posted October 21, 2014 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Interesting that you describe it this way....my Pluto guy conjunct my Venus has always had a somewhat distant love style, even though he wanted depth he never chose anyone who could give that.
He felt he was worthless in many ways. But he so isn't! He loves very sweet and innocently it might be easy to run him over, but I couldn't do that. He's helping me trust again. I don't want to hurt him but I can see how easy it would be to hurt him so it's making me become more aware of how much my walls can hurt the people who try to love me. I must take them down in order to not hurt him, trying to protect his heart is forcing me to see my walls and take them down.
He's a pisces with a saggy moon.
I'm a saggy with a virgo moon.

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He had issues with self-worth also. He kept looking outside for reinforcements or negations of his ideas of his self-worth. But he started to learn that self-worth issues can only be fixed internally while experiencing the "scary world." He realized that self-worth comes from how we live our lives, how we treat people, how we react to situations, the way we go about achieving our goals and dreams, how we provide for our loved ones (this is how his child helped him later on).

posted October 21, 2014 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's wild we're going through so much of the same thing right now, Gabby. If I recall, a lot of my chart is progressed to your natal. It was SO much no fun when tMARS was there, though!

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posted October 21, 2014 10:45 PM            

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He had issues with self-worth also. He kept looking outside for reinforcements or negations of his ideas of his self-worth. But he started to learn that self-worth issues can only be fixed internally while experiencing the "scary world." He realized that self-worth comes from how we live our lives, how we treat people, how we react to situations, the way we go about achieving our goals and dreams, how we provide for our loved ones (this is how his child helped him later on).

With his love by his side, he started to live and experience things. She taught him to see things differently. Before, a small setback would have lead to his breakdown, but with her help and support, he started to see that even though they live in a scary world, not every thing that is bad should affect his perception of himself. Sometimes, it's more a reflection of the other person or the situation. He learned to become more detached.He also learned that he can't always protect his heart, and if he did, he wouldn't live to his potential and experience things out there that would make him a better person.

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For us I think we have both had huge insecurities in love it has made me very guarded and him very fragile. It's my Venus on his Pluto but his Venus is exactly square this.

Your friends experience sounds so much like ours...we are giving each other so much strength. I've never felt so supported or strong in our conviction to be there for each other.

posted October 21, 2014 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
I'm always curious what the pluto person feels as well...
It's confusing!

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posted October 24, 2014 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by pisceskiwi:
I have this conjunction with a guy I know, he's venus, I'm the pluto and it's crazy, obsessive chemistry. I only see him now and then and we both have partners but there's something undeniably there. My question is though, as he has venus in libra wouldn't he feel some connection with many woman that have pluto in libra as it's a generational aspect?

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posted October 29, 2014 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ruden123:
I had just recently bought Linda Goodman's relationship signs and it said the conjunction between venus & pluto is a soulmate aspect.

What about the sextile and trine? are they twinsoul and soulmate aspects too? and whats the difference between soulmates and twin souls?

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I will copy and paste what I answered in another thread:

"It is very often that we meet soulmates (same soul family, multiple shared lifetimes). They are usually all around us, as family, friends.
It is also more often that we meet Twin Souls (souls with similar soul lineage and life mission, also part of the soul family).

It is very rare that we meet our Twin Flame (the other part of you, the other piece of your soul), it usually happens in very special circumstances. However, in this current time where Ascension is inevitable, more Twin Flames have/are incarnated/incarnating together."

Soulmates, twin souls and twin flames are different concepts.

There is only one Twin Flame, since the Twin Flame is the other part of your soul. It is you in essence.
There are various Twin Souls and Soulmates.

posted October 30, 2014 09:53 AM            

Too many people stress out about Twin Flames. It's actually kinda annoying. Everyone wants that "Walt Disney happily ever after" fairy tale. Those things aren't what define TRUE relationships. It's an illusion that means nothing if it doesn't have any real substance..

You meet your twin, you're gonna hate everything about them..watch lol jk

posted October 30, 2014 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Twin Flames go beyond astrology if you ask me. We share the same aspects with many people. Sometimes you'll feel it, sometimes you won't. It really all depends on that particular vibration and soul evolution of that person. Astrology is just a map.

Too many people stress out about Twin Flames. It's actually kinda annoying. Everyone wants that "Walt Disney happily ever after" fairy tale. Those things aren't what define TRUE relationships. It's an illusion that means nothing if it doesn't have any real substance..

You meet your twin, you're gonna hate everything about them..watch lol jk

I'm not the relationship kinda guy. I prefer deep connections but I've learned that the title "relationship" is very superficial. What defines a relationship? Titles? Marriage? Obligations and expectations? No one will have the answer because everyone is different. But one thing is for sure, love and honesty will always be apart of a true union. I'm pretty sure when I meet my twin/soulmate, we won't even end up getting married, or even living together. Because I don't really believe in that lifestyle (It can happen though). It's all about perspective...

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I mostly agree with this. And while I DIDN'T hate everything about him, a relationship was impossible from the word 'go'. I think it's a testament to us both that we tried AT ALL, to be honest.

Do I think it's the be-all, end-all? Absolutely not. I'm actually much happier in the 'relationship' I have now. It feels right to me. Constantly stressing to try and 'make it happen' with my Twin was NOT.