posted May 27, 2018 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
It is pretty powerful when in same signs too. Last guy I knew with his venus in the same sign as my mars we got jiggy with it. But we also had a venus trine uranus. I blame that on venus trine uranus. A guy me and my bestfriend in highschool liked, he picked her and I looked at their charts and she had mars int e same sign of his venus in gemini it was not conjunct it was just in the same sign and they really liked eachother. So yes the same sign still works from what I have observed.

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posted May 27, 2018 08:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Well from what I've seen - when the woman is Venus she can feel harassed by Mars. Mars seems too macho in a way that can become upsetting.

When the man is Venus - it's actually better - because women on average, are not as aggressive as men. So a "Mars"-woman will be more toned down than her male counterpart. It's a more balanced interaction overall and works out better.

I've almost never seen the conjunction work in a relationship when the man is Mars. The woman sees him as violent and eventually leaves him :/

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posted May 27, 2018 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Agree with everything said above. This is a purely sexual aspect. Without other combinations it will lead to conflict later.

When the Goddess of Love meets the God of War - first they make love, then they make war. Always.

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I don't agree with that. Not purely sexual at all. I think some of you forget that Venus and Mars are BOTH the Gods of Love and War. Venus is the GODDESS of Love and War. Mars is the GOD of Love and War. Venus partakes in Love and War through beautification, gentrified love, art and skill, passivity, jealousy, vengefulness, etc. Mars partakes in Love and War through aggression, ambition, primal love (lust), physical prowess and skill, confrontations, etc.

These two are a match for a good reason. They both love to partake in Love and War, albeit with different tactics to come out victorious. In mythology, Venus is just as cruel and tactical as Mars and Mars is just as loving and devoted as Venus. To say this aspect is purely sexual is one dimensional because it ignores the fact that they are NOT in fact contrasting planets, rather they are comparative planets. Why do you think Venus and Mars both rule over two different signs? These planets are too full of tricks and power plays to be in a natural opposition of only two signs. A Venus needs her Mars to guide into battle and a Mars needs his Venus to succeed in overthrowing everyone in the battle.

Instead of being purely sexual, this conjunction is purely tactical.

When Venus conjuncts Mars, Venus NEEDS Mars. Mars NEEDS Venus. She can help me solve my Venusian issues in battle, he thinks. He can help me solve my Martian issues in battle, she thinks. Venus helps Mars be more Venusian about confronting their battles (whether those battles be sexual, of love, or of money and business) and Mars helps Venus to be more Martian about confronting their battles. Together, they are a powerful duo indeed. You can't win a war if you're purely Venusian or purely Martian. You need one to supplement the other and that is all this conjunction is saying.

Conflict will only arise if Venus is "too Venusian" and refuses to be helped by a grunt like Mars or if Mars is "too Martian" and refuses to be helped by the shrewd Venus. You have to remember that these are NOT contrasting planets. They are too similar to be so. Venus and Mars are already so similar so when the conjunction of being in the same sign comes, you two have to accept this similarity even more. That frustrates people sometimes.

posted May 27, 2018 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Well from what I've seen - when the woman is Venus she can feel harassed by Mars. Mars seems too macho in a way that can become upsetting.

When the man is Venus - it's actually better - because women on average, are not as aggressive as men. So a "Mars"-woman will be more toned down than her male counterpart. It's a more balanced interaction overall and works out better.

I've almost never seen the conjunction work in a relationship when the man is Mars. The woman sees him as violent and eventually leaves him :/

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posted May 27, 2018 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
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Hmmmm....I have Venus/Pluto conjunct and Mars/Uranus trine.
I need the intensity when it comes to love and adore the hard aspects!!

His Venus is in his 8th house and he has a 7th house scorpio Mars on my NN....more Pluto action there.

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I have venus conjunct mars and I develop a lot more intense feelings for people who trine and sextile that with their own venus and mars or quintile that with their own venus and mars.

The soft aspects create more intense feelings for me and a lot stronger attraction, it flows, regarding venus/mars double whammys conjunct my venus.

Now in question to Pluto aspect my venus and mars, I prefer hard aspects so if a generational planet is involved I prefer hard aspects to my venus and mars. I think this is because I have natally venus conjunct mars sextile Pluto and trine Neptune so I need the hard aspects from pluto/neptune to my venus/mars to feel a difference.

posted May 27, 2018 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
some of that stuff is just comes from double standard/societal stuff. It matters in certain contexts, but not in others. Like a woman's mars conjunct a man's venus might not be as ideal if he comes from a culture that says women shouldn't "want it". Then he might be weirded out by it. Generally speaking though I'd assume it's good for the woman's mars to be conjunct a man's venus because in my mind this means that a man will be more emotionally involved in the act, rather than just physically (mars). That's just my assumption though. The longest marriages I personally know happen to be those where the woman is mars conj/trine/sextile the man's venus.

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posted May 27, 2018 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I have heard and experienced that this aspect is better when Venus conjuncts Mars in their respective nature of Venus being the woman and Mars being the man. However, I have also experienced the opposite way and it is not bad at all either. Perhaps, this is because my (I'm a female) Mars is in Pisces so my conjunction would be with males who have Venus exalted in Pisces, I have never really felt any type of malice or cruel intent from myself or from them. Whether I am the Venus or I am the Mars.

But, then again, My natal Venus and Mars are both on angular points. Venus is opposite descendant in 6th house, Mars is conjunct MC in 10th house. My Venus is also conj Pluto, Vesta, and Chiron. I never feel intimidated by people whose Venus or Mars conjuncts my Venus or Mars, I actually find it very thrilling and nice. They make me feel more ambitious and dreamy and wanted. Like we can be friends and lovers at the same time. As a Capricorn sun, that makes me happy. I love this type of conjunction, it is one of my favorites of synastry so far. I really look up to and admire people who are conjunct my Venus or Mars from their Venus or Mars. I feel like I can help them and they can help me in business or in love.

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Why is it better? Just because Mars is a "male" planet? So naturally one would prefer for the Mars to be a male? Doesn't the sign of the Mars count? Mine is in Gemini doesn't that make a difference? If the Mars is in a fire sign I could see why maybe someone would assume that the Mars person could possibly harass the Venus person. But being aggressive and harassment are two different things.

posted May 27, 2018 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I didn't necessarily say it was better, I was just saying that in my personal experience it was better and also I have heard from others that it is better this way also. But, as I also stated, I have had it both ways, (with me as the Venus or me as the Mars), and neither way was aggressive or cruel at all. But then again, that might also be because I have Venus and Mars on angular houses so no matter whether I am the Venus or the Mars, it would be very soothing for me. I'm not sure and I don't know, I was just giving my opinion from personal experience.

When I was Venus and he was Mars, I just felt very content and dreamy, like a stereotypical cinderella tale. When I was Mars and he is Venus I still felt content and dreamy around them but it was more in a way that was me having to pamper the Venus' rather than me feeling pampered as the Venus. As someone who is Venusian by nature, I like being taken care of so I personally like the feeling of my Venus conjunct their Mars. We both need each other but he pampers me in his needs. It's nice.

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I have Venus in the 8th house and my Midheaven is in Taurus. I think it would be worse for me If I were the Venus. It's bad when someones Pluto makes hard aspects to my Venus. It really triggers something. I have Mars in the 10th house I don't really mind being the one who does the pampering it's not that big of a deal to me. Perhaps it's because I'm a Taurus and we like to make people feel good. I think if I were the Venus person I would probably be obsessed with and possessive of the Mars person.

posted May 27, 2018 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Maybe. I think that because my Venus is opposite my ASC I might be feeling that "dreamlover" feeling more than others when a man's Mars conjuncts my Venus, because then his Mars will also be conjunct my 7th house. And my Mars is in Pisces (very dreamy and delusional) so if a man's Venus conjunct that too I would understandably see very little faults. I'm surprised thought that you as Taurus don't like to be pampered by others. All the Taurus I know love it when people take care of them, they don't really like taking care of other people, it p*sses them off a lot.

If I remember correctly, Eros/Cupid is Venus (Aphrodite) and Mars (Ares) son. Eros/Cupid is symbolized as the God of Desire which is technically something different altogether. Eros/Cupid met and fell in love with Psyche (Goddess of the Soul) and they created a child by the name Hedone, who is "Pleasure". Desire and Soul come together to make Pleasure, I hope that makes sense.

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