posted February 10, 2015 06:40 AM            

I think everyone has a customized house profile in relationships, mostly based on their chart geometry and rulers. I'm curious how much real-life profiles fit the classical primary love house scenario: 5th, 7th, 8th. I'm a firm believer in ruler domination lol and secondary houses (a great concept crystallized by Lotis White)

The reverse is also interesting to note down: houses that don't do much for you, when touched in a relationship. I can tell you even without doing the analysis for my chart, 7th house overlays have a friendship/other partnership vibe for me, my 7th house is not a romantic direct overlay for me. The rulers however are (I have two, and it is indeed hard to distinguish in my case, since they are the Sun and the Moon) so an overlay in a house in order to aspect these rulers in the proper manner (based on my geometry) is probably a clue to my preferred house overlays.

I'll be back with my analysis.

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posted February 10, 2015 08:18 AM            

Followed by 2nd house overlays, usually in the Cappy-part.

4th and 9th house overlays also happen, usually in addition to the first 2`s, along with 3rd house.

But I respond rather to houserulers (of relationship houses) than the relationship houses themselves.

Ruler of 7th house in Sagittarius in 1st house conjunct Sun.

Ruler of 5th house in Capricorn in 1st house.

Ruler of 8th house in Aquarius in 2nd house. Saturn in 8th house itself, once again tilts the whole to the Capricorn/Saturn theme.

posted February 10, 2015 08:24 AM            

7th house in Virgo/Libra, with Saturn and Pluto (Virgo, Libra)
7th ruler in Sagittarius in 9th
int. 7th ruler in Capricorn in 11th

5th house in Cancer,
5th house ruler in Sagittarius in 10th

8th house in Scorpio, with Uranus
8th house ruler in Libra and 7th

secondary 5th house is the 4th (Gemini)
secondary 7th is the 6th (Leo) with Mars-Jupiter-in there
secondary 8th is the primary 8th (Scorpio, with Uranus in there)

He had a longterm relationship with a girl who has Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter in Aquarius, Jupiter conjunct Venus and Mercury, and a Mars in Sagittarius.

posted February 10, 2015 08:38 AM            

With my ex, my moon fell in his 7th and his moon in my 8th. My north node fell in his 5th, but I don't take that very seriously.

Clearly, I attract quite intense/deep relationships which always end in devastating separation. It's probably my Scorpio ascendant.

posted February 10, 2015 11:45 AM            

Surprisingly, in my most recent relationship AND my most stimulating, most of his planets activate my 10th & 9th house with Pluto & NN in Scorpio on my DSC EXACT so that pluto theme is still there with a little eratic unpredictability with his uranus in my 8th house to keep my libra moon (5th house) square uranus (8th house) satisfied.

posted February 10, 2015 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For me - hands down - 1st house overlays.

Followed by 2nd house overlays, usually in the Cappy-part.

4th and 9th house overlays also happen, usually in addition to the first 2`s, along with 3rd house.

But I respond rather to houserulers (of relationship houses) than the relationship houses themselves.

Ruler of 7th house in Sagittarius in 1st house conjunct Sun.

Ruler of 5th house in Capricorn in 1st house.

Ruler of 8th house in Aquarius in 2nd house. Saturn in 8th house itself, once again tilts the whole to the Capricorn/Saturn theme.

Secondary 7th house is the 3rd house (Aqua/Pisces)
Secondary 5th house is the 2nd house (Capricorn)
secondary 8th house is the 4th house (Aries)

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Ceri, it is interesting that your IC connects to your 1st house and, indirectly, your 8th, both houses ruled by Mars.

posted February 10, 2015 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
For some reason, my significant relationships have ALWAYS involved their moons in my 7th or 8th house.

With my ex, my moon fell in his 7th and his moon in my 8th. My north node fell in his 5th, but I don't take that very seriously.

Clearly, I attract quite intense/deep relationships which always end in devastating separation. It's probably my Scorpio ascendant.

Exhibit A: This is a Synastry chart of me and my "friend", as you can see we both activate each other's 7th/8th houses. My moon activates his 5th, but that doesn't seem to be a reoccurring factor in the relationships between me and others - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002037.html

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I can see that your Sun is there, almost on the 8th cusp, so it makes sense for the other's Moon to "look" for it What about other houses, have you noticed a pattern?

posted February 10, 2015 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
My "house overlay attraction" factor is pretty sporadic. One guy's romantic house overlays weren't even activated.. I'm very Plutonian & Saturian so I usually attract very intense partners so of course the 8th house is a biggie.

Surprisingly, in my most recent relationship AND my most stimulating, most of his planets activate my 10th & 9th house with Pluto & NN in Scorpio on my DSC EXACT so that pluto theme is still there with a little eratic unpredictability with his uranus in my 8th house to keep my libra moon (5th house) square uranus (8th house) satisfied.

I would prefer my 7th, 5th, & 9th house be activated in synastry. 5th & 7th for obvious reasons.. The 9th because I find ppl who activate this house brings a new perspective of life to my own & with Saturn in my 9th & touching all of my personal planets and ASC, i need this philosophical, intellectual vibe to stay interested. I don't need my 8th house activated.. It just intensifies my Scorpio 6th house stellium opposite ASC & conjunct pluto. Whew!

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Can you post your natal chart?

posted February 10, 2015 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, it is interesting that your IC connects to your 1st house and, indirectly, your 8th, both houses ruled by Mars.

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Yes.

BTW I think so called unromantic houses can become quite romantic through rulership.

posted February 10, 2015 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes.

BTW I think so called unromantic houses can become quite romantic through rulership.

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Exactly, that's what I'm trying to determine, I think secondary, personalized houses or the houses where the romantic rulers are placed play an equally important role.

Of course, in your case, the 1st house is generally a potentially very romantic house, being such a close connection with a lot of potential mutual appreciation and stimulation. In fact, I think all cardinal houses may play a very important role in relationships.

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posted February 10, 2015 12:04 PM            

Composite 5th, 7th, 9th

posted February 10, 2015 01:18 PM            

Continuous good conversations over time (the Saturn part) is usually what gets me interested. And with Aquarius on the cusp, I've noticed my partners/crushes are often someone I didn't expect to fall for. They really do start out as just a friend at first. Like... I have my type, especially physically, but like with my partner now, while I initially was into someone 100% like my 5th and 7th house, the person I grew a real bond with (and real intimacy) was someone else. And they turned out to be my real match, not the guy who looked the part, if that makes any sense. The other guy I lost interested in quickly - we just had zero in common.

And this brings me to my other important relationship house: the 11th. With an Aqua 5th house, this is my extended 5th anyway, and it's just so important to me. Everyone I can think of (except for one) was a friend, in my social circle (even just as a friend of a friend, y'know), I met them through a hobby or course or online. Like-minded, similar interests, very helpful & humanitarian, accepting of others (the 'love received' part of the 11th house) interested in social justice and general fairness for the club/group/etc.

So I really believe my 5th house shows what I need to grow feelings for someone.

It's probably not a coincidence, but I've also noticed that the signs my romance house rulers are in (Capricorn, Virgo, and the cusps are in Sagittarius and Leo) are also strong in their charts.

I know you didn't ask this, it's offtopic, but another thing I noticed was that the signs on my 3 romance cusps (Aquarius, Aries and Taurus) also feature in my dad's chart - they say you choose partners similar to a parent and my dad is a Taurus with Aquarius Rising and Mars tightly conjunct his Ascendant.

And nearly all of my close female friends have been Martian (my 7th house) or with strong Scorpio/Pluto (Mars as the traditional ruler?), which matches my mother. She's an Aries with a whole Aries stellium in her 12th house (those girlfriends often have Pisces placements, too), Sun conjunct Jupiter (Saggie, too) and then Moon and Mars conjunct in Scorpio. (Which also disposits her Aries stellium.)

I relate to my 8th house pattern, too: ruler in the 12th, extended house being the 2nd. Haven't had much overlay to my 12th, but they always had Pisces placements, Neptune in harsh aspect to a personal planet or in the 12th house, on an angle, etc. The idea of sharing everything with my partner and having mutual compassion & understanding for past mistakes is important to me. I don't want a partner who wants me to be perfect (even with Virgo there)! I've been hard on myself all my life.
Then the 2nd house is definitely romantic for me - boosting someone's self esteem and also pushing them to find their self worth, be truly confident with who they are (the cusp is Scorpio, so these partners do want me to dig deep into myself and my psyche). I need lots of touching, too, it's reassuring.

My 7th house pattern is trickier: while I love the 11th house (where the ruler is) and 12th (7th house ruler conjunct ruler of the 12th, and it's near the cusp anyway), the extended 1st house doesn't always do it for me. It's Libra and it will square a lot of my planets, which I have natally to my Ascendant. If there's any type of people I get into open conflicts with, with everyone knowing we don't get along, they always have the negative traits of Libra (and at least one Libra planet to boot). When I have a fight with my partner, his Libra Mars starts grating on me a lot and has caused me to have a meltdown (as a frigging Capricorn Moon conjunct Saturn!) a couple of times. But at the same time, Libra people have also made some of the best work partners for me (the other side of the 7th house). Aries too. I think I experience extremes with my 7th house & extension - when it's good, it's really good, but when it's bad, it's really bad.

posted February 10, 2015 01:55 PM            

1.

his Mars in my 1st, on ASC
Moon/Venus in 2nd
Sun/Mercury in 3rd - my secondary 5th
Saturn in 4th
Pluto in 8th - generational
Uranus in 8th
Jupiter Neptune on my Neptune (almost 11th cusp) - generational

2.
Sun Moon Venus Mercury 1st
Jupiter in 2nd, on mine
Saturn on DSC, on mine
Mars Neptune in 11th

3.
Sun Mercury in 12th
Moon in 1st
Saturn on IC
Mars on MC
Venus Jupiter Neptune in 10th

4. didn't get off the ground
Moon in 12th
Jupiter in 2nd
Mars in 6th
Saturn in 7th
Venus in 8th
Sun on MC
Mercury Uranus in 9th

5.
Saturn in 1st
Moon Jupiter 2nd
Mercury Venus 4th
Sun in 5th
Mars Uranus Pluto on Venus, 8th cusp, so 7th and 8th
Neptune on MC

6.
Venus Mercury Jupiter in 1st
Sun in 2nd
Mars in 4th and 5th, on cusp
Saturn 5th and 6th on cusp
Moon on MC

Important lifelong friendships

1.
Jupiter in 2nd on mine
Moon in 3rd, sec 5th
Saturn on DSC on mine
Venus in 7th
Sun Mars Mercury Pluto in the 8th

2.
Mars in 12th
Saturn in 3rd
everything else in my 8th house

3.
Sun Moon on ASC Mercury Venus in my 1st
Jupiter Saturn etc on mine
Mars in 11th

4.
Sun on ASC Mercury Venus in 1st, on 2nd cusp
Saturn on 3rd cusp
Mars in 9th
everything else in the 8th

5.
Jupiter in 3rd on my Chiron
Moon/Mars in 4th
Sun Mercury Saturn in 7th
Venus Pluto in the 8th

6.
Moon in 1st
Saturn in 4th
Venus Jupiter in 9th
everything else in the 8th, with Mars on cusp, so in 7th too

7.
Jupiter in 1st
Mars in 3rd
Saturn in 6th
Sun Mercury Moon in 7th
Venus Pluto in the 8th

8.
Mars Mercury Moon in 1st, moon in 2nd too
Sun Jupiter in 2nd
Venus in 3rd
generational on mine

9.
Sun in 12th on ASC Mercury Venus in 1st
Moon Uranus in 9th
Mars in 11th
generational on mine

New important friendships
1.
Mars in 2nd
Jupiter in 4th
Moon in the 8th
Venus Pluto in the 9th
Sun Mercury on 11th cusp
Uranus Saturn Neptune in 12th

2.
Sun Uranus Neptune in 12th
Venus Saturn in 1st
Jupiter in 7th
Moon in 9th
Mercury in 11th

3.
Moon in 3rd
Mars in 5th
Sun Venus on DSC Mercury Jupiter in the 7th
Saturn in the 8th
Uranus on MC

Clearly for romance, my love houses involve

1st (sometimes 12th)
2nd - I suppose this is in connection with my Taurus IC and my focal Jupiter/Juno stellium
4th - in connection to my Cancer DSC, and there is a connection here between 7th - 4th - 2nd

something on MC
sometimes 3rd, 5th and 11th

For friendships, in addition to the above, which are ALSO present, there is a predilection for
7th and 8th
sometimes 9th, which I suppose must be connected to my Sag NN and my 11th house: people being on the same path or guiding your path.

The Scorpio MC (or IC) presence in romance (and friendships) is interesting, I suppose it must be connected to my Cap ASC and the fact that I have a 6 planet-presence in the 8th. Or is it connected to my IC, as my secondary DSC?

However, I haven't had many romantic interests with DIRECT presence in my 8th, apart from the generational Pluto (very strong in fact, perhaps enough, considering it touches my Mars Mercury Pluto stellium; but I have many friends with direct presence in my 7th and 8th

So this MC presence must be a hot spot because it combines the 8th house energy with my DSC energy.

EDIT: of course, something on my MC/IC sits right on my natal Sun/Moon/angles/NN geometry

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posted February 10, 2015 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
1st, 2nd, 8th and 12th house are my natal love houses...

Composite 5th, 7th, 9th

My Pluto sits on my AC conjunct Venus(my 1st/8th ruler)
Pluto(8th house ruler)is exact sextile Neptune(12th house ruler)
Neptune(3rd house)conjuncts Sun/Merc(2nd house)
2nd house is in Scorp tying it to my AC/Pluto/Venus and the 8th house
2nd house holds my Sun/Merc/Uranus/NN

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So your 8th is in Taurus? It seems to me your predilection is towards 8th house-type/Pluto relationships.

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posted February 10, 2015 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Meissieri, hi Is your NN in the 5th or Leo? How about the direct presence in the 7th? I take it happens mostly with friends and enemies?

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Hi :wave:

Yes, my NN is in the 5th actually! Did you remember or a guess?
So maybe the people I fall for are also important to my growth as a person and will teach me where to go in life. (Which is totally emotional detachment)

If you mean overlays to my 7th (and extended 7th), yes, I think it happens more to friends and the open enemies/people I openly fight with.

Funniest thing... well, not really for me, but men with planets in Aries tend to just not feel the same way. Aside from one Mars in Aries boyfriend, it was usually unrequited. But with females, things go great. Really weird. I have it with Aquarius people too, to a lesser extend, but again it's weird. Not with Taurus though.

posted February 10, 2015 03:42 PM            

seems we have similiar preferences in terms of houses.

I do think that if analyzing the relationship house pattern (overlays, rulerships, planet therein), we need to have an eye on the other personal planets as well, how it all fits together.

posted February 10, 2015 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Hi :wave:

Yes, my NN is in the 5th actually! Did you remember or a guess?
So maybe the people I fall for are also important to my growth as a person and will teach me where to go in life. (Which is totally emotional detachment)

If you mean overlays to my 7th (and extended 7th), yes, I think it happens more to friends and the open enemies/people I openly fight with.

Funniest thing... well, not really for me, but men with planets in Aries tend to just not feel the same way. Aside from one Mars in Aries boyfriend, it was usually unrequited. But with females, things go great. Really weird. I have it with Aquarius people too, to a lesser extend, but again it's weird. Not with Taurus though.

Since you have two signs ruling your 7th, do you prefer one of them?

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I'm gonna brag and say it was a guess I figured your 5th house emphasis in relationships and the creative side of your romantic connections must have something to do with your growth, yes, your NN. Very very nice!

7th house direct overlays don't do it for me when it comes to romance. But both the Moon and the Sun have to be majorly aspected for romance to happen lol. However, direct 7th overlays are involved in great friendships and partnerships. I think I'm more attracted to Cancer suns however, as a romantic possibility. At the same time, my romantic partners have to have a Leo or 5th side to them, but not the Sun from what I've noticed. I wonder if a Leo moon in the 7th ruling 7th can actually accept a Leo Sun...I mean, how much royalty can we have in one house? One Queen is enough

posted February 10, 2015 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LEeloo,

seems we have similiar preferences in terms of houses.

I do think that if analyzing the relationship house pattern (overlays, rulerships, planet therein), we need to have an eye on the other personal planets as well, how it all fits together.

For me personally I have just so much going on in my 1st house, with Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, NN in 1st house and Mars on the ASC, and actually two distinct areas with Sun, Mercury, Venus spanning from 25 SAg to 6 Cap, and with Mars, ASC, Neptune, NN spanning from 5-10 Sag, plus my 5th house ruler and 7th house ruler being part of these planets, it is probably not really surprsing I love these overlays, especially if there are conjunctions. Conjunctions are not a problem for me, as my Sun and Mercury have no challenging aspects, Mars-Neptune-NN have a square to Jupiter, but that is more overidealistic and indulgent than downright difficult. lol
Venus has a square to Pluto though, but most of all I experience the intensity as, well intense, but in a kathartic and fulfilling way for some reason. I am not sure why this is so, but I love the Venus-Pluto-square.

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Who wouldn't? it's funny however that you feel no need to complete it with other cardinal placements coming from the other, or do you?

posted February 10, 2015 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So your 8th is in Taurus? It seems to me your predilection is towards 8th house-type/Pluto relationships.

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posted February 10, 2015 04:51 PM            

Love interests

1. (Most important)
Venus, Pluto in 1st
Mars, Uranus, Sun in 2nd
Mercury, Neptune in 3rd
Jupiter in 4th
Saturn in 10th
Moon in 11th

2. (Not physically attracted to him any more but love him very much)
Jupiter, Neptune in 2nd
Saturn in 4th
Moon in 6th
Mars in 9th
Venus, Uranus in 11th
Mercury, Sun, Pluto in 12th

Friends

1.
Saturn in 1st
Neptune in 2nd
Moon in 5th
Jupiter in 7th
Sun, Mercury in 8th
Venus, Mars in 9th
Uranus in 10th
Pluto in 11th

posted February 10, 2015 05:20 PM            

But I seem to like a personal point hovering right between my 10C and 11C. Almost exactly on the cusp, but occasionally 3º in either direction. Essentially, 8º-14º CAN.

I'm also a big fan of SAG 10º-25º. Always thought it was something to do with my NEP, except that it's often times 10º-15º. That's right around my IC, inching into the 4H. Riding the cusp again, as it were.

posted February 10, 2015 05:31 PM            

I honestly forget that my husband's MARS is there. But it's also at 26º PIS, which is 2º off of my VENUS' Huber degree, of 28º PIS. I'm pretty sure that has more to do with it than anything relating to my DSC or 7H.

Now, my 7R does seem to be a hotspot. My 4H NEP at 20º SAG. Honestly anything in mid-to-late SAG is either drawn to me, or me to it, like a magnet.

Another weird thing I can't quite grasp. My 6H can have romantic leanings, but is assuredly a friendship house. God, is this where I can't hide how much of a workaholic I am?

posted February 10, 2015 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Can you post your natal chart?

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