posted November 30, 2014 09:44 AM            

Of course the first thing I noticed is the wonderful Grand Trine consisting of:
* Saturn in Cancer in 1h / MC & Pholus in Pisces / Union in Scorpio in 5h and widely Uranus in Scorpio in 5h

Saturn in Cancer is also part of a t-square. Saturn does square venus & ceres in aries in 10 and Pluto in libra in 4h

Also, there is a minor triangle: pluto in libra in 4h does sextile mercury & vesta in aqua in 8h and does sextile neptune in sag in 6h.

This person (is it you or your partner? ) will have no problems to balance/combine his emotions (no player, not someone who says sh*t like "I don't know what to feel") job & private life. He will be able to keep things fresh

He can be caring & affectionate but maybe sometimes a bit bossy. Things need to develop the way he likes Maybe a bit "I know what's good for you", maybe a bit of a "mother theresa syndrom".
Also, he will love sex. Good for you

but again, as the previous personas already indicated: stable emotions, deep conversations, great friend & and an almost spiritual approach to life.

posted December 01, 2014 07:39 AM            

I think that, just like with our DSC, reflecting our style of partnering AND , as a mirror, our preferred partner, all these charts show the same mirroring. For example, the Juno Persona is both our partnering style, the type of partner we are AND, at the same time, the type of partner we attract/need. However, in all those charts we sometimes see some fated configurations - they mostly show the circumstances of us meeting our fated partner (s). I believe there are two layers (at least) of a chart: the psychological layer (profile); the prediction layer (fate).

Since I've been practicing Lenormand lately, I am inviting you for a reading as a "thank you" for you hard work and extensive analysis You can ask any question you like, about your 2015, your future love life, about someone you're interested in etc or something more specific. I will cast the Grand Tableau and interpret it for you!

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posted December 02, 2014 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you, my dear Enneline - the profile sounds very much like my type.

I think that, just like with our DSC, reflecting our style of partnering AND , as a mirror, our preferred partner, all these charts show the same mirroring. For example, the Juno Persona is both our partnering style, the type of partner we are AND, at the same time, the type of partner we attract/need. However, in all those charts we sometimes see some fated configurations - they mostly show the circumstances of us meeting our fated partner (s). I believe there are two layers (at least) of a chart: the psychological layer (profile); the prediction layer (fate).

Since I've been practicing Lenormand lately, I am inviting you for a reading as a "thank you" for you hard work and extensive analysis You can ask any question you like, about your 2015, your future love life, about someone you're interested in etc or something more specific. I will cast the Grand Tableau and interpret it for you!

here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/001592.html

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Yes, but I still don't get it, I mean I am not sure. I mean what you want is not what you get at least not always.

I need to check what fated configurations I see in your personas. I am yet to be sure

posted December 02, 2014 07:13 AM            

I believe we don't get what we want because: 1. we don't look for it in the proper manner 2. there's some karma ahead of us we can't avoid.

I am curious to see what you see as fated markers in there, if any.

posted December 02, 2014 08:04 AM            

Also, I am not sure about quite a few things, e.g. the juno profile: Juno means marriage but does Juno represent you as a spouse or your spouse? Apart from that, Juno is still under astrological discussion.

I need to think about that extensively, will look about some fated markers and would get back to you then

posted December 02, 2014 07:10 PM            

very often one of the angles is in element water; also the asc in earth, seldom in fire.
8th house is often packed and saturn (1x Uranus) is on angle. Sun/venus often in earthy sign. Cancer plays an important role but scorpio is even more important. Sun is often with moon and/or venus.

Hmmm...all in all i would say that you that your destined partner is quite charming, is "deep" inside, maybe even has psychological issues (no, no serial murderer or something). He's just honest to himself that he has issues he has to deal with, like everyone else, that's a REAL man He will be great in bed but he is stable, regarding his emotions. But he has a lively temper actually altough he may come across as down-to-earth.

posted December 03, 2014 07:29 AM            

The same goes for the DSC: first thing I see when I look at someone's DSC profile is how they relate to others in close and "serious" partnerships. Based on this, the person will attract a certain type of people.

Thank you

posted December 03, 2014 09:26 AM            

Assuming we're talking about a free society, where one gets to choose their partner, IMO, there is never a "pure" victim in these cases.

I've been involved with a violent man myself. He was violent only in the end, but still, I hanged in there for a while: breaking up with people we're strongly connected to, emotionally, is not easy and in the blink of an eye.

But his pathological jealousy and rather violent nature has been there almost from the beginning for me to see it if I wanted to and not get involved or get out sooner.

You will always find in the woman's chart (or the man's, men can accept abuse too) a pattern showing tolerance or even attraction towards more shady characters. Let's say attraction towards bad boys. The person may not be aware of it. Or inherited tolerance towards certain behaviors due to lack of alternate models: this is usually the saddest part.

Let's say this is the "shadow" part of oneself, in relationships, reflected in the chart, something we need to integrate in a positive manner.

In my experience as a psychology counselor or the rest of it, if a woman or a man do not find right partners is because they approach relationships wrongly. For example, a common situation nowadays is someone who actually wants a committed soulful connection but approaches partners (or accepts being approached by them) as if they're looking for a sexual affair. One reason this happens nowadays is because the courtship rituals are blurred in comparison to let's say 30 years ago and there's a lot of peer pressure towards a "casual" approach on dating.

To get back to your question, in a free society, nobody forces you to stay with an unsuitable partner for you.

But one needs to know themselves very well and establish what one wants in relationships and behave accordingly, even if this implies disregarding "trends", before getting back there, on the market This is how you have a good chance at getting what you want, IMO.

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posted December 03, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Of course, this is a crucial question for many fields: psychology, sociology, astrology etc.

Assuming we're talking about a free society, where one gets to choose their partner, IMO, there is never a "pure" victim in these cases.

I've been involved with a violent man myself. He was violent only in the end, but still, I hanged in there for a while: breaking up with people we're strongly connected to, emotionally, is not easy and in the blink of an eye.

But his pathological jealousy and rather violent nature has been there almost from the beginning for me to see it if I wanted to and not get involved or get out sooner.

You will always find in the woman's chart (or the man's, men can accept abuse too) a pattern showing tolerance or even attraction towards more shady characters. Let's say attraction towards bad boys. The person may not be aware of it. Or inherited tolerance towards certain behaviors due to lack of alternate models: this is usually the saddest part.

Let's say this is the "shadow" part of oneself, in relationships, reflected in the chart, something we need to integrate in a positive manner.

In my experience as a psychology counselor or the rest of it, if a woman or a man do not find right partners is because they approach relationships wrongly. For example, a common situation nowadays is someone who actually wants a committed soulful connection but approaches partners (or accepts being approached by them) as if they're looking for a sexual affair. One reason this happens nowadays is because the courtship rituals are blurred in comparison to let's say 30 years ago and there's a lot of peer pressure towards a "casual" approach on dating.

To get back to your question, in a free society, nobody forces you to stay with an unsuitable partner for you.

But one needs to know themselves very well and establish what one wants in relationships and behave accordingly, even if this implies disregarding "trends", before getting back there, on the market This is how you have a good chance at getting what you want, IMO.

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posted December 06, 2014 07:17 AM            

I think everyone has his demons and it's our choice to use them either constructively and or destructively.

posted December 06, 2014 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Ah, LeeLoo, you seem to be right; at least you indicate to logical points I never thought about

I think everyone has his demons and it's our choice to use them either constructively and or destructively.

And you don't see any differences about the own personality and the stuff someone attracts?

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Not really. But there's a trick here: that we wear our true personality in the open

posted December 07, 2014 01:49 PM            

The only stuff squaring my ASC is Uranus and Chiron opp Valentine crossing it. This square made me change my appearance a lot since early teenage years and it probably gives me a very Uranian personality, hidden under that Cap ASC lol (considering my interception, even more). Coupled with Cap ASC, it's even more shocking for the others hahahahaha when and if I go wild with my Uranus there. I have no idea what I'll do next or how I'll look like next, so it's a constant surprise for me too

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posted December 08, 2014 05:15 AM            

Didn't that aspect cause troubles in relationships, especially with so-called "love interests"?