posted January 26, 2015 03:43 PM            

In this case it is exact.

posted January 27, 2015 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Where does it come from? Two natal Saturn/NN? It is interesting to compare it with Saturn in the natals, how strong is it in there and does it have any connection with the nodes in their natals?

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Hi LeeLoo! I was just thinking about you earlier...haven't seen you around.

In this case, man's NN in Gemini, woman's NN tightly trine his, in Libra. Then, both of them have Saturn in Leo (big age difference) so it all comes to a head at 14 Leo: comp NN-Saturn. Exactly square Juno.

posted January 27, 2015 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by alyssa27:
i have it with my bf 1 degree orb..ours come from two conjunctions in synastry..saturn is composite dsc house ruler..i think it's a karmic and binding aspect

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Thank you, alyssa, I was looking for some optimism.

posted January 27, 2015 07:30 PM            

They are sort of in a relationship...it's on hold due to difficult circumstances.

posted January 29, 2015 07:04 AM              

I don't think that's the case with Saturn/NN though; it's a very powerful placement and Saturn to nodal axis in the composite is the trademark of long-term relationships.

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posted January 29, 2015 01:59 PM            

Here is the composite in question:

Saturn's ruler, the sun, is pretty close to the MC, and conjunct Venus. (Yes, these are accurate birth times.)

Plus they have a composite Sag ASC, so sun in the 9H is fitting. Chart ruler in the 9H as well.

posted January 29, 2015 02:29 PM              

SN 24 Virgo
Mars 26 Virgo
Saturn 28 Virgo

it`s squaring Chiron on 23 Sagittarius
AMOR on the NN on 26 PIsces

(it`s a rather funny random note, that in my composite with Mr Sag there is some sort of connection, though weaker maybe, between Mars, Saturn, NN and Amor as well, as Mars and Amor are on our NN, and Saturn is sextile all of them)

Anyway back to my parents.
the dispositor of their SN is Mercury in Sagittarius in 5th house, conjunct the chartruler Sun.
and trine Pluto in 1st house.
The dispositor of their NN is Neptune in Libra in 3rd house, square Moon, but more closely sextile Pluto in 1st and Sun in 5th.
In fact that puts Neptune onto their Sun/Pluto-mp.

While all of that sounds rather taxing, exhausting, maybe dreadful (I suppose more than one astrologer would have pressed the "red alert button", especially seeing Mars-Saturn on the SN with a square to Chiron to boot) - experiences tells us they have been married for 40 years now and are still very much in love and loving each other.

I wonder though if the Chiron in 5th house squaring the nodal axis, represents their skipped step and karmic "task" and if the fact that my brother was born with the Down syndrome is described in here.
Of course they love him to bits, but nevertheless it means that the taking care will never end. He will ALWAYS need special assistance, and yes that includes me as big sister as well (in fact THEIR composite Chiron is only 2-3 degrees off my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction).
Well maybe I was part of their task as well. lol

They also were taking care of my maternal granddad and paternal grandma when it became necesary, and this is definitely not an easy thing to do.

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posted January 29, 2015 08:57 PM            

Thanks so much for your input, about your parents.

My friend and this man definitely have a lot of obstacles in store for them, if they marry. Mainly because this will be his second marriage and he is so much older.

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saturn on the nodal axis. You don`t just walk away from Saturn.

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posted January 29, 2015 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Very interesting the perfect Juno square. It seems a major theme of this relationship is to learn everything about being a 12th house Scorpio partner to each other (not to mention Neptune there) IC being in Pisces, this is deeply karmic and connected to IC as well.

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Neptune in the 11th, but you are spot on about how important Scorpio and the 12th is for them.

In the pr composite they have an exact sun-Neptune-MC conjunction in Scorpio right now. And I must've been thinking of that chart when I mentioned the Saturn-NN-DSC conjunction before.

He has a Scorpio stellium including Mars and Venus; she has an 8H Mars/Cancer Venus. His sun-Neptune on her 12H NN in Libra. Her Neptune on his south node.

First thing she told me about him was, "When he talks it's like he is not actually saying the words that he is saying. It's like he's talking to me from a past life."

And she is a Christian and doesn't talk about past lives, ever. But this is how it seemed to her.

But anyway, maybe that is also a reflection of Saturn here, and karma-Neptune-Juno squaring the nodal axis while the moon squares the MC-IC.

posted February 02, 2015 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
I guess it must have been Saturn even though we felt an immediate attraction i was intimidated when i met this person like i didnt grow enough to handle what this union would bring

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Oh I've been there before...

posted February 03, 2015 01:52 AM            

so what happened?

posted February 11, 2015 10:15 AM            

How are things with your guy?

posted February 11, 2015 10:18 AM            

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Saturn conjunct the Nodes can be a separative aspect. I am not as yet certain of exactly why this is the case, but I have seen it time and time again where Saturn conjunct the North or South Node in a composite chart or in synastry is present in romantic relationships that don't get off the ground properly.

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Still, my friend and her man are madly, madly in love...it's already gotten off the ground. Their future is uncertain because of outside circumstances but they've had a year of blissful romance already.

posted February 11, 2015 11:31 AM              

"Saturn to the south node is a practically unbreakable tie in this life. It shows some important lessons will be learned through the relationship and it will bring heavy obligation at some point."
http://astrologystudy.blogspot.de/2010_12_01_archive.html

Also from an old bit of research of mine

""1 - his Saturn/my NN conj.
2- his Saturn/my SN conj. "
It`s impossible to miss how often this one pops up. Both actually.

"romantic relationships that don't get off the ground PROPERLY."
I think they are a bit wrong about this one.
Saturn-Nodal axis does not necessarily seem to be about romantic attractions AT ALL, but provides a glue, ties that are hard to break. Something fated about this connection, that you can`t really escape.
Sometimes of course you HAVE to break the ties to move on, but it is very difficult with these aspects as it seems..

1) Johnny Cash - June Carter
the square

there were some limitations and it took some time till their relationship took off, but it did big time, and it was a very lastting one, and one in which they worked hard, also one which included healing of his addictions. She was giving him a structure and hold I think.

2) my parents
opposition (conjunction with SN)
it took off rather quickly; they met, fell in love and married 2 years later after being engaged quickly.
Another hard to break tie despite personal differences. But they "have a job together", my middle brother has the Down syndrome, and I think they were fated to be his parents and take good care of him, and thus needed such a strong link.

3) Robert Browning - Elizabeth Barett Bronwin
conjunction

another couple who worked together (as poets) and who facilitated strong transformations in each other, and healing for her. He actually gave her life a structure like June did for Johnny.
I guess she needed that bond to him to follow her own life path.
And yes they faced obstacles before in the person of her strict father, but got married within a year after their meeting (well,a ctually after their exchange of letters started).

(since I put the stress on properly I can live with having it AGAIN (now) in composite

4) Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh
conjunction
fell in love despite being married. Got married to each other within 2 years, and despite their divorce 20 years later, both seemed to have loved each other until the very end.
I found these quotes:
"She would go to her grave still loving Olivier, telling writer Radie Harris shortly before her death that she'd 'rather have lived a short life with Larry than face a long life without him"
and
" In 1986, a visitor to his home found the 80-year-old Olivier sitting alone, watching Leigh in an old film on television. 'This, this was love,' he said, in tears. 'This was the real thing.'"
For a time he seemed to have been able to stabilize her, but in the end her manic depressions and bipolarity just was too much for both of them I guess.

5) Richard Burton - Elizabeth Taylor
opposition
in this case it is her Saturn, so if at all, it would probably have been her, being able to give him at least some structure, if it had not been for her own personality I guess.
Again, a couple that though divorced (twice) could somehow not break the tie to each other. In a recent Interview Taylor even said that, if Burton was still alive, she would instantly marry him again.

Their other nodal aspects were pretty volatile, too,with the squrae to Lilith and conjunct to Uranus.

6) Tom Hanks - Rita Wilson
conjunction
Theirs has been a very long lasting marriage until today, too.

7) Diego Rivera - Frida Kahlo
conjunction
He was SAturn, and in the beginning he DID give her some structure. But theirs also was a very volatile relationship, full of passion, jealousy, betrayal and infedelities. Yet they were practically unable to get away from each other, despite several affairs. He was there with her even in the hour of her death. They had married within one year of meeting each other - so not that much delay, and the relationship definitely got off the ground properly, though it had many ups and downs.

Interestingly, in the short term affairs and relationship that were not "marriage-like" like of:

Miller - Nin
Rodin - Claudel
Cantat - Trintigant
Satie - Valadon
Rudolf - Vetsera

there was not ONE Saturn-Node aspect!
The three shortest had the Neptune-Node aspect, though."

posted February 11, 2015 07:34 PM            

Unfortunately I can't find any examples there with composite Saturn aspecting composite nodes.