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Topic: 12th House Synastry - Good or Bad
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Sunnydayz
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From: England
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posted February 11, 2013 03:06 PM
  
I was just wondering if anyone has ever had their sun and mars falling in their partner's 12th house (or vice versa) and what it was like?I guess I'm just trying to get an understanding of what it feels like for each person (plant person vs. house person)  IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
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posted February 11, 2013 03:14 PM
I don't know about synastry but in the composite 12th house sun is a secret relationship for sure.I don't think you would want any 12th house synastry connections - it is the house of all things hidden and in a love relationship you need the love to be open between you, you have to share it freely with your parent, it prevents and blocks feelings from being shared openly, sure it may be deep, but it would be a mess. IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted February 11, 2013 03:31 PM
I would like to hear from the planets people ... from what I've read and experienced the house person is far more affected by the interaction.The common stereotype is 8H synastry is the most intense. Being able to experience both 8H and 12H synastry ... 12H is definitely much deeper and more tempestuous.
Literally, it's like a Russian roulette, especially when mars is involved. I was the house person in a venus-mars-saturn conjunct 12H synastry. I felt like my whole energy is drained and frozen. I hated the fact that I gravitated them almost every second, hated the fact that I can't read their mind or know where I stand. Sometimes it feels like everything is finally balanced but unconsciously the whole thing turns off again. And oh, it IS really on a psychic level. The most terrible thing is that I still couldn't get over it ... the pain, the tension and how it feels is very ADDICTIVE. If you like challenge, tension, telepathy ... then 12H is GOOD. If you're into motivating/light/harmonious relationships .... then 12H is BAD.
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Sunnydayz
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 03:33 PM
We don't have sun in 12th for the composite (uranus is in the 12th for our composite...I haven't done too much research into it so not sure what that means) but my sun and mars falls into his 12th house in synastry. We have really good chemistry but sometimes I feel I may be a wee bit to sexually intense for him (I always joke that I am the man in the relationship).I have heard both good and bad things about the 12th house. For example, I've read that the house person has problems trusting the planet person...so I was curious about people's personal experiences with this planetary/house positions to see if that is what they have experienced. IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
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posted February 11, 2013 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sunnydayz:
We don't have sun in 12th for the composite (uranus is in the 12th for our composite...I haven't done too much research into it so not sure what that means) but my sun and mars falls into his 12th house in synastry. We have really good chemistry but sometimes I feel I may be a wee bit to sexually intense for him (I always joke that I am the man in the relationship).I have heard both good and bad things about the 12th house. For example, I've read that the house person has problems trusting the planet person...so I was curious about people's personal experiences with this planetary/house positions to see if that is what they have experienced.
Well you see, the 12th house can also signify the end of a relationship. Uranus being there in the 12th house of the composite can mean a quick, abrupt, and erratic ending. IP: Logged |
Sunnydayz
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 03:58 PM
Hi Vicky, I'm the planet person in this relationship and I, at times, feel like I am a bit too intense for him but I think he has a love/hate feeling towards my intensity. Just to clarify, when I say intensity I don't mean in a stalker or crazy sort of way, what I mean is that I feel like I have known him forever (we worked together for over 6 years but only just started dating about 2.5 months ago since I've left the company...he tried asking me out while I was there but I didn't want to get involved) so I tend to be a lot more open about what I think and feel which he has said on a number of occasions that he is not used to women being like that (but he says it's a good thing?). Having said that I do get the feeling that he questions my feelings towards him (though I feel like I have made my intentions clear...but maybe I haven't in his eyes). I've read there is mistrust with 12th house synastry... I agree with you about the psychic level. I do think there is a sort of telepathy vibe between us, there have been so many times when either of us will say something that the other person what thinking. Do you think the 12th house synastry was part of the reason for your break up (I'm assuming that you broke up because you mentioned that "The most terrible thing is that I still couldn't get over it ... the pain, the tension and how it feels is very ADDICTIVE.")
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asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
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posted February 11, 2013 04:01 PM
To your post above: it really is all that simple 12th house relationships are NOT easy because they are so addictive, the feelings the relationship "provides" are intense like no other. This is all part of the 12th house radiating its qualities.IP: Logged |
Sunnydayz
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Well you see, the 12th house can also signify the end of a relationship. Uranus being there in the 12th house of the composite can mean a quick, abrupt, and erratic ending.
Yikes, that's not good  I'm hoping that since we have quite a bit of saturn aspects (both good and bad) in our composite that will hold us together. This relationship definitely feels different than ones I have had in the past. IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
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posted February 11, 2013 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sunnydayz:
Yikes, that's not good I'm hoping that since we have quite a bit of saturn aspects (both good and bad) in our composite that will hold us together. This relationship definitely feels different than ones I have had in the past.
Try to read more up on it! I am sure there are articles out there on the web. Also it depends a lot on the aspects within the chart. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 04:17 PM
I had my Mars in Cancer just fall into my recent ex's 12th, and it was opposite his Saturn. He tried everything to at first block my sexual/romantic advances because he felt too busy with work and school. But he eventually gave in... yet the entire thing still felt weird, too much like hunter/prey and it made me feel bad. IP: Logged |
Sunnydayz
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Try to read more up on it! I am sure there are articles out there on the web. Also it depends a lot on the aspects within the chart.
I've actually been doing a lot of research on the aspects between us in both our synastry and composite (almost, dare I say, obsessively lol...mainly because this relationship feels so different from ones I have had in the past). To be honest I get kinda turned around with all the different descriptions because some seem so contradictory i.e. on description say there is no emotional connection (saturn square moon) but another aspect will say that our relationship exists because it makes us feel good, especially emotionally (moon in 5th house, sun & merc in 4th house...for our composite). I don't know, I'm confused lol IP: Logged |
Sunnydayz
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From: England
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2013 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I had my Mars in Cancer just fall into my recent ex's 12th, and it was opposite his Saturn. He tried everything to at first block my sexual/romantic advances because he felt too busy with work and school. But he eventually gave in... yet the entire thing still felt weird, too much like hunter/prey and it made me feel bad.
I can totally relate to the hunter/prey feeling, I totally feel like that now. Especially being a woman it feels weird because, call me old school but, I think the guy should be more of the aggressor....I also think that because his moon trines my mars this feeling maybe even more strongly felt as I have read is better when the male is the mars. IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
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posted February 11, 2013 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sunnydayz:
....I also think that because his moon trines my mars this feeling maybe even more strongly felt as I have read is better when the male is the mars.
You answered your own question. This aspect makes all the difference. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted February 11, 2013 09:23 PM
I have experience with H12 synastry... Its not all bad... But I do have to say its not for everyone... It can be very deep and cut into parts of yourself that you didnt really know existed.
Some people arent ready for that.. ITs like seeing a side of your self that you werent aware of... But this other person just brings it out, and slaps you in the face with it...
It forces you to look deep inside your self and see what you have hidden deep into your psyche. IP: Logged |
swampys
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From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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posted February 11, 2013 09:44 PM
OH MY!  Most intense and meaningful relationship I've ever encountered! It was wonderful and it was TERRIBLE! I didn't get the commitment I needed and at times it felt like I was doing all the work. And then at times I would treat him like God, because to me he was God. Now we're trying to be just friends because we both enjoy just getting to talk to each other. We both kind of realized this wasn't the emotional romantic relationship I needed. The feelings are so strong! It's a roller coaster! It's definitely not for everyone! I don't regret it at all, though, because I've learned so much from him, and the loving feelings I have for him are so genuine and real and that was the first time I got to feel something like that. For me in our relationship, I was daydreaming SO MUCH that I thought everything was fine until I had to be faced with reality from time to time. I'm the outer chart! IP: Logged |
elixir
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From: United States
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 08:42 AM
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IrisRainbow
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From: Pluto
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posted July 26, 2013 08:50 AM
I wonder what planets in the other person's 12th house conjunct their Asc means?------------------
I am stuck in a daydream IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted July 26, 2013 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I had my Mars in Cancer just fall into my recent ex's 12th, and it was opposite his Saturn. He tried everything to at first block my sexual/romantic advances because he felt too busy with work and school. But he eventually gave in... yet the entire thing still felt weird, too much like hunter/prey and it made me feel bad.
i have been through this as well - where (as the female) you are really chasing down someone with 12th house placements and trying to make them 'see the light' (aka their attraction/love for you). the problem is that they are not ready and it makes you the hunter, which is awkward. I think any 12th house natal placements are just as difficult for the relationship as finding out there are 12th house overlays in synastry/composite. for my own happiness I avoid dating men with 12th house natal placements IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 26, 2013 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
If you like challenge, tension, telepathy ... then 12H is GOOD.If you're into motivating/light/harmonious relationships .... then 12H is BAD.
Well said. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 11:53 AM
I find it to be bad no matter what but that's just my opinion. Keep your planets out of my twelfth house please  IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted July 26, 2013 01:20 PM
My Sun,Moon,Mercury,and Venus fell into my exs 12th.His Moon fell in mine.And his Neptune was in opposition to those planets.He told me about a few dreams he had of me(I never asked if he did often).Besides that we didn't have any telepathy or sensitivity to each other that others say they feel with 12th house synastry.I wonder why?IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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Registered: May 2012
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posted July 26, 2013 01:23 PM
I don't have (and never have had) a secret relationship with the father of my kids, so this isn't true at all in every case. quote:
Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I don't know about synastry but in the composite 12th house sun is a secret relationship for sure.
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Ceridwen
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posted July 26, 2013 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
I don't have (and never have had) a secret relationship with the father of my kids, so this isn't true at all in every case.
I am glad to hear about a different experience here, cause I can`t confirm that either. However 12th house synastry or composite certainly is not for the light, fun on the surface level, relationship. These have their justification, too, you just won´t find it in the 12th house. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted July 26, 2013 01:35 PM
Definitely isn't for the light. He is a Pisces after all - 12th house isn't so bad for him  We met on the Internet, I guess that can be the 'secret/myserious' aspect of it all. Other than that, no relationship is easy - everyone has their ups and downs, so I'm not sure what it truly means in our case. Everything happened so fast between us though and we moved in together/felt comfortable instantly, so idk. It honestly felt like we were continuing a past-life relationship or something (no time wasted) quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am glad to hear about a different experience here, cause I can`t confirm that either. However 12th house synastry or composite certainly is not for the light, fun on the surface level, relationship. These have their justification, too, you just won´t find it in the 12th house.
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12thhouser
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posted July 26, 2013 02:21 PM
My dad has his Aqua Venus in my 12th house conjuncting my Aqua moon, Mercury and Sun. His love toward me (parental of course) feels more like he's looking out for me in some ways, like a detached (Aqua) guardian angel. I already know what it's like to have Venus in the 12th, since my Pisces Venus is conjunct my asc. from the 12th house side. So, I don't feel overwhelmed at all by his Venus in my 12th. A friend of mine has her Aqua Sun in my 12th (not sure about her house placement since I don't know her time of birth) and when we've chatted over coffee and talked about co-workers (who we get along with, who we don't so much) and she told me about who she could "see right through," I asked her what she saw when she sees through me. She said "I don't, you're too complex." So, I have to wonder under what specific criteria the effect happens with, since in some cases the 12th house person is the enigma, and in other, it's the planet person who's a mystery.IP: Logged |
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