all that surprised! Whew! Man. Well, there's a bright-side, I suppose. The cdSUN is 0º conjunct csNNODE. Progress! Man, we make karma look 'en vogue' or something. 'C'mon! Everybody's doing it!' I've always been a little alarmed by our csVERTEX at 0º ARIES ... which the csCHIRON right there on his CHIRON at 29º PISCES. 'Famous for our painfully transformative relationship' ? You ain't just whistlin' Dixie. Huh. Well, then! Anyone else finding their sidereal composites are far more linked-up to their tropical composites? Or is it just us? Heh! IP: Logged | |