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Topic: NN+Venus Synastry: Can we settle this?
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venus2tinkerbell unregistered
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posted November 24, 2014 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by manderin: So... I've been reading up some posts on NN + Venus in Synastry and some say that it's the NN who is more in love, others say it's Venus who is more in love, others say the NN ends up hating Venus.... Will this be the thread to settle it once and for all? Looking up cookbook definitions on this synastry aspect talks too much about next life stuff. Who cares about the next life! Who's into who in this one? 
Hi. Since He (NN) and I (venus) are not in a relationship, I can't say who might be more smitten, but I can tell you how I feel as venus. I just want to drop a love bomb on him. I want to give it all to him. In the past there always seemed to be something about the other person that prevented me from opening up my love completely. If I ever get the chance, I am going all in with this one. And I am learning. I always needed some attention or "love" from the other person for me to stay interested. My heart is full of love for this man, and I don't need anything from him. I haven't seen him in weeks. It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible. I don't think he's ready fo me. It hurts sometimes, but it doesn't frustrate. I love him. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7894 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted November 24, 2014 01:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Hi. Since He (NN) and I (venus) are not in a relationship, I can't say who might be more smitten, but I can tell you how I feel as venus. I just want to drop a love bomb on him. I want to give it all to him. In the past there always seemed to be something about the other person that prevented me from opening up my love completely. If I ever get the chance, I am going all in with this one. And I am learning. I always needed some attention or "love" from the other person for me to stay interested. My heart is full of love for this man, and I don't need anything from him. I haven't seen him in weeks. It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible. I don't think he's ready fo me. It hurts sometimes, but it doesn't frustrate. I love him.
This is so beautiful. True Venus. What is the rest of your synastry? IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7894 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted November 24, 2014 01:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by manderin: So... I've been reading up some posts on NN + Venus in Synastry and some say that it's the NN who is more in love, others say it's Venus who is more in love, others say the NN ends up hating Venus.... 
you obviously have this aspect in your synastry, hun. Are you the Venus? Well, tell us how you feel it.. IP: Logged |
manderin Knowflake Posts: 854 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 24, 2014 02:38 PM
I don't actually. You see, I like to check the synastry of everyone I meet and their friends etc with my own just for learning purposes. But there was this one guy who is a friend of a friend whom I haven't even met. I did his synastry with mine and was surprised that it seems to be really good overall. Moon Trine Moon, Moon trine Sun, Several Saturn sextiles etc.... But my stellium of planets are around his NN- especially venus and Sun which are right smack on top of his NN and I was wondering how this would play out if we did ever meet. Also MY SN is on top of his Mercury and Mars. From what I read on this thread it seems that if we were to meet, I would be the one to "feel" more of something. It's starting to look like, when venus is conjunct the SN it is the SN that feels the love more, but when venus is conjunct the NN it is Venus that feels it more. At least that's what I'm getting from all the posts.IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7894 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted November 24, 2014 03:09 PM
No, it's the Venus in both cases. If you read the posts carefully, you'll see that points like the Nodes do not give but receive. Venus, the planet of love, does the loving, with almost everything she touches.IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2014 04:42 PM
Hi Orange. I am so glad you asked about our synastry. I am really eager to learn about this love, and about myself, so I would LOVE to share with you.I am brand new to this site. Would it be more polite for me to start a new post, and not hijack Mandarin's? Is there some way I can tag you to get your attention? Am I over-thinking? IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2014 04:44 PM
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manderin Knowflake Posts: 854 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 24, 2014 07:12 PM
I personally have no problem with hijacking... unless it involves a plane, which in this case it does not.  " It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible." This is so beautiful Venus2. I'm going to steal it and try to put it in my signature.  P.S. How do I add a signature? IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 1051 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 24, 2014 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Hi. Since He (NN) and I (venus) are not in a relationship, I can't say who might be more smitten, but I can tell you how I feel as venus. I just want to drop a love bomb on him. I want to give it all to him. In the past there always seemed to be something about the other person that prevented me from opening up my love completely. If I ever get the chance, I am going all in with this one. And I am learning. I always needed some attention or "love" from the other person for me to stay interested. My heart is full of love for this man, and I don't need anything from him. I haven't seen him in weeks. It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible. I don't think he's ready fo me. It hurts sometimes, but it doesn't frustrate. I love him.
Aww I like your post very much! In my case, I'm the NN and he's the Venus.. If he was feeling just like how you described, it would mean the world to me and I hope I'm capable of providing the love he deserves. He's a difficult case.. His natal Venus is a peregrine in Libra (his 2nd house), but trines chiron in 10th. I think relationships are really tough for him to handle. I feel it greatly because his chiron conjuncts my DSc. He has a lot of baggage from his past so he's holding himself a lot with me. However, if NN person can show Venus a direction or teach a lesson, I'm glad I might be the one to show the world for him! and so far it has definitely been like that.  IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2014 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by manderin: I personally have no problem with hijacking... unless it involves a plane, which in this case it does not.  " It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible." This is so beautiful Venus2. I'm going to steal it and try to put it in my signature.  P.S. How do I add a signature?
Manderin, I love that you want to use some words I put together to describe what is going on in my heart. It means we are sharing an experience or have shared an experience and you understand. I may be wrong, but I think you can add a signature to your profile, and then tick 'show signature' each time you post or reply. IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2014 10:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: Aww I like your post very much!In my case, I'm the NN and he's the Venus.. If he was feeling just like how you described, it would mean the world to me and I hope I'm capable of providing the love he deserves. He's a difficult case.. His natal Venus is a peregrine in Libra (his 2nd house), but trines chiron in 10th. I think relationships are really tough for him to handle. I feel it greatly because his chiron conjuncts my DSc. He has a lot of baggage from his past so he's holding himself a lot with me. However, if NN person can show Venus a direction or teach a lesson, I'm glad I might be the one to show the world for him! and so far it has definitely been like that. 
A lot of what you described is very new to me. It is like I am learning a new language. I can say though that even if your love can't articulate what he is feeling, and maybe can't even identify with his own feelings, I think in you, he will find an opportunity for expansion. My love and I have a few interesting connections/contacts/aspects, but I think it is his NN conjunct my Venus that gives me this feeling of openness and peace in my love for him. I say this because I know he needs help in love. I know that by giving to him I can teach him, and he of all others (if we ever had a chance) could receive it and understand. And this knowledge (and I honestly don't know where this is coming from) causes my loving feelings to increase for him...AND for my other loved ones  I suspect though that if we were in a relationship and had to deal with each other my sense of inner peace could be tampered with a bit. Even so, I would have grown. IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2014 10:59 PM
He and I met and spent 3 days together for work. That's it. I feel like it was his Pluto square my Sun that we experienced in that short meeting. His Pluto square my Sun that won't let me let go. His Mars conj. my Pluto and his Mars sextile my Neptune that keeps our relationship alive in my sleeping and waking dreams. His Saturn square my Sun that gives me hope for a future. And honestly every time I look at our chart I learn something new.His Sun is in my 8th house. Is there any significance in the fact that my SN falls in my 8th house? My Sun and Venus are in his 1st house. But the one that makes me curious is Chiron opposite Uranus, because of the role Uranus plays in my love life (my natal Uranus sq Asc) and because Chiron represents the wounded healer, and he looks to me like the wounded everything- warrior, lover, healer- and it draws me in... He is absolutely beautiful... and wounded He is a Pisces Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cancer Ascendant
While I am a Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon, Leo Ascendant This is what we look like His...Mine Mars Conjunction Pluto Orb 0°01' Node Conjunction Sun Orb 4°01' Saturn Conjunction Pluto Orb 4°19' Node Conjunction Venus Orb 6°40' Jupiter Conjunction Uranus Orb 7°04' AS Conjunction Venus Orb 8°44' Neptune Conjunction Neptune Orb 8°45' Pluto Conjunction Pluto Orb 9°53' Moon Opposite MC Orb 1°02' Chiron Opposite Uranus Orb 1°59' Jupiter Opposite Moon Orb 2°40' Moon Opposite Moon Orb 3°41' Jupiter Opposite MC Orb 5°19' Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb 6°30' Venus Opposite Mercury Orb 6°46' Venus Opposite AS Orb 7°42' Venus Square Moon Orb 0°28' MC Square Neptune Orb 0°47' Pluto Square Sun Orb 2°07' Mars Square Venus Orb 2°55' Venus Square MC Orb 3°07' Saturn Square Sun Orb 3°26' Chiron Square AS Orb 3°33' Node Square Pluto Orb 3°44' MC Square Mars Orb 3°58' Sun Square Neptune Orb 4°09' Jupiter Square Jupiter Orb 4°19' Jupiter Square Mercury Orb 4°34' Jupiter Square AS Orb 5°30' Mars Trine Mars Orb 1°29' Sun Trine Sun Orb 1°55' MC Trine Uranus Orb 2°02' Node Trine Uranus Orb 3°19' Jupiter Trine Venus Orb 3°42' MC Trine Sun Orb 5°17' MC Trine Venus Orb 5°24' Sun Trine Uranus Orb 5°25' Saturn Trine Mars Orb 5°49' AS Sextile MC Orb 0°18' Jupiter Sextile Saturn Orb 0°56' Mars Sextile AS Orb 1°07' Mars Sextile Neptune Orb 1°41' Mars Sextile Mercury Orb 2°03' Mars Sextile Jupiter Orb 2°19' AS Sextile Moon Orb 2°20' Saturn Sextile Neptune Orb 2°38' Uranus Inconjunction MC Orb 0°04' Chiron Inconjunction Neptune Orb 0°44' Uranus Inconjunction Moon Orb 2°34' Neptune Inconjunction Sun Orb 2°40' Sun SemiSquare Moon Orb 0°10' Moon SemiSquare Neptune Orb 0°18' MC SemiSquare MC Orb 0°32' Pluto SemiSquare Saturn Orb 0°35' Mercury SesquiQuadrate Venus Orb 0°40' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Jupiter Orb 0°55' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Mercury Orb 1°10' Pluto Quintile Mercury Orb 0°01' Pluto Quintile Jupiter Orb 0°13' Lilith Quintile Pluto Orb 0°16' Mercury Quintile Neptune Orb 0°56' Pluto Quintile AS Orb 0°57' Node Quintile Moon Orb 1°04' Jupiter BiQuintile Mars Orb 0°51' Sun BiQuintile AS Orb 0°59' Mercury BiQuintile Sun Orb 1°02' Sun BiQuintile Mercury Orb 1°55' Mars SemiSextile Uranus Orb 0°26'
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posted November 24, 2014 11:02 PM
oh, and please go easy. I already love him  IP: Logged |
manderin Knowflake Posts: 854 From: New York, NY USA Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 12:21 AM
"Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb 6°30' Venus Opposite Mercury Orb 6°46' Venus Opposite AS Orb 7°42' Venus Square Moon Orb 0°28" I had a synastry with a guy I had feelings for where his venus was opposed to my Mercury, Venus, Sun, Jupiter. I never knew how he felt about me because he had to move away. Venus Square Moon probably isn't great, but from what I've read Venus and Jupiter oppositions aren't considered as bad as oppositions from other planets. Supposedly a lot of married couples have venus oppositions.
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YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 1051 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 25, 2014 02:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: A lot of what you described is very new to me. It is like I am learning a new language. I can say though that even if your love can't articulate what he is feeling, and maybe can't even identify with his own feelings, I think in you, he will find an opportunity for expansion. My love and I have a few interesting connections/contacts/aspects, but I think it is his NN conjunct my Venus that gives me this feeling of openness and peace in my love for him. I say this because I know he needs help in love. I know that by giving to him I can teach him, and he of all others (if we ever had a chance) could receive it and understand. And this knowledge (and I honestly don't know where this is coming from) causes my loving feelings to increase for him...AND for my other loved ones  I suspect though that if we were in a relationship and had to deal with each other my sense of inner peace could be tampered with a bit. Even so, I would have grown.
I'm new too! Hehe we are both learning! This is awesome! Funny everything you say feels familiar to me as well and I can relate so much.. I find myself really forgiving and understanding of his pain. I want to give him inner peace and the love he never had.. Maybe NN-Venus is more mutual.. Hmm IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 1051 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 25, 2014 02:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: He and I met and spent 3 days together for work. That's it. I feel like it was his Pluto square my Sun that we experienced in that short meeting. His Pluto square my Sun that won't let me let go. His Mars conj. my Pluto and his Mars sextile my Neptune that keeps our relationship alive in my sleeping and waking dreams. His Saturn square my Sun that gives me hope for a future. And honestly every time I look at our chart I learn something new.His Sun is in my 8th house. Is there any significance in the fact that my SN falls in my 8th house? My Sun and Venus are in his 1st house. But the one that makes me curious is Chiron opposite Uranus, because of the role Uranus plays in my love life (my natal Uranus sq Asc) and because Chiron represents the wounded healer, and he looks to me like the wounded everything- warrior, lover, healer- and it draws me in... He is absolutely beautiful... and wounded He is a Pisces Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cancer Ascendant
While I am a Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon, Leo Ascendant This is what we look like His...Mine Mars Conjunction Pluto Orb 0°01' Node Conjunction Sun Orb 4°01' Saturn Conjunction Pluto Orb 4°19' Node Conjunction Venus Orb 6°40' Jupiter Conjunction Uranus Orb 7°04' AS Conjunction Venus Orb 8°44' Neptune Conjunction Neptune Orb 8°45' Pluto Conjunction Pluto Orb 9°53' Moon Opposite MC Orb 1°02' Chiron Opposite Uranus Orb 1°59' Jupiter Opposite Moon Orb 2°40' Moon Opposite Moon Orb 3°41' Jupiter Opposite MC Orb 5°19' Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb 6°30' Venus Opposite Mercury Orb 6°46' Venus Opposite AS Orb 7°42' Venus Square Moon Orb 0°28' MC Square Neptune Orb 0°47' Pluto Square Sun Orb 2°07' Mars Square Venus Orb 2°55' Venus Square MC Orb 3°07' Saturn Square Sun Orb 3°26' Chiron Square AS Orb 3°33' Node Square Pluto Orb 3°44' MC Square Mars Orb 3°58' Sun Square Neptune Orb 4°09' Jupiter Square Jupiter Orb 4°19' Jupiter Square Mercury Orb 4°34' Jupiter Square AS Orb 5°30' Mars Trine Mars Orb 1°29' Sun Trine Sun Orb 1°55' MC Trine Uranus Orb 2°02' Node Trine Uranus Orb 3°19' Jupiter Trine Venus Orb 3°42' MC Trine Sun Orb 5°17' MC Trine Venus Orb 5°24' Sun Trine Uranus Orb 5°25' Saturn Trine Mars Orb 5°49' AS Sextile MC Orb 0°18' Jupiter Sextile Saturn Orb 0°56' Mars Sextile AS Orb 1°07' Mars Sextile Neptune Orb 1°41' Mars Sextile Mercury Orb 2°03' Mars Sextile Jupiter Orb 2°19' AS Sextile Moon Orb 2°20' Saturn Sextile Neptune Orb 2°38' Uranus Inconjunction MC Orb 0°04' Chiron Inconjunction Neptune Orb 0°44' Uranus Inconjunction Moon Orb 2°34' Neptune Inconjunction Sun Orb 2°40' Sun SemiSquare Moon Orb 0°10' Moon SemiSquare Neptune Orb 0°18' MC SemiSquare MC Orb 0°32' Pluto SemiSquare Saturn Orb 0°35' Mercury SesquiQuadrate Venus Orb 0°40' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Jupiter Orb 0°55' Lilith SesquiQuadrate Mercury Orb 1°10' Pluto Quintile Mercury Orb 0°01' Pluto Quintile Jupiter Orb 0°13' Lilith Quintile Pluto Orb 0°16' Mercury Quintile Neptune Orb 0°56' Pluto Quintile AS Orb 0°57' Node Quintile Moon Orb 1°04' Jupiter BiQuintile Mars Orb 0°51' Sun BiQuintile AS Orb 0°59' Mercury BiQuintile Sun Orb 1°02' Sun BiQuintile Mercury Orb 1°55' Mars SemiSextile Uranus Orb 0°26'
Aww you're a cancer girl! So sweet! Your love is Pisces like me! His moon is the same as my man's haha! No wonder I relate to your beautiful story!  It's the best if you can post images of synastry and composite chart wheels instead! I use photobucket to upload image on here but apparently there's a different website others find better! He's a very emotional man. I read somewhere about Pisces men being uncomfortable in society because it won't allow these men to express their sensitive nature. Men aren't supposed to cry. IP: Logged |
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posted November 25, 2014 03:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by manderin: I personally have no problem with hijacking... unless it involves a plane, which in this case it does not.  " It only hurts when I torture myself with fantasies- and I start to yearn for the tangible." This is so beautiful Venus2. I'm going to steal it and try to put it in my signature.  P.S. How do I add a signature?
Go to your profile, there's an option there. After you add your signature, you need to click "Show Signature" for every post you make.  ------------------
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posted November 25, 2014 04:01 AM
It seems that most people have been Venus?? Do you have more NN stories - you being the NN?------------------
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Belba Knowflake Posts: 596 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 26, 2014 04:57 AM
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6759 From: The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2014 10:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Mars Conjunction Pluto Orb 0°01' Node Conjunction Sun Orb 4°01' Saturn Conjunction Pluto Orb 4°19' Node Conjunction Venus Orb 6°40' Mars Square Venus Orb 2°55' Saturn Square Sun Orb 3°26' Sun SemiSquare Moon Orb 0°10'
That'll do it. SUN/NNODE is the key here, not VENUS/NNODE. It overpowers by an exact conjunction. VENUS is really just along for the ride. SUN/NNODE is curious. An actor I've worked with who I suspected I'd never cross paths with again ended up where I was years later, and we haven't lost touch after that. Despite my quietly doing my job, he was pretty taken with me. He's about 15 years my senior, so I was more startled than anything. He's got this dark NY Italian thing going on, which is SO castable, so, fate would have it that he'd be ideal for a role I'm casting. Then, when we became friends and he made his interest in me crystal clear, I had one dream which featured us dating in another timeline where he's a well-established film actor. So, for me, NODE links -- especially NNODE -- tend to point to these dimensional 'crosslinks'. There we're casually dating, and I'm all starstruck. (Something I can't imagine here, as I've never once felt that.) But it's cute. And I'm probably supposed to help him get his big break here. Oy! It's complicated. And I've kinda been hiding for the past 3 months. My world is pretty awesome. I'm not sure that I want it rocked, to be honest! Last night, my husband says he wants us to start hanging out with him and his wife. And if they hit it off ... oh, lord. I'm hoping the SUN/NNODE isn't trying to introduce me to swinging. NOT that I could imagine a better or more ideal introduction. But, augh. Working together. I have certain lines and boundaries I like to keep from crossing. I'm already in a relationship with my costar. Then to have him as a friend-with-benefits? Jeeeeeeez. I guess I could always say I was trying to balance out the gender dynamics. That male directors shouldn't have ALL the fun. Yeah? Maybe? Yeah, I don't think so, either.  IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6759 From: The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 26, 2014 10:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belba: Hm, the word I used in both cases is.. uncomfortable. Maybe that's the case with all the squares to nodes.
I noticed that. It could very well be the Skipped Step thing kicking into gear. When tSATURN began opposing my nCHIRON 1° square my nNODES, it dredged everything regarding a synastric nTISIPHONE/HADES 0° conjunct it. As tSATURN continued on down the line, it hit my nCHIRON/PREY MP, and then my nPREY. For the grand finale, the 23 October eclipse ignited my nDEJANIRA-TRUTH, 0°. It's been a hard three months. Like I've been constantly bobbing, ducking, and weaving, but still getting hit. Dead-on. It brought out the worst fears -- inexplicable and karmic -- in that relationship. Almost unbearable. And then, one day, as it was nearing 8° it just ... stopped. The pain vanished. The fear. The mysterious foreboding. Feeling like I couldn't do it; couldn't deal with it. Couldn't deal with him. Just ... gone. The trust came back. I could relax again. Love without fear. It was ... WEIRD. I felt as if I was losing my mind, too. And then ... all clicked back in place. To me, it felt like I was confronting the Skipped Step (CHIRON=TISIPHONE/HADES) and then, upon understanding the cause and effect (cycle of violence that must be resolved and ended through love and trust) I suppose I suddenly could actually do what needed to be done. The Nodal squares are definitely impacting. IP: Logged |
krysalismoon Newflake Posts: 11 From: New York Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 05:11 PM
I'll chime in as I've been researching this because of a love I can't let go of recently. (Long post warning.) We have a LOT of nodal conversations happening (conjunctions, sextiles, squares, and more. 18 nodal conversations in all). Please keep that in mind as you read. But I'll highlight the squares and then talk about how it felt to be with him. Him :: Me His Venus Sq my Nodes His Neptune Sq my Nodes His Ceres Sq my Nodes My Moon Sq his Nodes My Uranus Sq his Nodes My Mars Sesquisquadrate his Nodes To amplify, here are the conjunctions: My Lilith Conj his NN My Pallas Athene conj his SN His Jupiter Conj my NN His Saturn Conj my NN When he came into my life, I had a 7th house stellium of Venus, the sun, the North Node and the moon. My astrologer at the time swore he was the one. That we'd be married soon. Her astrology mentor looked over the chart and confirmed it. It was always long distance. We were cross-country and star-crossed for about 1.5 years. He raised the bar and broke the mold for all other men who have followed. None compare to him: the way he felt, the way he took on challenges, the way he honored his needs when he worked (travel and work) the way he gave to me, made love to me, the way I felt in his presence - both the good and the bad. I loved who he was but felt like I was "too much" for him based on things he would say, ways he would respond to my requests for emotional presence. Not necessarily support, just presence. I told him I didn't want him to become different for me. That I thought we just weren't a fit. That there would be someone who could "keep it light;" with whom he could be exactly who he was. He actively shut down conversations when I'd ask about his past with other women, his feelings/thoughts/dreams about his work. I challenged him to be real with me and everyone in his life, to make his heart more fully available. He thanked me for the ways I helped him grow. He said he wished I was more patient with him while he learned. He told me he was a better person because of me. He told me that all of his friends and family noticed that he was a different person since being with me. That he was more open, more friendly, more curious, asked more questions, more available. My friends and family told me I had softened. I wasn't as fierce. And that I must be an incredibly patient woman given how little he gave me emotionally to work with. Men I've dated have remarked on my ability to see them fully, my ability to receive from them and let them in. He told me early on, "Oh I see what the problem is here! I am excited to give and you have a challenge receiving." So observant. I now know, this level of observation and attention are also love. But at the time, I didn't know. I didn't see that as an act of love. So I wanted something different. In the end, I cried when I broke up with him (twice.) I wanted it to work SO bad, but I felt like there was no room for the "real me" in our relationship. He wanted me, showed me he loved me in a million different ways that I can only now see. But emotionally, he pushed me away often. Then, just as I thought we were going to figure it out, just as I had come to clarity that he was emotionally distant because he was recovering from a 6 year emotionally abusive relationship with someone who used her emotional range to manipulate him... He met someone else. He moved across the country to be with her. He moved to the city I live in, the city he said he could never see himself in. I was always too scared to give us that chance. He was always too scared to take it given how skittish I was. I'm still recovering from the heartbreak. Then he just disappeared. Stopped responding. All together. After telling me he wanted us to be friends, that it would only be a "slight shift" in the way we interact now. Toward the end, he became everything I wanted. And knowing that he was dealing with trauma gave me even more compassion and understanding. So it hurt even more when he gave up on us. But what choice did I give him? I broke up with him twice. So...when I look at the aspects as a fuller conversation and story, what I see is that in a Nodal-Square relationship, BOTH parties feel the pull. And between he and I, the nodal person was the student, the planet person the facilitator of the lesson. With him, I became more open to receive (his Ceres Sq my nodes). I learned how to let someone love me (his Venus Sq my nodes). And how to receive love with more than just words (both). I learned how to let a man expand my experience of life as part of how he loves me (his Jupiter Conj my nodes). I let a man inspire my work ethic and vision (his Saturn Conj my NN AND Neptune Sq my nodes.) What I want from relationship and my ability to receive it are permanently and irrevocably upleveled. What I desire and dream of when I think of relationship is colored by what we had. (His Neptune Sq my nodes.) After we split, I gave birth to some of my most profound thought leadership. Based on many of the lessons I learned in loving myself enough to let him go when I deemed him "not a match." It was in the process of letting him go that he was inspired to begin the transformation (My Uranus Sq his nodes). Never when I expressed my feelings and needs within the relationship. The irony of it! From what I can see from him, he learned masculine emotional presence (my Mars and Moon sq his nodes). He learned how to be with someone's feelings but not own them (my Pallas Athene conj his SN; My Lilith conj his NN. Both of his nodes anchored by my Pallas Athene and Lilith. A woman in this situation would sooner run or fight you for your emotional integrity than settle for anything less. In this way, I wonder if he felt backed into a corner with me.) He grew into someone who can deal with feelings (his/others) with quiet confidence and no need to run (my Mars Sesquisquadrate his Nodes; my moon Sq his nodes). How to let another feel in his presence but not make it about him (all of the above.) In other words, we gave birth to one another. To be honest, I'm still reeling from the experience. He only just disappeared in June after meeting this new woman and deciding to move to my city to be with her. It's now November. And it hurts like it was last week. My moon in Scorpio seems to want to suck the marrow out of this lesson. And with the Saturn Sagittarius transit in my 12th house right now...I hope I can get it and move on sooner rather than later. Feels like I'm trapped in funhouse and all the crazy mirrors keep reflecting memories of him and us together.) Here's a little extra detail for those studying: Our NN/SN axis details ME: NN Virgo 9th house / SN Pisces 3rd house. HIM: NN Leo 11th house / SN Aquarius 5th house. The lessons we both learned at one another's feet could clearly have only been taught by the other. Moon and Venus placements: ME: Moon in Scorpio 11th house / Venus in Pisces 3rd house. HIM: Moon in Libra 1st house / Venus in Gemini 9th house. IP: Logged |
krysalismoon Newflake Posts: 11 From: New York Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 12, 2015 05:12 PM
I'll chime in as I've been researching this because of a love I can't let go of recently. (Long post warning.) We have a LOT of nodal conversations happening (conjunctions, sextiles, squares, and more. 18 nodal conversations in all). Please keep that in mind as you read. But I'll highlight the squares and then talk about how it felt to be with him. Him :: Me His Venus Sq my Nodes His Neptune Sq my Nodes His Ceres Sq my Nodes My Moon Sq his Nodes My Uranus Sq his Nodes My Mars Sesquisquadrate his Nodes To amplify, here are the conjunctions: My Lilith Conj his NN My Pallas Athene conj his SN His Jupiter Conj my NN His Saturn Conj my NN When he came into my life, I had a 7th house stellium of Venus, the sun, the North Node and the moon. My astrologer at the time swore he was the one. That we'd be married soon. Her astrology mentor looked over the chart and confirmed it. It was always long distance. We were cross-country and star-crossed for about 1.5 years. He raised the bar and broke the mold for all other men who have followed. None compare to him: the way he felt, the way he took on challenges, the way he honored his needs when he worked (travel and work) the way he gave to me, made love to me, the way I felt in his presence - both the good and the bad. I loved who he was but felt like I was "too much" for him based on things he would say, ways he would respond to my requests for emotional presence. Not necessarily support, just presence. I told him I didn't want him to become different for me. That I thought we just weren't a fit. That there would be someone who could "keep it light;" with whom he could be exactly who he was. He actively shut down conversations when I'd ask about his past with other women, his feelings/thoughts/dreams about his work. I challenged him to be real with me and everyone in his life, to make his heart more fully available. He thanked me for the ways I helped him grow. He said he wished I was more patient with him while he learned. He told me he was a better person because of me. He told me that all of his friends and family noticed that he was a different person since being with me. That he was more open, more friendly, more curious, asked more questions, more available. My friends and family told me I had softened. I wasn't as fierce. And that I must be an incredibly patient woman given how little he gave me emotionally to work with. Men I've dated have remarked on my ability to see them fully, my ability to receive from them and let them in. He told me early on, "Oh I see what the problem is here! I am excited to give and you have a challenge receiving." So observant. I now know, this level of observation and attention are also love. But at the time, I didn't know. I didn't see that as an act of love. So I wanted something different. In the end, I cried when I broke up with him (twice.) I wanted it to work SO bad, but I felt like there was no room for the "real me" in our relationship. He wanted me, showed me he loved me in a million different ways that I can only now see. But emotionally, he pushed me away often. Then, just as I thought we were going to figure it out, just as I had come to clarity that he was emotionally distant because he was recovering from a 6 year emotionally abusive relationship with someone who used her emotional range to manipulate him... He met someone else. He moved across the country to be with her. He moved to the city I live in, the city he said he could never see himself in. I was always too scared to give us that chance. He was always too scared to take it given how skittish I was. I'm still recovering from the heartbreak. Then he just disappeared. Stopped responding. All together. After telling me he wanted us to be friends, that it would only be a "slight shift" in the way we interact now. Toward the end, he became everything I wanted. And knowing that he was dealing with trauma gave me even more compassion and understanding. So it hurt even more when he gave up on us. But what choice did I give him? I broke up with him twice. So...when I look at the aspects as a fuller conversation and story, what I see is that in a Nodal-Square relationship, BOTH parties feel the pull. And between he and I, the nodal person was the student, the planet person the facilitator of the lesson. With him, I became more open to receive (his Ceres Sq my nodes). I learned how to let someone love me (his Venus Sq my nodes). And how to receive love with more than just words (both). I learned how to let a man expand my experience of life as part of how he loves me (his Jupiter Conj my nodes). I let a man inspire my work ethic and vision (his Saturn Conj my NN AND Neptune Sq my nodes.) What I want from relationship and my ability to receive it are permanently and irrevocably upleveled. What I desire and dream of when I think of relationship is colored by what we had. (His Neptune Sq my nodes.) After we split, I gave birth to some of my most profound thought leadership. Based on many of the lessons I learned in loving myself enough to let him go when I deemed him "not a match." It was in the process of letting him go that he was inspired to begin the transformation (My Uranus Sq his nodes). Never when I expressed my feelings and needs within the relationship. The irony of it! From what I can see from him, he learned masculine emotional presence (my Mars and Moon sq his nodes). He learned how to be with someone's feelings but not own them (my Pallas Athene conj his SN; My Lilith conj his NN. Both of his nodes anchored by my Pallas Athene and Lilith. A woman in this situation would sooner run or fight you for your emotional integrity than settle for anything less. In this way, I wonder if he felt backed into a corner with me.) He grew into someone who can deal with feelings (his/others) with quiet confidence and no need to run (my Mars Sesquisquadrate his Nodes; my moon Sq his nodes). How to let another feel in his presence but not make it about him (all of the above.) In other words, we gave birth to one another. To be honest, I'm still reeling from the experience. He only just disappeared in June after meeting this new woman and deciding to move to my city to be with her. It's now November. And it hurts like it was last week. My moon in Scorpio seems to want to suck the marrow out of this lesson. And with the Saturn Sagittarius transit in my 12th house right now...I hope I can get it and move on sooner rather than later. Feels like I'm trapped in funhouse and all the crazy mirrors keep reflecting memories of him and us together.) Here's a little extra detail for those studying: Our NN/SN axis details ME: NN Virgo 9th house / SN Pisces 3rd house. HIM: NN Leo 11th house / SN Aquarius 5th house. The lessons we both learned at one another's feet could clearly have only been taught by the other. Moon and Venus placements: ME: Moon in Scorpio 11th house / Venus in Pisces 3rd house. HIM: Moon in Libra 1st house / Venus in Gemini 9th house. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6759 From: The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 12, 2015 05:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by krysalismoon: His Venus Sq my Nodes
That's all that I needed to see. Do you have anything square your own NODES, which is conjunct his VENUS? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4123 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 12, 2015 05:46 PM
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