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Topic: Relationship Cycles and Progressions
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 28, 2014 02:04 PM
I did that to check if there are overlapping cycle, and indeed there are June 15 -------- my pMoon opposite pSun (FULLMOON) his pMoon trine nSun (waxing)
me: active relationship cycle of completion him: passive waxing relationship cycle November 15 -------------- A) my pMoon opposite nMoon his pMoon trine nMoon
me: active resonance cycle of completion him: passive waxing resonance cycle gliding into
november 15- february 16 -------------------------- my pMoon opposite nMoon his pMoon square pSun (FIRST QUARTER me: active resonance cycle of completion him: active waxing relationship cycle (First Quarter Moon) June-August 18 ---------------- my pMoon square nSun his pMoon trine nSun
me: active waning relationship cycle him: passive waning relationship cycle November 19 - march 20 -------------------------- my pMoon trine nMoon his pMoon opposite nSun
me: passive waning resonance cycle him: active relationship cycle IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 28, 2014 02:25 PM
Looking at my parents`s cycle from the time they met to their marriage (3 years) my Mom`s cycles ------------------
august - december 1971 pMoon square nSun 28 Gemini-Virgo january - may 1972 pMoon trine nSun 3 Cancer - Scorpio
november 73- april 74 pMoon trine pSun 25 Cancer - Scorpio february - june 74 pMoon sextile nMoon 28 Cancer - Virgo july - november 74 pMoon square nSun 3 Leo - Scorpio
my Dad`s ---------
january - may 72 pMoon conjunct pSun (New Moon) 27 Aquarius april - august 72 pMoon sextile nSun 1 Pisces - Taurus all 74 pSun sextile nMoon 1 Pisces-Taurus
overlapping cycles ----------------------
january-may 72 her pMoon trine nSun his pMoon conjunct pSun (Full Moon) - this was of course about 6 months after they met, I could imagine that is when they knew this was going to work out for a longer time; possibly the applying New Moon as also felt in advance, and of course I did not check the midpoints february - april 74 -------------------
her pMoon trine pSun her pMoon sextile nMoon his pSun sextile nMoon and more importantly
july-november 74 ------------------- (their honeymoon, and of course I was born in december that year) her pMoon square nSun his pSun sextile nMoon
But also pay attention to the degrees, as there are some aspects in 72: Dad`s pr New Moon on the solstice of Mom`s n Sun (reflecting their Moon-Sun-opposition in natal synastry)
in 74: her pMoon applying to an opposition with his nSun on 5 Aquarius, hence he was docking in onto her active relationship cycle.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 28, 2014 02:39 PM
So the degrees for Mr Sag`s and my overlapping cycles June 15 -------- my pMoon opposite pSun (FULLMOON) 7 Leo - Aquarius
his pMoon trine nSun (waxing) 26 Aries - Sagittarius November 15 -------------- A) my pMoon opposite nMoon 17 Leo - Aquarius
his pMoon trine nMoon 28 Aries - Sagittarius gliding into
november 15- february 16 -------------------------- my pMoon opposite nMoon 17 Leo - Aquarius his pMoon square pSun (FIRST QUARTER 3 Taurus - Aquarius June-August 18 ---------------- my pMoon square nSun 26 Virgo - Sagittarius his pMoon trine pSun 6 Gemini - Aquarius November 19 - march 20 -------------------------- my pMoon trine nMoon 17 Libra - Aquarius
his pMoon opposite nSun 27 Gemini - Sagittarius most linking factors is actually my n Sun on 26 Sagittarius
and there is an intriguing occurence in 2018 my pMoon on 26 Virgo conjunct his nDESC on 25 Virgo his pMoon on 6 Gemini conjunct my nDESC on 7 Gemini of course that HAS to be reflected in the composite, so in july 2018 we have:
pr c-Moon 1°24 Leo n c-DESC 1°22 Leo additionally
pr c-ASC 26°17 Pisces pr c-MC 26°57 Sagittarius n c-Sun 26°26 Sagittarius so progressed c-Moon being made angular on the composite DESC composite Sun being made angular on the progressed composite MC There will be a lot of light and illumination I suppose. lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 28, 2014 05:51 PM
The other biggies are these:2 degree orb my pMars conjunct nVenus: feb 15 - july 20 his pVenus opposite nMars: feb 15 - may 18 and his pVenus opposite pMars: january 18 - december 20 It amazes me that these individual progressions overlap so precisely (his is lasting some months longer than mine though Since it s a rather long time period, it probably would be interesting to see if
a) the progressed Moon is activating Venus and Mars, especially my pMars/nVenus and his pVenus/nMars/pMars b) if these lunar progressions to Venus and/ or Mars overlap at certain times. Well the end of 2015/ beginning of 2016 already looked interesting in terms of the Sun/Moon-cylce as this is when his progressed First Quarter Moon will happen, and my pMoon will oppose my natal Moon
At the same time, of course the cycles of my pMars-nVenus and his pVenus-nMars will overlap as well - so it seems a good idea to have a more thorough check of 2016 and its progressions. At the end of January (when his First quarter Moon is peaking and my opposition of pMoon to pBML and nMoon will be just one degree separating), progressed composite Moon on 26 Gemini will oppose natal composite Sun on 26 Sagittarius, and the progressed composite Moon will just have passed pr composite IC about six weeks before. Obviously that means that the progressed composite Moon will apply to an opposition with his natal Sun/Moon-mp
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 26, 2016 11:00 AM
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Dancing Maenad Moderator Posts: 3452 From: The Harvest Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 26, 2016 11:59 AM
I'm about to go on a passive Sun-Moon (sextile) in a few months. Scorpio guy is coming into a Moon-Venus conjunction and later a Mars-Venus conjunction. Venus is his DC ruler. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 26, 2016 12:05 PM
I haven`t really followed these thoughts further, but I am inclined to do so. Well, I had my parents dating dates wrong, they met in 1970, not 1971. I`ve just had my pMoon opposing nMoon (1 degree separating by now) and it was interestingly intense.
Anyway, it`s funny how I zoomed in on january/february 2016, 2 years ago.
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Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted January 27, 2016 05:23 AM
Hm this is strange, but interesting. When I began my current relationship, there was no Sun-Moon cycle present for me. But I did have a double Venus-Mars cycle: pr. Venus trine n. Mars 1° s pr. Mars square n. Venus 1° a For him it's its the other way around lol. He had no Venus-Mars, but a double Sun-Moon cycle: pr. Sun square n. Moon 0° a pr. Moon semisquare n. Sun 1° a Those aspects are still active since we've been together for a little over a month now. But now his pr. Moon semisquare n. Sun is exactly applying. ^_^
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17358 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 27, 2016 05:41 AM
Ahh yes, one of the brilliant threads My progressed themes right now my nSun 20.23 Virgo pMoon appl to nAvx the interesting pSaturn, my nDSC being 19 Cancer, and nSaturn 17 Cancer BUT Saturn is peregrine in the progressed chart and our impressive progressed composite Themes: the Cardinal Cross coupled with the Fire Air Pluto Kite Jupiter/Saturn exact trine and Mercury/Uranus exact square, on the Vertex axis, I wonder how this one will play out, it looks very dynamic IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 3809 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 27, 2016 11:08 AM
Lee, let me know how the cardinal grand cross is going to play out in your progressed composite. I am going to have this in our progressed composite in about a year time, it looks mighty engaged. btw, I noticed that when a couple separates, there are often some Inconjunctions going on in the progressed composite, usually involving Saturn and Sun, Moon or Venus. Not squares, not oppositions, but inconjunctions. The progressed composite charts ive seen usually doesnt look too stressed, surprisingly. Very often there is a stressful aspect between Saturn and Pluto. I've been looking at progressed composites for quite some time now. our upcoming ( not current) progressed composite. In our regular Composite chart, the Moon and the Saturn conjuncts at 4' Leo. See how all the action gets there, including the progressed c Sun arriving on top of it. grr IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 27, 2016 11:54 AM
Wow you will buzzing and flirring like dynamos with all that energy generated!IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17358 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 27, 2016 01:06 PM
ahhh yes I'll let you know...wow, excellent fixed cross! only Mars looks a little unpredictable.We have the Saturn/Pluto sq in the composite anyway because we are born in the same year, when this sq was applying, so I have it with almost everyone in my generation, it's a generation sq for me. The quincuxes in this progressed chart are actually part of a very neat trapezoid House formation. In my experience, closed geometric structures indicate stability and high energetic peaks, but experienced together. When these geometrical structures are disrupted, or with chaotic large orbs ones, that's when you have moments when the relationship experiences challenges. This cross can even be literal for you, if you two move in together. The cross is generally an enclosed, stable, fixed structure, very much like a shelter or a house. It stands for the Foundation. And so is any closed house-type structure in fact (including the Castle). In your case, notice this cross actually "sits" in the house, with the cardinal placement by houses. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 3809 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 27, 2016 01:36 PM
Yes, the Mars stays quiet in the corner over there, but the chart is soooo charged. Will see...In your progressed composite, the saturn-pluto is past the influence, it has separated and its not even applicable so nothing to worry about. The ones ive seen were applying by a close orb. The inconjunctions i observed were usually between Saturn and Sun-Moon-Venus, applying aspects. You dont have any of this. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17358 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 27, 2016 01:44 PM
Yes, I agree with you, sis, quincunxes are eventful by definition and Saturn is always sticking his dirty old tail in breakups Do you have Saturn conj ASC in your regular composite? That's a "delayed" (or even a "wall") aspect, but when and if it happens to get together, it's hard to break it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 27, 2016 03:15 PM
I checked the progressed composite for Mr Sag and his ex-girlfriend when they broke up. There were hardly any aspects at all, and those who were were "blue". I guess it was pretty amicable. The progressed composite was just having a New Moon (short before the conj. was exact) The thing that was very noteable though was this
Pluto 29°28 Libra Mars 1°58 Scorpio Saturn 3°12 Scorpio (trine to Mercury on 00 Pisces though) Possibly it was more about what was not there.
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 3809 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 27, 2016 04:39 PM
ceri, yes, I said before that I was surprised to find out that most of the charts ( progressed composite) that I checked, didn't show much stress or tensions at the time of separation, rarely any hard aspects at all. hmmm IP: Logged |
Neptunian Venus Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted January 27, 2016 05:45 PM
Do you guys think transits of Sun-Moon and Venus-Mars cycles can also act as catalysts to begin a relationship? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 28, 2016 01:36 AM
No, not if it is ONLY Tr Sun or Tr Moon aspecting something. However if there are major other slower transits in play, they can act as timer to bring a certain configuration to the forefront. Quotidian angles and the pr Moon as well as tp Moon are great timers as well (in 4th harmonic aspects to luminaries, angles, or the vital configurations that are "due" ) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 28, 2016 01:38 AM
Orange, I guess when the break up is manifesting or being done, it is just the end of an development, most probably there will have been more challenges phases leading up to this. Also there are different scenarios leading to a break up. it`s not always major fights, sometimes it is also the feeling that there is not much sense in it anymore, boredom or simply a lack of feeling connection (and being discontent about it). IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 17358 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 28, 2016 01:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Orange, I guess when the break up is manifesting or being done, it is just the end of an development, most probably there will have been more challenges phases leading up to this. Also there are different scenarios leading to a break up. it`s not always major fights, sometimes it is also the feeling that there is not much sense in it anymore, boredom or simply a lack of feeling connection (and being discontent about it).
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 3809 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 28, 2016 12:30 PM
Yep, hence the inconjunctions.... Uncomfortable Adjustments to something newIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 28, 2016 12:34 PM
Yep, makes total sense to me, too.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23729 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 28, 2016 01:00 PM
BTW it`s almost funny but when you mentioned it I was checking Mr Sag`s and my pr composite for a certain time (not that we ever had a relationship. lol), interestingly we sort of "re-connected" just after pr Moon had separated by about 2 degrees from a square to the Saturn.The worst time actually had been - for me at least- with pr c-Moon applying square to pr c-Saturn (2°18) - pointing to a point 2 months later, which WAS actually when it got better. lol But I was having ahard time anyway, as my grandmother was passing away within that timeframe, too (my own pr ASC was square pr Pluto, with pr Moon on my pr DESC and Tr Pluto conjnct pr ASC and square pr Pluto - oh yeah, the joy! ) pr c-Moon had also been quinkunx pr c-Neptune just 2 months prior, and heading towards pr c-MC 2 months after that.
But the thing that completely gobsmacked me when I first saw it, was that THAT week/ night there was sa c-Pluto on 21°49 Scorpio square c-Saturn on 21°49 Leo
That just completely blasted me out of orbit, speaking as an astrologer Well I have not looked up the directed composites for a long time, but just saw this currently:
sa c- Pluto on 24°33 Scorpio c-Vertex on 24°59 Leo - which means this will peak in about 5 months
the sa c-NN has JUST changed signs (0°06 Sagittarius, which I like. lol)
sa c-MC on 25°58 Sagittarius conjunct c-Sun on 26°27 Sagittarius (peak: in 5-6 months)
sa c-Lilith on 15°35 Capricorn conjunct c-Venus on 16°01 Capricorn (peak: in about 5 months) and *sighs* of course LIlith again! lol sa c-Lilith on 15°35 Capricorn has JUST squared c-Pluto on 15°14 Libra (leading back about 4 months into the past) sa c-Venus on 25°21 Aqua having conjuncted c-Avx on 24°59 Aqua (also, about 4-5 months prior) sa c-ASC on 10°39 Pisces square c-Jupiter on 11°41 Gemini (peak: like NOW - ad next month .lol)
sa c-Jupiter on 20°01 Cancer square c-NN on 20°46 Libra (peak in about 9 months)
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 3809 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted January 28, 2016 01:07 PM
Even thou I am starting to lose my interest in progressed composites now....I just checked Khloe kardashian - Lamar Odom progressed for the time they separated due to him cheating, and apparently it was very heartbreaking for both, but the progressed composite shows nothing, nada...IP: Logged |