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Ceridwen
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posted October 15, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The talk about the Sun-Moon-cycle got me thinking. While Sun-Moon is the very basic one, I was thinking that there might be other cycles being important in terms of relationships.

Sun-Moon
Venus-Mars
r1-r7

but also
Sun-Venus
Moon-Mars
possibly r5-r11

Those combine Yin-Yang-energies with each other and hence are about relating.


I am basically talking about the cycles int he progressed chart itself, but the aspects from progressed to natal might be important as well. In fact I am convinced they are important, but maybe a little less than the progressed cycle. Not sure about that yet though.


About the aspects, I would differentiate between the 4th harmonic aspects and the soft ones.
Both seem to come up when we get ready for a relationship, however, I would call


conjunction - opposition - square "ACTIVE"
and
sextile - trine "PASSIVE"

With that I mean that with the active aspects we feel that inner urgency that pushes us to actively seek out union (though some times there may be a kind of projection going on).

With the passive aspects, there might still be a resonance, but we will not go about it actively; however if an "offer" will be presented to us, we might very well reciprocrate or accept it.

For example I am in a passive Sun-Venus-cycle from progressed to natal at the moment, as my pVenus is sextile nSun.
While I am not really actively searching for love and attraction and appreciation or even pushing for it, it seems to find me in subtle ways, in the form of appreciation and compliments and so on, and I am definitely open to receive some of it.
But it is not as intense as it would be if I were in a Venus-Sun-conjunction I guess.
(though I do believe the fact my natal Moon is right on the midpoint of pSun/Venus might have a little say in this as well).


Apart from these I think there are other cycles as well. I call these

1) Expressivity-cycle:
Sun-Mars
(and Sun-Sun, Mars-Mars, r1-r1 etc.)

dominating Yang energies, we create, we do something with it,g et active, but not necessarily relate to someone


2) Receptivity cycle
Moon-Venus
(moon-moon, venus-venus, r7-r7)

Great for emotional intimacy, receptive to love possibly, but not very active about it

While the relationship cycles already combine Yin-Yang, I do believe something I call RESPONSIVE CYCLES might be important as well, especially if we compare two charts with each other, checking what cycles are present for them.


Probably every relationship cycle has several responsive cycle. For example:

Sun-Moon: Sun-Sun, Moon-Moon
and so on

apart from that of course the double complements are very interesting as well, like

Sun-Venus: Moon-Mars
etc.

for me the primary cycles are Sun-Moon and Venus-Mars, as they combine the Yin-Yang pairing of the corepersonality/ emotional dimension and the sexual dimension with each other.

however the secondary ones will not be less important, just different in that they combine a corepersonality factor with a sexual one.

Sun-Venus however is an attraction or love-cycle for sure.
Moon-Mars seems more primal, and primarily about emotional passion, instinct etc.

Ruler of 1st and 7th house are those of natural partnering, relating.
5th and 11th have to do with the expressing and receiving of love and attraction.


It might be interesting to check which cycles are when present in a couple. if you compare the progressed individual charts side by side (not ven doing synastry at that point).
Just checking what is going on in each one`s life at a given point in time?
Do they have overlapping same or similiar relationship cycles?
If not does one have a relationship cycle, and the other a responsive one?
Are both in an active cycle, or is one in an active one, the other in a passive one?
If not the same cycles do they complement each other?
(like in the case of my parents; who when they met had a pVenus-nSun and pMars-nMoon respectively, plus a pSun-Moon along with a pMoon-nMoon responsive cycle).


After that check up, which probably takes a while. lol. I think it will be important that both partner have synastric aspects to each other`s relationship cycles. Maybe not all, but at least one mutually.


in the example of my parents, my Dad was having a progressed New Moon and my Mumīs pMoon was trining it, and her pSun was square.

Synastrically speaking while I think a strong dynamic aspect is necessary to ignite the spark of an attraction, like Venus-opposite-Mars for example, it might be nice to ease into the softer aspects once the relationship started.
You know starting with a Sun-Moon-square can be thrilling, but who can really live on thrills forever?
A trine following a sparkly beginning might bring a smooth development into the relationship. Or if you are really used to the thrills and thrive of them, might bore you to death. lol
Probably an individual thing. Possibly a good mix would be nice.
Personally I would prefer the harmonious aspects between Sun-Moon and the tension aspects between Venus-Mars, but that might be just me. lol


Anyway these are my thoughts before midnight for today.

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posted October 15, 2014 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect timing!
I love you for making this thread lol.

You think maybe Moon/Saturn could account for it too since they are also yin/yang, being represented by Cancer/Capricorn?

And how do you feel about the progressed midpoints of yin/yang planets? Could they work too or maybe make up for the missing aspects between the individual planets?

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posted October 15, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post! And i know what i'll be doing tomorrow!

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posted October 15, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You think maybe Moon/Saturn could account for it too since they are also yin/yang, being represented by Cancer/Capricorn?"
Yes, I was thinking about that, too. Some sort of mature relating. However I might be the wrong person to answer that, as Moon/Saturn are my progressed DESC and ASC-ruler, so i might simply resonate with them because of that.


"And how do you feel about the progressed midpoints of yin/yang planets? Could they work too or maybe make up for the missing aspects between the individual planets?"
Possibly.
However I think they should be backed up by aspects.
There is also the risk that if we include pretty much everything, we lose sight of the big picture and will just end up finding anything if we just use enough asteroids and planets.
however on the other side, a limited approach that incorporates only one pairing, might be too, well, limited.
We need to find the right balance.

However I think Sun, MOon, Venus, Mars, (Saturn) are all relationship planets, so it is not too arbitrary to check for them.
If you use midpoints, I`d say keep it to the Sun/Moon, Venus/Mars, Sun/Venus, Moon/Mars and r1/r7 and r5/r11 midpoints, AND no mixing up between natal and progressed. No pVenus/nMars midpoints, but only pVenus/pMars to either a natal or progressed planet.

Also triggering planets for midpoints should be focused on Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, r1, r7, ASC, MC, Vertex and Node.
And of course keep the orb REALLY tight, Iīd keep it even under one degree, preferably 30 minutes.


I do think my natal Moon conjunct my pSun/pVenus-mp might be important, but maybe only because there is already a Sun-Venus-aspect, possibly they strengthen each other.


my pASC is conjunct my nMoon/nMars-midpoint, and I suspect that might become more overt once my pMoon has started trine my natal Mars.


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posted October 17, 2014 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what this is all about...I mean, the most interesting part: what happens in between

I've looked at some known relationships this way, but rather in reverse: trying to identify what happened between them by the p aspects forming at a certain time and comparing to what I know DID happen.

I will share some examples.

I also checked several relationships (just a few) for the p aspects when they became parents and they fit ! Every time until now.

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posted October 17, 2014 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
curiously waiting for your examples

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posted October 17, 2014 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose Moon-Mars would be a good baby-making cycle.

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posted October 17, 2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, Moon/Mars, Moon/Saturn, strong Moon, 5th house ruler and...interestingly, Chiron - for both parents


EDIT: ah, and Moon/Pluto
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posted October 17, 2014 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Currently i have:

p.Sun conjunct p.Venus 1.07s
p.Sun square n.Moon 0.00s
p.Mercury (R1) square p.Neptune (R7) 0.31a
p.Venus square n.Moon 1.07s
p.Mars trine n.Venus 1.46s

So i guess i've moved out of the passive zone and right into the active mode of relationship searching, i think i might be getting readier for it now. I feel the urge to actively attend more events outside my current social circle (we do have many events and so i have to give time for myself alone too - doing something different). And i get many opportunities to do so, unfortunately, due to my current state of health (a "kissing" virus LOL is weakening my immune system, so i get more colds and other unpleasant things) i haven't used yet. But if i don't use one, i already then get a chance for another, so i am going to use them. For example, free lecture course on a theme i am interested in.. maybe i might meet someone new there. A change in a mindset definitely. I haven't stopped loving him, and i doubt i ever could, but i have acknowledged that if he can't get himself move forward and stop playing games, then i have to move forward my own way. If something happens in time to come, so shall it be, but i have to give chance to someone else, someone new and not from our mutual friends and acquaintances obviously. So Sun-Moon square is acting like it should.


Curiously he shall have p.Moon conjunct n.Venus in a few months, and that's coincides with the time when my Sun will apply to his Venus, and some time before that there will be an exact T-square of our progressed composite Sun-Moon-Pluto. So we will see. But i am not inclined to wait for that to happen while ignoring other people. Not anymore.

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posted October 20, 2014 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Copying some progression cycles I wrote from your old thread:

"My parents - from First Meeting to Wedding

1967 - 1973

Her progressed to his natal

Sun 17-23 Cap
Moon 17 Aries - 6 Cancer
ASC 17-26 Aqua
MC 7-13 Sag
Vertex 11-16 Virgo
Venus 23 Sag - 0 Cap
Mars 2-7 Aqua
Juno 14-16 Aries


Her Sun transits his 3rd house (sec 8th), lands on his Juno. The only aspect her Sun makes is a trine to his 23 Virgo Neptune, right around Wedding.

Her Moon starts on his 6th cusp, lands on his Chiron, near 9th cusp - so Moon crosses DSC during this time! Which means she makes both a square and a trine to his Sun during this time. (his Sun 20 Aqua)

Her ASC transits his 4th, crosses his Sun/POF


Her MC transits his 2nd - her MC starts from an exact conjunction to his Mars, arrives in conjunction to his Avx (2) around wedding date.


Her Vertex 11 Virgo starts from an exact square to his Vertex axis, 11 Gem. Transits his 10th, lands on his Union exact.

Her Juno starts from an exact conjunction to his Saturn, transits his 6th, trines his MC all this time.

Her Venus transits his 2nd. Starts from a conjunction with his Valentine (1) and an exact square to his Neptune. After wedding, Venus will start applying to his natal Venus/Chiron opp ((4 deg away).

Her Mars approaches his IC. It passes through a square to his ASC/DSC and his Moon. Wedding day finds Mars sextile Mars exact.

I find these quite significant. "

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posted October 20, 2014 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents:

"His progressed to her natal, 1967-1973

Sun 18-24 Pisces
Moon 14 Sc - 0 Cap
ASC 25 SC - 0 Sag
MC -11 - 18 Virgo (her pVertex, btw)
Vertex 8-13 Cancer
Juno 6-8 Aqua
Venus 5-12 Aqua
Mars 23-27 Sag

Sun transits her 2nd. Passes through a Grand Trine to her DSC and MC! After wedding, starts applying for Sun square Sun. (4 deg away)

Moon starts its voyage from her 9th (sec 11th), 5 deg away from MC, crosses MC, Venus and Sun, lands on Sun on the 12th cusp for wedding day. Passes through a square to her Moon/Pluto and a trine to her DSC.

His ASC crosses her 10th, arrives in exact conjunction to her Venus 0 Sag on wedding date!!!

His MC entering her 8th house, arrives in exact trine to her Mars on wedding, applying (2) for her angles MC and ASC.

His Vertex transits her 6th (sec 8th), passes through a Jupiter conjunction on Avx, and a Juno/Neptune square.

His Juno in her 1st squares her NN, arrives in perfect sextile to her Juno 7.42 Aries.

His Venus transits her 1st. Only a sextile with Juno, now applying for her Moon and Neptune (after wedding).

His Mars 23-to-27 Sag applying to her Sag Sun 28, on her 12th cusp. "

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posted October 20, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selene:
Currently i have:

p.Sun conjunct p.Venus 1.07s
p.Sun square n.Moon 0.00s
p.Mercury (R1) square p.Neptune (R7) 0.31a
p.Venus square n.Moon 1.07s
p.Mars trine n.Venus 1.46s

So i guess i've moved out of the passive zone and right into the active mode of relationship searching, i think i might be getting readier for it now. I feel the urge to actively attend more events outside my current social circle (we do have many events and so i have to give time for myself alone too - doing something different). And i get many opportunities to do so, unfortunately, due to my current state of health (a "kissing" virus LOL is weakening my immune system, so i get more colds and other unpleasant things) i haven't used yet. But if i don't use one, i already then get a chance for another, so i am going to use them. For example, free lecture course on a theme i am interested in.. maybe i might meet someone new there. A change in a mindset definitely. I haven't stopped loving him, and i doubt i ever could, but i have acknowledged that if he can't get himself move forward and stop playing games, then i have to move forward my own way. If something happens in time to come, so shall it be, but i have to give chance to someone else, someone new and not from our mutual friends and acquaintances obviously. So Sun-Moon square is acting like it should.


Curiously he shall have p.Moon conjunct n.Venus in a few months, and that's coincides with the time when my Sun will apply to his Venus, and some time before that there will be an exact T-square of our progressed composite Sun-Moon-Pluto. So we will see. But i am not inclined to wait for that to happen while ignoring other people. Not anymore.


I have a similiar mindset.
Donīt get me wrong he affects me and means a great deal to me, but that won`t make me close my eyes to other options.

In fact just today the new colleague was winking at me when I entered the room. I am pretty sure no colleagues has been winking at me before. LOL
No clue what that was about, but he is cute.

Did I mention he is a trained opera singer and Spanish, and I dreamed of him before meeting him? LOL Possibly. Not totally sure it was him, but could have been.

What I am sure about is that just before he started working at my working place, I was suddenly starting dreaming again of a guy talking to me in Spanish, when I can`t even understand Spanish (well my brother wrote me a postcard in Spanish, and despite never having learned it, it came so easy to translate it, must be due to my Latin knowledge).

Nah it is probably just a coincidence, that I was starting to dream of hearing Spanish words in my dreams and then that new colleague entering the scene, who happens to be Spanish.

did I mention he is REALLY cute?

No I donīt think he would even really be interested in me, but I like the nice reception, not just by him, but I notice from others as well.

So Mr Sag better hurries up and gets his stuff together, or I might be getting quite distracted somewhere else.
Not that he would really mind I suppose.
But I might have other options; or maybe not, but at least it felt nice to come to work today after 2 weeks of absences and Mr Spanish was beaming at me such a radiant smile, it was impossible to stay in the bad tired mood I had been in. And quite frankly, he was asking a lot of questions about things he actually already knew the answer to, and I got the feeling it was an attempt to keep me from going elsewhere at least for some moments.
Though he is not always like that towards me, so maybe that was just a coincidence today. But a nice one.

Unfortunately I have no clue when his birthday is, but I slowly start thinking it might be in february.

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posted October 21, 2014 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW people, what are your current progressed themes (in your own progressions, p and p to natal) and do you see a match with the other's themes?

My example:


Sun conjunct Uranus in Libra 7th - I see a possible activation of my interception, due to Uranus rulership in my chart. Falling in the natal 9th - relocation, as planned

Venus conj Mars exact in Libra 7th - natal 9th

Mercury in Scorpio ingress 8th house in Scorpio - my house of choice, plus Mercury rules my 5th and 8th - important 8th house/MC matters, since my MC is in Scorpio. In the natal 9th, too.

Valentine ingress 8th house Scorpio: I'm in love!!!!!!! hahahaha but in a Scorpionic way, of course Natal 9th.

Sun/Moon sq, separating

Moon conj Psyche in 11th - idealism, especially relationship-related (Moon is my 7th ruler), soul connection, intensification of psychic activity. Falling in the natal 1st - it won't remain invisible

Juno conj Pholus in 12th - an unexpected Juno lol quincunx Pluto, MC ruler - a turning point related to a partner. Falling in my natal 2nd, on my Yod apex: even more of a turning point, but with a stabilizing potential. Values, material issues may be stimulated as well, by this partnerhsip. Maybe a business partner haha

POF conj IC exact yayyy! the treasure and Eros conj IC - another treasure lol

Jupiter on my natal Pholus exact, and retro of course - surprise!surprise!

pDSc appl to natal Sun (2) and pNN appl to natal POF/NN (3) - let's see lol


Conclusion: interception, Yod, Scorpio love, paranormal activity, a hidden treasure and a lot of 9th house


his themes:

Sun/Moon/DSC conj around 0 Taurus separating from Uranus on ASC and POF on ASC - a lucky guy now. Transiting his 8th house, ruling his mind and his Moon in 2nd - 8th/2nd to the fore, plus intense mental activity. General transformation.

Moon Cupido conj in Taurus, appl

Mars conj Saturn 0-1 Cancer ingress 9th house cusp - hey, thank god we have this similar 9th activation yohoo. Will be there for a long time. The conjunction just entered his intercepted 10th - interception triggering for him too. Since he has Saturn and Moon intercepted rulers in his chart, I look at the Moon too. separating sextile from Mars and Saturn, appl to natal Venus and the Aqua stelium and later, to his natal Moon.

Mercury/Chiron conj in Aries 6th. natal ASC in Virgo, p conjunction falling in the 7th - perhaps an awakening/reconstruction of the 1st/7th axis. Squaring my natal ASC/DSC exact, maybe I can help

Pholus/Jupiter ingress 5th house 0 yay! Venus in p 5th appl to natal Sun (4)

Juno conj natal Jupiter exact

Pallas/Psyche conj IC on natal Venus exact - some paranormal here as well

Amor ingress 8th house exact

pASC/DSC transiting natal 2nd/8th, reinforcing the theme

pIC/MC appl to natal Venus in 5th and transiting the 5th stellium

Conclusion: I see some similarities


What about your themes??

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posted October 21, 2014 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Unfortunately I have no clue when his birthday is, but I slowly start thinking it might be in february.

Ceri, you must find out his Bday. No Facebook page with Bday?

Or just tell him you do a research connecting astrology signs with teaching...or something hehehe I mean he's a foreigner, far away from home, I'm sure he wants to please, he'd probably answer any question hehehe now's the moment to ask!

He must be the cute one in the pic you showed me...totally your type!

There's no question in my mind he's an Aqua with something in Cancer

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posted October 21, 2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Ceri, you must find out his Bday. No Facebook page with Bday?

Or just tell him you do a research connecting astrology signs with teaching...or something hehehe I mean he's a foreigner, far away from home, I'm sure he wants to please, he'd probably answer any question hehehe now's the moment to ask!

He must be the cute one in the pic you showed me...totally your type!

There's no question in my mind he's an Aqua with something in Cancer



Yes, Ceri, you have to find out his BD!

In my circle everyone has got acquainted with my weirdness of astrology so i usually stalk their birthdays on internet and then on the occasion ask about birth time, and the more people, the better, so that no one can get suspicious of me asking just for their birth time. So i know birth times for most of my friends and acquaintances except for those that don't know it themselves.

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posted October 21, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Sun conjunct Uranus in Libra 7th - I see a possible activation of my interception, due to Uranus rulership in my chart. Falling in the natal 9th - relocation, as planned"
Yes, sounds great.

Actually I ADORE Uranus progressions. Love them.
In fact I was having one when I met Mr Sag

pSun 29°59 Capricorn
(ingress was 3 days later)

pMoon 00°29 Taurus

n Uranus 01°21 Scorpio
n 5th cusp 01°44 Taurus


Very electrifying and lifechanging on the whole.

It was maybe even more intense the year later, when I travelled to London, on my own for the very first time, to see Jude Law on stage. I had not planned on going alone, in fact I had built in a lot of safety nets in the person of many people coming alone, and one by one, every safety net fell away. THAT is Uranus for me. He forces me into that independence thing, out of the comfort zone, pulling away those crutches, I want to rely on JUST IN CASE something goes wrong. or unpredicted.
Of course everything WENT wrong. But Uranus also pushes me over that edge, to make me realize that I already can swim, fly, whatever. Those crutches are not needed but just a sign of my own insecurity, and I have to grow beyond that.

Anyway so when going to London it actually was


pSun 1°11 Aquarius
n Uranus 1°21 Scorpio

of course pMoon was not part of the whole scenario anymore, having moved onto 14 Taurus at that time.

interestingly around that time Mars was ingressing Capricorn (0°03) and pASC coming to touch my natal venus (0°21 a)


The fact that Moon was not part of the Sunn-Moon-Uranus of course also means that the importance of the 5th house cusp was not THAT prominent in that timeframe. well it will always be prominent, with Uranus exactly opposing it natally, but that time it was not about that.


But having the Sun-Uranus-progression was not enough.

I was also having

Tr Uranus: 26°20 Pisces R
squaring my natal Sun by 0°24 applying.

So a repeated aspect, the progression being mirrored by the transits. Double strike!


Interestingly enough Tr NN was on 00°11 Aquarius, having just passed over my pr Sun, and well Uranus- Aquarius?

The day I arrived in London Tr Sun was on 3°35 Leo, and hence having just opposed my pr Sun and squared my n Uranus.

Well the first thing that happened was that my credit card did not seem to work when I wanted to check in into the hotel. Chaos.
With Uranus there is always chaos in hotels, when I first made a trip to Paris, and was nervous, too, Tr Uranus ahd been conjunct my n Moon exactly (Aquarius) and of course it turned out the hotel had forgotten to book my room, and they did not have any more left.
I had been meeting up with an aquaitance I only knew from an internet forum before (and was nervous about meeting total stranger as well. lol), but she had been having a double room and so I could luckily stay with her.
Something I would never have planned for or even wanted, but which in the end made for a very funny time.
I tzend to set my own boundaries very tight, just in case something goes wrong, you know? Extra care.
But Uranus just shakes it up, and sais, No, not with me. You donīt need that security-crap. Your Moon is in aquarius parallel Uranus anyway. lol

Well the Transit of Uranus to my Sun, happened of course in my 3rd house, with Uranus ruling 3rd and Sun ruling 9th.

When I met Mr Sag, the progressed Moon brought a flair of the 8th house (natal ruler) and the 7th house (progressed ruler) and was manifesting in my natal 5th house / progressed 3rd house.


"Venus conj Mars exact in Libra 7th - natal 9th"
That sounds sexy and passionate and like a definite sexual/ romantic cycle.


"Valentine ingress 8th house Scorpio: I'm in love!!!!!!! hahahaha but in a Scorpionic way, of course Natal 9th."
LOL

My Valentine is natally in Scorpio (though in 12th house), but I know what you mean about Scorpio-Valentine (his is in Scorpio as well btw, but not quite conjunct mine, though his Uranus is right on the midpoing of our Valentines).

Funny enough, but when I met him, my pValentine was conjunct NN.

naturally our first meeting chart`s ASC had to fall right there, and it was conjunct his DESC-ruler anyway. lol


For him his pValentine was squaring his nodal axis, and having just progressed over my natal Valentine, still in scorpio.


"Sun/Moon sq, separating"
How much?
But still a strong relationship cycle. BTW first or last quarter?

alling in the natal 1st - it won't remain invisible"
You bet!

"pDSc appl to natal Sun (2) and pNN appl to natal POF/NN (3) - let's see lol"
DESC-Sun is another very strong relationship cycle, possibly even strong in manifesting as an actual marriage or commitment of some sort.

"Sun/Moon/DSC conj around 0 Taurus separating from Uranus on ASC and POF on ASC - a lucky guy now."
WOW!
Such a strong relationship cycle. New Moon on DESC, on 0 Taurus, with Uranus (I LOVE URanus you know)
And angular, visible, manifesting in this dimension.

Complementary to your Sun-Moon square AND your Sun-DESC of course.
do they interaspect?

"Juno conj natal Jupiter exact"
Had a similar one when I met Mr Sag

pJupiter 16°58 Pisces
n Juno 16°58 PIsces.

Yes it was peaking the night we met, or the 3 days surrounding this occasion; just as his pSun-nVenus-conjunction was peaking at that EXACT night.

I always thought I wasn`t connecting to his Sun-Venus-progression, but in fact my nMars is on the solstic point of it (1°05)

his pMars opposed my pJupiter/nJuno (1°38)

"pIC/MC appl to natal Venus in 5th and transiting the 5th stellium"
bringing Venus and 5th to the focus.

-very strong similiarities, I agree

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posted October 21, 2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My colleague does not seem to have a facebook, sadly.
I am not sure how to ask him, too.

Weird. I remember there was once someone I wanted to know the birthtime of and I simply walked to him and asked.
But then again I never thought I`d have to face Mr Sag again in my life after that.

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posted October 21, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just ask him, Ceri...for scientific reasons

I loved your description of Uranus and hotels and machinery and computers lol and how it forces you of your safety net

I think our pSun/Moon interaction is rather impressive: a cross on his p angles, with double DW (p Natal and p synastry) - the chart in the OP here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001228.html

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posted October 21, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other social networks out there. My Mercury/Pluto is very good at detective work (though to be honest information I need just falls in my lap too sometimes). I imagine being a professional he should be on linkedin but idk if you can get his bday from there. I would just google him at first.

I am actually very happy to hear this! And yes, Mr. Sag should better watch out for that competition! I have some news of my own - I am going out with the Bull this week, contacted another ex and also a very powerful crush of mine from 2012. It's Mercury retro and I might as well haunt some people the way others have haunted me too. I figured if I don't want to obsess about one guy, I should put that Gemini 5th house to work and diversify. It works haha. Out of all, I want the Scorpio (last one) really bad, even though my interaction with him has always been a chess game (imagine my shock seeing comp Venus conj NN!). I guess my loneliness peeks get the best of me sometimes.

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posted October 21, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My progressions
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p DESC applying to n 8th cusp, 1,5°a (so about 1,5 years from now)

p cusp 5 applying to n DESC (1°a)


p Moon ingress Leo (next month), since my n Priapus is on 00.010 Leo it will trigger that one, and then a month later the square to n Uranus. lol

p Venus applying to n cusp 3 1°a


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pMoon opposite pSun 7°a (spring 2015)
p Moon in n8th/ p7th

Moon rules the pDESC, and Sun is coruler of p7th, as Leo intercepted there

pMercury moving REAL slow, as he is making ready to go stationary retrograde (but not yet)

pMercury conjunct pAvx 1,5 (seemingly separating, but he is going to return there)
in n2nd/p1st
Mercury ruling nDESC and p5th and p8th


pSAturn conjunct pDESC 3°
in n8th/ p7th
Saturn ruling n2nd and pASC


pVesta opposite pEros 0,5°a
Eros being in n8th, p7th

Eros actually IS stationary direct, he managed to travel just 2 degrees since my birth. lol
And actually - I know you do not like it- is on the exact degree of my n DESTINN

Sabian:
"A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas"


pPholus wuare pNN 0,5a

pAmor conjunct pASC 2s (2 years ago?)


pASC square n Pluto 2°s
Pluto being in n10th and p8th
ruling natally 11th and 12th, and the progressed MC now

pMC square nMoon 0,5a
in n11th/p10th
Moon ruling n8th and p7th

pSun conjunct nPallas 3a

pMoon opposite pMoon 18°a (1,5 years from now)

pMercury conjunct n Psyche 0,5

pVenus conjunct nBML 2,5a
Venus ruling natal 5th and pIC and p9th

pMars conjunct nVenus 2°14 a
in natal 1st and p 12th
Mars rules natal IC and p3rd
Venus rules natal 5th, pIC and p9th


pAvx conjunct n Psyche 2a

pJuno conjunct nIC 0,5a (but she is so slow)
in natal 4th and pr 2nd

pPholus conjunct nCeres 1,5a

pPsyche conjunct nJupiter 0,5a

pAmor square nPluto 0,5a

pValentine conjunct n NN 1s
in natal 1st and p 11th

pPriapus opposite nMoon 0,5s
Priapus being in n8th and p7th

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quote:
Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
There are other social networks out there. My Mercury/Pluto is very good at detective work (though to be honest information I need just falls in my lap too sometimes). I imagine being a professional he should be on linkedin but idk if you can get his bday from there. I would just google him at first.

I am actually very happy to hear this! And yes, Mr. Sag should better watch out for that competition! I have some news of my own - I am going out with the Bull this week, contacted another ex and also a very powerful crush of mine from 2012. It's Mercury retro and I might as well haunt some people the way others have haunted me too. I figured if I don't want to obsess about one guy, I should put that Gemini 5th house to work and diversify. It works haha. Out of all, I want the Scorpio (last one) really bad, even though my interaction with him has always been a chess game (imagine my shock seeing comp Venus conj NN!). I guess my loneliness peeks get the best of me sometimes.


LOL

We need to keep our options open

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posted October 21, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL

We need to keep our options open


Mine have never been this open before! lol Actually I will soon get into seclusion mode again, before the exam. Besides, other than Bull, everyone is being silent for now. Including Mr. Cap! Almost forgot about him.

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I remember when i met mr.Uranus at first i didn't even know the year. I knew the day, but i didn't the year. And i figured it out just by looking at our synastry with various reasonable years - i picked it because of the exact Uranus configuration and his Venus on my DSC. And it turned out that it really, really was this exact same year i chose.

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my (and Mr Sag`s) Sun-Moon-cycle

for simplicity sake I used one degree orb, though I think 2 degrees would still be valid, but solar fire only has 1 degree orb. lol


Mine
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april - may 15:
pMoon opposite pSun


December 15 - january 16:
pMoon opposite nMoon

july-august 16
pMoon trine nSun

july-august 18
pMoon square nSun

july-september 19
pMoon trine pSun

december 19-february 20
pMoon trine nMoon

august -september 20
pMoon sextile nSun


his cycle
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july-august 15
pMoon trine nSun

august-october 15
pMOon trine nMoon

december 15-february 16
pMoon square pSun

may-july18
pMoon trine nSun


december 19-february 20
pMoon opposite nSun

february - april 20
pMoon opposite nMoon

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Expanding to appr. 2 degree orb


mine
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march - june 15
pMoon opposite pSun

november 15-february 16
pMoon opposite nMoon


june - september 16
pMoon trine nSun

june - september 18
pMoon square nSun


june - october 19
pMoon trine pSun


november 19 - march 20
pMoon trine nMoon


july 20 - october 20
pMoon sextile nSun


his
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june - september 15
pMoon trine nSun

july - november 15
pMoon trine pMoon


November 15 - march 16
pMoon square pSun


april - august 18
pMoon trine nSun


november 19 - march 20
pMoon opposite nSun

january 20 - may 20
pMoon opposite nMoon

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