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vanessa
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posted January 07, 2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear all,

I know venus-mars synastry topic has been discussed in this forum but could you help me out here please. I have a venus opposition mars in synastry with a guy i'm close with, he's the venus i'm the mars. From the limited info i got on internet, this aspect indicates a bad timing for two people in relationship. I have always been close with him but there are time where i felt my advances were unwelcomed and when i decided to pull he intensely pursued me.

What do you think this aspect entails and how to handle the energy. I don't have his birth time hence i can't post full chart, appreciate if you could advise me regarding this aspect isolating other possible interventing aspect in synastry/natal.

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posted January 07, 2012 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This just sounds like a really difficult combination. I'm surprised that you feel the way you do being the Mars person though.

The timing is not the issue here; you are compelled to chase this guy but guys don't like girls who pursue them. You are coming off as being very aggressive to him. It doesn't mean you should change yourself; he's just not the right one for you.

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posted January 07, 2012 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Capriquarius (cute name btw).

Thanks for the prompt reply. Could you please advise what you meant when you said you're surprised with what i felt, being the mars person. Surely i felt strong attraction with him, being the mars person, but there are times where his advances turned me off. But when it kicks in, i'm obsessed.

Now is that phase where i couldn't careless about him and all i can see is him/his messages everywhere.

Thanks.

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posted January 07, 2012 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it sounds like you are the sensitive one in this interaction. That's supposed to be how the Venus person feels, if I recall correctly.

Thanks for not getting too offended
Cuz I'm mainly reciting what some official astrologer said in a book or a website, or one of the world-class ones on this very board

Ttyl!

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posted January 07, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear all,

Anybody can help me on this one?

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posted January 08, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it has to be said (again) that this was the most erotic/lascivious experience of my whole life (in my 37th year).

His Leo-venus opp. my Aqua-Mars but then there was also his Scorp-mars conjunct my Scorp-Moon... so! (yeayea.. my Moon/Mars square with his Venus/Mars square)

Ok, maybe not the right 'timing' for a relationship but it changed my life for worse and better. For worse because I can't find it again and I only seem to attract the watered-down versions of it and for better as I wouldn't want to have missed it for ANYTHING in the world.. simply knowing that such an experience can exist with the chance to ever find it again...!? Because of the extreme high intensity prob. not very relationship-prone..

but I will not rest before I find another V-M square in these signs linked ofcourse with my Moon/Mars to kiss with..

And.. I did find one recently! But.. I've not kissed yet... so you'll have to wait for the result

Watch out what you wish for..??

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posted January 08, 2012 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know. The high intensity, yes. But it never pass through the initial stage of flirtation.

How do you think the venus person feels?

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posted January 10, 2012 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping.

Dear my talended astrologers friend. Could you help me on this one please.

Thank you.

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posted January 12, 2012 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping

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posted January 12, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would constitute a hard aspect in the natal can sometimes be a "complimentary opposition" in synastry.

Venus opposite Mars in this case would be one.

Mars is more likely to set the pace or be the initiator. Much depends on the rest of the comparison.

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posted January 16, 2012 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 16, 2012 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Vanessa -
I definitely prefer the opposition to the conjunction. There is more mutual respect and you don't take each other for granted.
With the conjunction - there are too many similarities and in time you both have the expectation that the other person will 'fulfill' you when actually they are exactly like you.
The opposition is more like two halves of a whole coming together.

I've only been Venus in the opposition - but I'm a girl so that could be different. I felt like he was very sure from the very start that he is into me and that has never changed throughout the years. Our opposition is in fixed signs - so that's another thing.. maybe it's more 'stable'.
I feel very valuable and beautiful when I'm around him. His presence makes me feel confident & happy. I also care about him a lot. He's an awesome person!

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posted January 16, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Betty,

Thanks for the reply.

His venus is badly aspected (opposition saturn,uranus and neptune) while my mars is not aspected.

I feel very much obsessed about him and like you said, i know exactly that i want him.

I just wonder whether he feels the same way or whether he takes me for granted.

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posted May 24, 2012 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krystie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen this aspect involving a third party break up an already established relationship. In this instance the third person (female) had the mars in libra and she pursued the man who had the venus in aries.

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posted May 24, 2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have this as well. My Venus is Opposite my wife's Mars. We have been very happily married for 19 years. So, this again proves that astrological interpretations don't always come true.

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posted May 25, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember another thread on Venus/Mars aspects where someone also asked if it has to be the man's mars and the woman's venus, and this was a very helpful response:

quote:
No it doesn't actually, I didn't express myself properly. The attraction is still the same, as it is still Venus and Mars involved in the opposition aspect. The books just say that when it is woman's Mars and men's Venus, that it is perhaps the woman who is that bit more sexually agressive in the relationship, as she is the one with Mars (the principle of aggression and assertion).
Here I will copy something I've found on some astro discussions, here they are :
"A few key aspects/interactions that I've noticed in successful
*romantic* relationships among my family and friends are:
-a (preferably exact) opposition between mars and venus. Could be either
person's mars or venus. And I've continually noticed the opposition, not the
conj. or the trine. Search me as to why but it may be good for that special
chemical interaction that is so very essential esp. in the beginning of a
relationship. Remember Arroyo said in his book that ANY opposition is an
aspect of stimulation? Maybe that's part of it. END.
And another oppionion :
"....Yeah well, while it's true that most synastry is bound to include hard
aspects, I definitely think that "sexual chemistry" involves the working
of the more dynamic cross-aspects. ( and I think such aspects have to be
present between particular planets, either in or ruling specific
houses ).
While the easy cross-aspects may indicate a compatible and shared
perspective, which in turn leads to understanding, friendship, like
interests and so on, they don't really have the kind of erotic energy
that creates that all inclusive "It" factor.
Of all the dynamic cross aspects, I believe the opposition is the one
that generates the most sexual stimulus. The opposition involves two
planets that are looking at each other directly, and this polarity is
what feels like that all too familiar "pull" that anyone who has
experienced it knows only too well!" END.
My own experience of the opposition is that it is extremely strong, so strong to be almost unbearable...I myself have Stephen Arroyo's Book (Relationships and life cycles), and he calls oppositions "the aspect of stimulation", and says that some oppositions are "over-stimulating". I do believe that he means Venus-Mars here.
Selena.

Also, I know a happy couple who has the opposition (the man has the mars, the woman has the venus) and she definitely was the one to initiate things. He liked her a lot but she was the one who made the move and did most of the pursuing.

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posted May 25, 2012 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the thread, there are many many good replies
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007538-2.html

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posted May 25, 2012 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He liked her a lot but she was the one who made the move and did most of the pursuing.

I've never had this happen. I attract men with their Mars conj or opposite mine. I am definitely more attracted with the opposition but the reason I like them so much is because they are very forward, emotionally open and aggressive. They don't hide their attraction towards me at *all*... This is something I really appreciate, since I don't play games either.
But the signs are Taurus (my Venus) and Scorpio (their Mars).
Maybe that's why it is more classically male-female - between us.

What were the Venus/Mars placements of the couple you mentioned?

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posted May 25, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I've never had this happen. I attract men with their Mars conj or opposite mine. I am definitely more attracted with the opposition but the reason I like them so much is because they are very forward, emotionally open and aggressive. They don't hide their attraction towards me at *all*... This is something I really appreciate, since I don't play games either.
But the signs are Taurus (my Venus) and Scorpio (their Mars).
Maybe that's why it is more classically male-female - between us.

What were the Venus/Mars placements of the couple you mentioned?



Oh. I just went to look up their chart and I am, in fact, a fail...turns out she was the mars. Oops. Her mars is in gemini and his venus is in sagittarius which probably liked the confidence. They also have mars trine mars.

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posted May 25, 2012 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, odette you mentioned you are more attracted with the opposition...do you mind elaborating why that is? I am the same way. I much prefer that or the square to a conjunction or a trine, but I don't know why

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posted May 26, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH Ok!! That makes more sense then! ^^

With the conjunction I find Mars disrespectful, too much like a bull in a China shop.. and unable to really appreciate me. They take me for granted. I also find them sexually lazy (but this might just be the sign - since it is Taurus).. and I need a guy who is more energetic and also dominant. They think all they need to do is look pretty and that I should be thankful for that. We do have a strong sexual attraction, specially in the initial stages... but the actual act of sex is a huge anti-climax. They really do not understand female sexuality (from my perspective)... The average Taurus Mars guy wants to prop himself on a couch drinking beer and watching football. If I can also maybe enter than picture and bounce on his balls - it would just be a bonus.. There is no emotion or psychological understanding of sex.
My Mars is trine theirs - I have Cap Mars.. but my Mars is conj Neptune so I am more romantic... and I don't like their approach at all.

With the opposition - Mars is highly respectful - they see me as beautiful and are very proud & happy to have me by their side... so they show me that I am appreciated and that they value me. They also have a high sex drive and LOTS of energy - but Mars is dignified in Scorpio... so they are very manly. It suits me - We kind of just 'fit' together like two peas in a pod. I am very welcoming and open to their energy.. so whenever they initiate something - I'm more than happy to go with it. They make me feel genuinely *cared for*. The way they do this is so sweet - I can't help but fall in love This being a water Mars - they are emotional about sex.. and they understand my own emotions - so we can connect on a more emotional/psychological level -- which I can't do with Taurus Mars.

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posted May 26, 2012 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
... but guys don't like girls who pursue them. You are coming off as being very aggressive to him.

Correction, YOU do not like girls who pursue guys. This is NOT the general, accepted standard. You'd actually be surprised HOW many men secretly would like, or are (just as secretly) glad for women pursuing them.

But I'll agree that the way this aspect is operating (is it closer to a true opposition or a quindecile? The latter is infinitely more obsessive in nature) it may seem that with THIS fellow, HE may feel more comfortable being the Mars and doing the pursuing.

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posted May 26, 2012 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vanessa:
Dear all,

Anybody can help me on this one?


It's true that Venus-Mars oppositions will have that push-pull, here-not, attraction-repulsion thing; that's just how they are. Granted, being the Mars, you SHOULD be the one in pursuit; I agree. I've always read it as the one whose Mars aspects does the pursuing. BUT. That's not JUST to Venus.

Look at ALL your aspects. Whose Mars is more active? Whose Venus?

Also, if you haven't yet, see what my fave 'love 'roids' are up to: EROS, (433 - soul attraction to the point of controversy) PSYCHE, (16 - the softer side of the soul attraction - more psychological, ethereal, and generally drawn to Eros), VALENTINE, (447 - willing to go great lengths for the loved one, rather sacrificial in this sense) AMOR, (1221 - our capacity for unconditional love; where we love this way) and SAPPHO (80 - in heterosexual relations, represents carnal desires and sexual expression, different from Eros; this isn't about soul, but physicality).

Check those out, too.

-A.

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posted May 26, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Hi Vanessa -
I definitely prefer the opposition to the conjunction. There is more mutual respect and you don't take each other for granted.
With the conjunction - there are too many similarities and in time you both have the expectation that the other person will 'fulfill' you when actually they are exactly like you.
The opposition is more like two halves of a whole coming together.

I've only been Venus in the opposition - but I'm a girl so that could be different. I felt like he was very sure from the very start that he is into me and that has never changed throughout the years. Our opposition is in fixed signs - so that's another thing.. maybe it's more 'stable'.
I feel very valuable and beautiful when I'm around him. His presence makes me feel confident & happy. I also care about him a lot. He's an awesome person!


Interesting! I've never had a Venus-Mars opp I liked. For some reason, I'm drawn to the quindeciles. His Mars quindecile my Venus. SO passionate and obsessive - even if it takes years to come to fruition. Seems to be worth it!

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posted June 07, 2012 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanessa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well well, thanks for the informative replies.
Lately i refrained my self from pursuing and cause he activated my mars so much i channeled my mars energy to work - i suddenly became a true workaholic.

All of the sudden i noticed something that i overlooked - we have moon - mars opposition. He's the mars i'm the moon. Which is why when i'm being elusive i sense him 'panicking' and start to text me, ask me out etc.

So i have moon-mars sextile in my natal, linked with his venus - mars square. It's crazy sexy energy. I can't walk away from this, i want him too much.

On top of everything, i'm currently in my saturn return! i need to focus my self on my life but him just being him is a beautiful distraction i'd like to take home

But the moon-mars opposition energy which i'm starting to feel lately is a nice addition to venus-mars opposition. It's nice being a girly girl and let him do the chasing.

But it hasn't taken off into something 'official' between us hence the lunatic cycle.

I need help, sigh.

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