posted December 22, 2014 11:59 PM            

So Person A is ARIES rising, with a 10H CAP MOON opposite CAN URA, conjunct Person B's CAN MOON?

posted December 23, 2014 01:56 AM            

In my experience, lunar (or any, but especially lunar) energy is channelled and directed into the house over which it overlays. Despite natal hard aspects -- a MOON in 10H opposing 4H URA -- the synastry and its house overlay will always be present in some fashion. In your specific case, his lunar energy embodies the 10H features, but yours brings balance by overlaying into the 4H. Is it conjunct the IC, too?

Of course, a 4H URA obviously had a tumultuous and unpredictable upbringing; may be quite nomadic, or just very unconventional in terms of what's considered home. Your MOON could have a helluva time with that, if it's used to everything being more structured. 10H MOONs aren't exactly effusive, either -- but they do like stability. He's likely to be in a constant war against his own emotional roots, seeking to build a stable, structured, and respectable home base.

Your emotions would naturally be down with this plan, with your MOON in his 4H. You're going to be unconsciously oriented to helping with that home base, and 'feathering' the nest. Not a bad placement.

I think in this sense, the oppositional 10H and 4H lunar energies bring balance to each other, rather than create repulsion or friction.

posted December 23, 2014 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ahhh. Got it. Very good question; overall, I feel you're overcomplicating, though.

In my experience, lunar (or any, but especially lunar) energy is channelled and directed into the house over which it overlays. Despite natal hard aspects -- a MOON in 10H opposing 4H URA -- the synastry and its house overlay will always be present in some fashion. In your specific case, his lunar energy embodies the 10H features, but yours brings balance by overlaying into the 4H. Is it conjunct the IC, too?

Of course, a 4H URA obviously had a tumultuous and unpredictable upbringing; may be quite nomadic, or just very unconventional in terms of what's considered home. Your MOON could have a helluva time with that, if it's used to everything being more structured. 10H MOONs aren't exactly effusive, either -- but they do like stability. He's likely to be in a constant war against his own emotional roots, seeking to build a stable, structured, and respectable home base.

Your emotions would naturally be down with this plan, with your MOON in his 4H. You're going to be unconsciously oriented to helping with that home base, and 'feathering' the nest. Not a bad placement.

I think in this sense, the oppositional 10H and 4H lunar energies bring balance to each other, rather than create repulsion or friction.

That's just my take. Aries rising are bold individuals, who definitely need to learn some lessons regarding family and interpersonal relations of all kinds.

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Aubyanne, thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. I haven't focused on house overlays until now, so I don't know if I'm overcomplicating this or not.

My Moon is six degrees from his IC, so not conjunct.

posted December 24, 2014 11:51 AM            

This reminds me a little bit of the synastry I had with a guy. My Moon is conjunct his Mercury, opposite Uranus, square Saturn and on his IC.

I know that he affected me A LOT!
It felt as if I had known him forever and I still think about him all the time.

posted December 24, 2014 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000794.html

This reminds me a little bit of the synastry I had with a guy. My Moon is conjunct his Mercury, opposite Uranus, square Saturn and on his IC.

I know that he affected me A LOT!
It felt as if I had known him forever and I still think about him all the time.

In my case it was that I felt more being the Moon person and him being the H4 person. I don't know about you.

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Helix, thanks, I really appreciate your input on this, and knowing someone else has gone through a similar experience.

It's exactly the same feelings with this man. He felt like home and family to me. I think about him all the time too! He had a Moon-Uranus opposition square Saturn in Libra in the 7th house (t-square). He was paranoid about relationships and emotionally erratic. A Mercury-Uranus opposition square Saturn can be mentally erratic, contradictory, and maybe paranoid as well.

posted December 24, 2014 10:56 PM            

I have some trouble reading the astro charts without degrees, but it looks like he has a natal Venus-Pluto opposition. Given the t-square, the 7th house Saturn, the Aquarius Moon, and Venus-Pluto, I bet he's spent a lot of time alone and/or had turbulent relationships with women.

There are other similarities between the two. Their SN/NN in our H1 and H7 respectively. Sun conjunct their Pluto.

Also, you've got Pluto in H7 and that resonates with his Venus-Pluto.

posted December 26, 2014 03:32 PM            

I also didn't expect to fall in love before I met him. I had other things going on in my life when I started working where he was. I wasn't in that mindset at all.
And it wasn't that we clicked right away, had easy conversations and all that.
But there was just this inexplainable pull towards him, the need to have him around all the time. I admit that it was partly infatuation but more so a feeling that he was vital to my well being. I can't really explain it.

When he left, instead of feeling pain it was more a feeling of vast emptiness and it hasn't gotten better over the months.

posted December 27, 2014 12:48 AM            

A couple of additional thoughts...

Your Mars-Venus likes his unpredictability, but up close and over time, I don't think your Taurus Moon would.

He's also got a Mars in Pisces square Neptune. I don't get a good feeling about this aspect, seems untrustworthy, illusive, who slips through your fingers or that you can never get a hold of.

posted December 27, 2014 09:24 AM            

As I said, Mars also squares Uranus which is my H12 ruler.

Can't escape that, I guess.

posted December 27, 2014 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
I have a loose Sun-Neptune square, somehow I'm always attracted to guys with a Mars-Neptune aspect.

As I said, Mars also squares Uranus which is my H12 ruler.

Can't escape that, I guess.

Maybe I did dodge a bullet, I just wish I could leave it all behind already.

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I don't know, Helix, maybe we're not meant to "leave it all behind" as you say. Maybe we're meant to yield to the archetypal experience of Love to shake us to our core, and in the deep silences to work our way to the union with our soul's beloved.

I don't know if you're interested in poetry, but I'd like to share this poem. The poet had married at the age of 31 I believe a girl of 16. Shortly after their marriage, he woke up one morning to find her lying beside him, but she had died during the night. This poem was written late in his life, and speaks to the mending and healing of that heartbreak that occurred in him so long ago. It is rightly one of his most celebrated poems.

Last night as I was sleeping,
I dreamt- blessed illusion!-
That there was a spring breaking
out in my heart.
I said: Along what secret aqueduct,
Oh water, are you coming to me,
water of a new life
that I have never drunk?
 
Last night as I was sleeping,
I dreamt- blessed illusion!-
That there was a beehive
here inside my heart.
And the golden bees
were making white combs
and sweet honey
from my old failures.
 
Last night as I was sleeping,
I dreamt-blessed illusion!-
There was a fiery sun
here in my heart.
It was fiery because it gave warmth
as if from a hearth,
and it was sun because it gave light
and brought tears to my eyes.
 
Last night as I was sleeping
I dreamt-blessed illusion!-
That it was God I had
here in my heart.

Antonio Machado

posted January 01, 2015 03:34 PM            

The poem is just beautiful! I haven't read it before. The name of the poet suggests that the original language he wrote in was Spanish, I searched for the poem in Spanish. And it's even more beautiful!
Thanks for posting it!

posted January 01, 2015 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
If you're trying to deduce his emotional state, you might want to mention where his MOON falls in your chart, since it pertains to your perspective. If in your 12H, it may always be a mystery to you. The other water houses - 4 & 8 - are also quite secretive and tight-lipped.

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Thanks for your comments, Blind writer. My Moon falls in his 6H. I often cooked for him and brought him food because he often went without food. Also, I was concerned about his health issues. Or, do these have more to do with my Saturn in his 6H?

posted January 01, 2015 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
Oh Peony, I totally forgot to reply!
Maybe you are right, maybe we really have to experience all that...

The poem is just beautiful! I haven't read it before. The name of the poet suggests that the original language he wrote in was Spanish, I searched for the poem in Spanish. And it's even more beautiful!
Thanks for posting it!

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Helix, I'm glad that you liked the Machado poem. Now, I'm going to have to find someone to read it aloud to me in Spanish!!