posted October 14, 2014 01:07 PM            

Anyway, while Sun-Venus progressions are often present, a relationship can also manifest with other progressions, usually involving Sun and/or ASC, giving people the opportunity to meet. Sometimes even Vertex, though that might be a sudden unexpected meeting, something you jsut donīt see coming, but it sure turns your world upside down.

however if you have something like Sun-ASC in the progressions, you will need some Venus and/or Mars progression as well.

That is the beautiful thing about Sun-Venus, you can kill two birds with one stone; Sun giving you the opportunity to meet and Venus infusing you with the inclination to relate more personally to each other.

posted October 14, 2014 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yes, but I didn't list them since they were minor aspects.

I'll have my Pr. Venus sextile n. Sun 1' s and he'll have Pr. Venus semisquare Pr. Sun 2' a

I feel ready too.

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posted October 14, 2014 02:41 PM            

My Dad was having a Sun-Venus-progression:

his pVenus conjunct his nSun 1°40a
with a bit of ASC-link
his pVenus trine pASC 0°44 s

plus

pJuno conjunct pASC 0°17 a

He was also having an applying progressed New Moon, coming into exactness over the next half year

pMoon conjunct pSun 6°49 a

So he was a picture perfect candidate for relationship-progressions (Sun-Venus, Sun-Moon, angle-activation)

However my mom, wasn`t.

There was no Sun-Venus-progression in her chart

There was no Sun-Moon-progression (4th harmonic) in her chart either; she was however having what I am calling "responsive progression", as her pMoon was square nMoon (1°53a)

And another "responsive" and "primal" progression, in the form of her pMars applying to conjunct nMoon (2°45 a), though still a bit far away.

As for the angle-activation

her pDESC was separating from a trine to pMars (0°47 s)

More importantly though her pSaturn applying to an exact square to nASC (0°22a).

Usually I would see that as a bit of critical, Saturn squares to relationship-planets, however in her case Saturn rules the natal DESC.

Oh and just for my personal enjoyment, she ALSO was having a Venus-Jupiter-progression.
her pVenus separating from an exact opposition to nJupiter (0°43 s).
And in her case, as well, Jupiter rules an angle, her Pisces-MC.

also as a random note her pVertex was conjunct her nJuno (1°08a), right on my Dad`s natal IC. lol

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Anyway I just wanted to say that while my Dad had the conventionally anticipated progressions, my mother had not, and yet she met my Dad and started a relationship with him.

However I do think though that she was having some other very strong and relevant progressions that made her receptive to a building relationship.

posted October 14, 2014 03:54 PM            

He recently told me, (as in, on my birthday) that he 'would never have even fathomed being in such a situation -- let alone, A Relationship, if I weren't so completely wonderful'. He then amended, 'for which, I should add, I have no small amount of resentment, you know. It isn't nice to take a total loner and refuse them their usual 'evacuative measures.''

I laughed. 'You know that I have a terrible sticking point about your having to feel 'committed' in any way to this.'

He just said, 'Oh, the damage is done, dear. You just have to allow me the occasional bitterness over stated fact.'

posted October 15, 2014 05:38 PM            

I'm interested to know if asteroids Union, Unitas and Liebe were doing anything at the time of their meeting, via transit, progression, progressed composite, or solar arc?

And if you can, can you please check to see if you and Mr. Sag had these asteroids prominent too?

Everyone else can check their charts as well. I have a theory that they may signify a potential meeting.

posted October 15, 2014 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Yeah, Ceri.

He recently told me, (as in, on my birthday) that he 'would never have even fathomed being in such a situation -- let alone, A Relationship, if I weren't so completely wonderful'. He then amended, 'for which, I should add, I have no small amount of resentment, you know. It isn't nice to take a total loner and refuse them their usual 'evacuative measures.''

I laughed. 'You know that I have a terrible sticking point about your having to feel 'committed' in any way to this.'

He just said, 'Oh, the damage is done, dear. You just have to allow me the occasional bitterness over stated fact.'

And that, folks, is apparently how two schizoids find themselves in a relationship together.

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posted October 15, 2014 06:04 PM            

Tr Liebe 16 Aqua
Tr Mars 15 Aqua
Tr NN 14 Aqua

right on their composite DESC on 14 Leo

Tr Union conjunct their c-Mercury on 15 Sag exact, trine their c-ASC

Tr Unitas conjunct their c-IC by one degree

pr c-Sun opposite c-Liebe (1)
pr c-Venus conjunct c-Union exact

posted October 17, 2014 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interesting in my parent`s case

Tr Liebe 16 Aqua
Tr Mars 15 Aqua
Tr NN 14 Aqua

right on their composite DESC on 14 Leo

Tr Union conjunct their c-Mercury on 15 Sag exact, trine their c-ASC

Tr Unitas conjunct their c-IC by one degree

pr c-Sun opposite c-Liebe (1)
pr c-Venus conjunct c-Union exact

something like that?

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posted October 17, 2014 06:12 AM            

His LIEBE is on his Moon-MC exact and conjuncts my Sun by 2 degrees; it is also more closely conjunct my triplet of SEKHMET-REIKI-CIRCE on 27 Sagittarius (I think TESLA is somewhere nearby as well).

I just love the fact that his LIEBE is ocnjunct my Sun.

his UNITAS conjunct my JUNO exact; my UNITAS sextiles his Jupiter with just onder one degree, and his MARS very exactly. his UNITAS also trines my Saturn and LANCELOT exact. Grand trine in water.
my UNITAS sextiles his ARTHUR-MERLIN-CASANOVA on my GUINEVERE-SPIRIT-ADELAIDE exact.

As for LIEBE, well in my chart it conjuncts AMOR and trines my PRIAPUS on 00 Leo exact.
LIEBE herself is on the midpoint of my VALENTINE on 27 Scorpio and AMOR on 2 Sagittarius, both in 12th house - so my love-symbols are all hunched together there. lol

it squares his true BML on 28 Leo and NN on 1 Virgo and also his Priapus on 00 Pisces, and also squares my true BML on 28 Aquarius, which simply means it is on the midpoint of our BML-opposition as well as his BML/Priapus-midpoint. Since it squares his nodal axis it represents a skipped step for him, falling into his 8th house.

his LIEBE is in his 10th house (and my 1st house), and conjuncts his MC. It trines his own BML exact, and sextiles our BML/Priapus-conjunction on his SN.

Anyway our first meeting chart had LIEBE on 3 Taurus (The Pot Of Gold At The End Of The Rainbow), making a Grand trine with

Moon 1 Capricorn
Pluto 0 Capricorn
and
Saturn 2 Virgo

Tr LIEBE is near our composite Chiron (29 Aries), ATROPOS (0 Taurus)

Tr UNITAS on 3 Pisces as well as Tr CUPIDO on 2.59 Cancer also related to the Moon-Pluto-Saturn-Liebe Grand trine in earth signs.

Tr LIEBE is also interesting in that it fell upon his natal VESTA exactly and conjunct my 5th hous cusp, opposing my Uranus, and my pr Moon had just entered Taurus, applying to a first quarter Moon in my progressions.

Tr UNION on 23 Taurus was trine Jupiter on 22 Cap and sextile Uranus on 22 Pisces.
Also fell onto our composite Juno on 22 Taurus, and activated the Wedge formation of:

Juno: 22 Taurus
Alma: 20 Taurus

Lust: 22 Scorpio
Angel: 22 Scorpio
Valentine 23 Scorpio

Moon: 22 Cap

Ceres: 23 Pisces
Isis: 24 Pisces

Currently we have

pr c LIEBE on 29 Sagittarius
pr c UNITAS on 29 Capricorn

hence they will change signs before long, a change is imminent.

pr cLiebe of course is separating from a conjunction to our c-Sun (it was exact when we met), and pr cUNITAS applies to a conjunction with our c-ASC on 1 Aquarius.

his pr Moon currently trines my p LIEBE exact

my pr UNION trines his p Venus (1) but also opposes his Chiron (1)

Oh and conjuncts his natal LUST, which is also conjunct his own pUNION, as our UNIONS seem to still be within one degree orb of each other

his pr UNITAS applies to conjunction with my natal IC (3a) which means it is still with my pr Juno, though te orb is wider than the natal one (1-2)

his p LIEBE conjunct my pASC (2 degrees - not sure if applying or separating).

his p LIEBE also opposes my p Saturn exact (so it seems it is me doing the most resisting. lol)

Oh it seems my pASC is actually applying to his pLIEBE; so it is a future thing.
however the pLIebe-pSaturn is also applying, and nearing exatness now, so that blockage coming from me might still be there. On the other hand my pSaturn also represents my progressed ASC-ruler on my progressed DESC, so it could also denote to my sincerity when it comes to relationships as of now.

this pLIEBE (his)-pASC(Mine) will peak in june 2018.

At that same time he is going to have an exact trine between pSun and pMoon on 6 Aquarius-Gemini.
plus his pASC on 7.°42 Gemini just separating from the conjunction to my natal DESC on 7°06 Gemini, and also his pMoon applying to exact conjunction to his pASC and my natal DESC.

he is also going to have pVenus on 13 Pisces opposing pMars on 14 Virgo, which is sextile/trine my pASC on 14 Capricorn. plus his pVenus will be caught between my natal Jupiter on 11 PIsces and natal Juno on 16 Pisces.

the conjunction of his pVenus to my natal Jupiter seems important also because it represents his natal intercepted 7th house ruler applying to my natal ASC-ruler.

interestingly as his pMoon applies to my nDESC (0°51a), so does mine!
my pMoon applying to a conjunction to his nDESC (1°52 a - might even be a bit closer).

Which of course means that pMoon (pr composite) at that time having just entered 00 Leo will be applying to a conjunction with the composite dESC on 1 Leo.
pr c MC will be exact on the composite Sun.

pr composite Moon just being some months way from opposing composite Sun- hence a progressed composite fullmoon in the waiting.

So first the Moon triggers the DESC, then there is also a MC-Sun-conjunction, and the progressed fullmoon happening in january 2019, on 8 Leo-Aquarius (reminding me of my natal progressed fullmoon next year, happening on 7 Leo-Aquarius)

PR composite Venus just having starting trining pr c Mars by 3 degrees applying, and both of us in a Venus-Mars-cycle, as m pMars conjunct my nVenus (0°53s) and his pMars opposing his pVenus (0°36 a)

posted October 17, 2014 06:22 AM            

So that means:

2015:
my pr Moon opposing pr Sun 7 Leo-Aquarius

2019
pr composite Moon opposing pr c Sun 8 Leo-Aquarius

2023
his pr Moon opposing pr Sun 11 Leo-Aquarius.

posted October 17, 2014 06:35 AM            

This is easily verifiable with the many fated charts we share with dead celebs we are attracted to.

At least that's my opinion right now.

I had to say it because I don't want you to think I either encourage or discourage you to believe there's a meeting written in the chart.

So those hypothetical markers would be:

for your chart:

the angle/vertices double connection
the Juno aspects

with the oppositions (Sun opp mars/Neptune, Moon opp Pluto and Merc/Venus - intercepted 7th) and the 11th house involvement from your chart, it looks like it would be a meeting on a ideal plane with a strong emotional impact, perhaps from a distance, like meeting someone you admire from a distance, rather than actually meeting and interacting with him.

For him, apart from NN transiting n Venus and Vertex approaching Juno, I don't see much happening, maybe if the meeting takes place a bit later. However, with n Venus opp Pallas transited by Uranus NN that time may bring him a meeting with this Venus/Pallas woman he craves.

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posted October 18, 2014 02:20 AM            

Your and Mr. Sag's aspects are just beautiful
Thanks for sharing.

We also have an exact Union-Union conjunction and Link-Link conjunction in our synastry. I guess we have that in common cause in both our cases we have a 5-year difference with them, and these asteroids have a 5 year return period.

This Union-Union conjunction falls on my n. Mercury (0), Eros (2), and his natal Valentine (0)

In the composite it doesn't really do anything but is quincunx the Desc exact.

My Unitas conjuncts his MC (1), opposes his Karma (1) and trines his Mercury (1)
His Unitas conjuncts my Venus (2), Kaali (1), Juno (3) and sextiles my Vertex (0)

Composite Unitas conjuncts Moon-Mars (1), falling on my n. Asc (1) and opposing n. Vertex (1)

His Liebe-Vertex falls on my natal Desc exact.
My Liebe opposes his natal Venus exact

Composite Liebe is quincunx Mars-Chiron (1), sextile Neptune (0) and opposite his natal Sun/Moon mp (1.5')

At the time of our "maybe meeting" in mid-January, Pr. Comp Liebe will be conjunct/parallel Desc (0) and Venus (0)
Pr. Comp Liebe will also come into an exact opposition with his n. Sun/Moon mp.

I love this asteroid lol.

Its especially funny since he talks about "Liebe" a lot haha

Also at the time of our "maybe-meeting", Pr. Comp Union will conjunct Sun (1) and his n. Juno (0)

posted October 18, 2014 02:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW he will also have a progressed fullmoon in Leo-Aquarius in the future.

So that means:

2015:
my pr Moon opposing pr Sun 7 Leo-Aquarius

2019
pr composite Moon opposing pr c Sun 8 Leo-Aquarius

2023
his pr Moon opposing pr Sun 11 Leo-Aquarius.

Intersting, isn`t it?

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Wow that is amazing!!

posted October 18, 2014 02:53 AM            

Thank you so much for taking the time to do the reading.

"I had to say it because I don't want you to think I either encourage or discourage you to believe there's a meeting written in the chart."

No its ok, I totally understand.

I'm keeping an open mind about this and trying not to cling or attach to any possible outcome.

Besides, I'm going for the event first and foremost, it wasn't my plan to go there for him, I didn't even know the event will be held in his city.

But weather we meet or not, I'll still make sure to enjoy my time there and make the most of it.

"with the oppositions (Sun opp mars/Neptune, Moon opp Pluto and Merc/Venus - intercepted 7th) and the 11th house involvement from your chart, it looks like it would be a meeting on a ideal plane with a strong emotional impact, perhaps from a distance, like meeting someone you admire from a distance, rather than actually meeting and interacting with him."

This makes sense. Actually if I met him I don't know if I'll be able to walk up to him to strike up a convo. It would just be weird, I'm not like that lol. I'm pretty shy and reserved in public.

I feel though intuitively that we may meet but it will be very brief and quick. We might just see one another and that's it. I'll go about my day and he will go about his. But we shall see what happens lol.

"For him, apart from NN transiting n Venus and Vertex approaching Juno, I don't see much happening, maybe if the meeting takes place a bit later. However, with n Venus opp Pallas transited by Uranus NN that time may bring him a meeting with this Venus/Pallas woman he craves."