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Aubyanne
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posted November 08, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for clarification, nonmonogamy is very simply defined as a relational style which is not limited to commitment with a singular individual. Polyamory is one of the more common types of nonmonogamy. Polyamorous partners may have concurrent relationships ('parallel monogamy') of a committed nature; a committed couple (typically married) may engage in secondary relationships with partners outside of the marriage.

A necessary caveat:

POLYAMORY IS NOT INFIDELITY.

Ladies, be wary of the man who is 'polyamorous' and is 'not responsible' for his monogamous partners who 'didn't know'. We have another label for those types; I'm sure you can guess it.

Polyamory, at its most basic form, is an attachment style which heavily relies upon communication, negotiation (and, many times, progressive negotiation) and honesty.

There has been some interest recently here on LL to explore both natal and synastric dynamics in the charts of those who are involved in open marriages, open relationships, are 'monogamish', or polyamorous (or both, as the two can certainly overlap).

It's a wide, wild, fascinating world out there.

So, let's get started?

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Geeky
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posted November 08, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll collect my findings from the other thread.

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posted November 08, 2014 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
I'll collect my findings from the other thread.


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posted November 08, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is from my most recent poly relationship (with these two people).

ME:
Virgo Sun / Leo Asc / Sag Moon
Uranus opposite MC
Sun sextile Uranus
Uranus square my Asc
Venus in Scorpio, H3 (I have a Stellium in H3 with Venus, Mars, Uranus & Pluto)
Venus conjunct Mars
Venus square Jupiter

HIM:
Libra Sun / Gemini Asc / Libra Moon
Stellium in H5 with Moon, Mercury, Pluto, Mars and Sun. All but Mercury fall in Libra (Mercury is in Virgo).
Venus conjunct Uranus
Uranus square MC

OUR COMPOSITE:
Uranus in 5th house & heavily aspected (Moon, Venus, Jupiter, ascendant and Mercury all in aspect with Uranus here)

HER:
Sun Libra / Asc Aqua / Moon Aries
Venus conjunct Uranus
Uranus conjunct MC
Mars square Uranus
Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn & Pluto all in H8

OUR COMPOSITE:
We have Sun, Mercury, Mars & Saturn all in H5.
Uranus in H7
Venus conjunct Uranus
Uranus opposition Ascendant
Moon square Uranus
Mars sextile Uranus
Saturn sextile Uranus

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posted November 08, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great! I'm glad we've opened this up here. I'm getting (hopefully if the people I'm asking don't mind) more charts that we can work on. I think it would be useful to look at natals as well as composites.

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Aubyanne
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posted November 08, 2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious!

My partner's SUN and MERC are 8H natally, too. Obviously that's just coincidental, but -- how wild!

As for me ...

SUN conjunct BML/PLUTO (2º)
MOON conjunct URANUS (1º)
MOON/EROS=LILITH (0º)

Most dominant energy: 3H; Scorpio. MOON, MERC, MARS, URA, EROS, LILITH.

Empty 5H.

5R is 1H SATURN, conjunct JUPITER (6º) and JUNO (2º)

Empty 7H.

7R is 4H NEPTUNE, opposite PSYCHE (0º)

I am also an asexual schizoid, for clarity / specificity of data. I think it's important we 'control' (as they say) for sexual / asexual spectrum, as an asexual 'polyamorist' is going to likely have some different chart variables than a sexual one.

Since we discussed JUPITER, I do have it sextile URA, 3º.

I also feel that LILITH / BML (as well as URA) is definitely an important factor that can shed a lot of light. I have a chart that's strong in LILITH (1811) and BML aspects and features.

I've noticed this can carry over for men as well, though PRIAPUS is going to have a different effect. Men expressing their BML tend to be more aloof, distant, and independent; those who are owning their PRIAPUS are more intensely sexual, passionate, and craving of relationship.

You might find that BML/PRIAPUS is involved in patterns across the board; with BML dominating in the poly-type, and PRIAPUS stronger for sexuality -- whether it's poly or mono.

Just some spitballing.

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Aubyanne
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posted November 08, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, not to confuse everything, but here's a multi-composite of three natals. A technique I feel could be useful when evaluating poly relationships.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000818.html

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posted November 08, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll start plugging in some Lilith, BML, and Priapus to see what's going on.

The person I was looking into has

Libra Venus square Uranus, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, and Chiron!

Uranus conjunct Saturn, trine Sun conjunct MC, square Mercury and Venus, opposite Jupiter

Jupiter square Venus and Mercury, sextile Sun and MC

Mars conjunct MC, trine Moon-Neptune-Saturn, sextile Pluto

ASC (Scorpio) conjunct Pluto, square Sun, opposite Moon

Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn in the 2nd
Jupiter and Chiron in the 8th and Venus in the 11th, Pluto in the 12th and Mars, Mercury in the 10th, Sun in the 9th

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Aubyanne
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posted November 08, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
URANUS has been a classic model for 'unconventional' texturing to whatever it hits, and most of the traditional texts list aspects to VENUS and MOON as prime targets for being 'nonconformist' and 'alternative'. Back in the day, it was a homosexuality indicator; now we know better.

I think mine may be somewhat circumstantial, though. I think I was open to it, because of my parents' open marriage (during my childhood) and certain natal influences. My first poly relationship was in college. 'Accidental', I'd say. I was legitimately ending a relationship, but my then-boyfriend refused to. I told him I really didn't want to lose the opportunity of dating someone I felt would be very good for me (and, oh, was he ever; that was an incredibly growth-oriented relationship) and he suggested I ... just ... see them both.

And so I did. It was a very short duration, comparatively. I'm a little gun-shy in regards to my secondary relationship ending. (It's happened twice!) Largely due to that, but also the way the relationship with my partner went the first time around.

But if you take my husband's chart into consideration -- his 7R is URANUS. Both of his marriages have been open. (His URANUS is exactly conjunct my SUN, too.)

Looking at my partner's natal, we get an interesting story. Some say it makes sense, others don't. 8H CANCER SUN, LEO VENUS, MOON, BML, EROS, NYMPHE, SATURN all in ARIES, 5H. MARS in LIBRA. SATURN square SUN.

Like me, he's schizoid and on the asexuality spectrum. He always thought he'd do the traditional thing, but, never quite felt motivated to actually attain it. Being of the PLUTO-URANUS generation (in VIRGO) I can't say that URA is that strong in his chart. He's a MERC RX, though, and it IS his 7R.

So let's take that into consideration.

7R sextile URA conjunct PLUTO. Packed 5H (MOON, EROS, etc.), but 5R is 9H MARS in a tight T-Square with MOON, MERC (7R) and BML and LILITH. MERC is 8H, but locked in that T-Square.

It may honestly be the T-Square involving his most personal points -- BML/MOON square MERC(7R) square MARS/LILITH -- that's created such ambivalence about relationships. On the one hand, he gets lonely. Clearly. On the other, he values his independence greatly and is naturally very, very solitary.

He reminds me a lot of The Doctor in this way. You ever see Doctor Who? The humanoid in the TARDIS who never actually commits to anything but somehow remains dedicated and coming back around with regularity, largely due to a noble character? And, we can hope, the sheer awesomeness of his current companion?

It's a lot like that.

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posted November 10, 2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
'Accidental', I'd say. I was legitimately ending a relationship, but my then-boyfriend refused to. I told him I really didn't want to lose the opportunity of dating someone I felt would be very good for me (and, oh, was he ever; that was an incredibly growth-oriented relationship) and he suggested I ... just ... see them both.


Isn't it neat how we sometimes attract just the right people at precisely the right time?

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